sean.clarke Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 Don't want to feed the "go abroad instead" brigade, but just read: "Cornwall Council have introduced a curfew parking for campers and motorhomes right across the county, with a ban on motorhomes and campervans, from 11 to 8 am with a fixed penalty fine £70" http://www.tmcto.org/index.php/motorhome-news/item/32-cornwall-camper-van-curfew-on-coastal-car-parks Just a warning to make sure others are aware, £70 is a bit steep for nothing more than parking.... Just cross over to Devon where you might be more welcome... they still do cream teas and pasties B-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JudgeMental Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 Ha ha ha...It dont bother me as have given up on the UK long ago, so much for living in a democracy...God knows what impression foreign visitors get!lol Vote with your feet! :-D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
euroserv Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 Are there no campsites in Cornwall? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lennyhb Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 And they wonder why we don't bother to spend our money in UK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracker Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 I lived in Cornwall for over twenty years and it always has been anti Motorhomes. Considering the nature of the county it is perhaps unsurprising but the CCC policy was never really in favour of caravans or tents anyway or any form of non guest house or hotel holidays, but it reluctantly found itself having to cope with the increasing demand for camp sites. Perhaps many of the councilors were/are guest house owners and retailers who were swayed by rumours of tight fisted Motorhomers coming to Cornwall laden with two weeks supplies who would park for free, leave piles of rubbish and spend as little as possible whilst holidaying in their rather expensive 'Dormobiles'. Anyway - being an amiable sort of guy I reckon it's best to let them have it their way and not go there! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hallii Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 I stopped going there when I bought a motorhome anyway, the roads are to narrow! Just across the water the local communes invite me to stay with nice cheap aires, better food, wider roads and friendlier natives. "Hemorrhoids" H Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bolly1965 Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 I don't know where this information comes from but I was just at Tintagel and all 3 main car parks allow overnighting for about £3.50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 OK lets cut the bull and put this into perspective. Cornwall has proboly got more pitchs per sq mile than any other county, so there is no shortage of places to camp, they have also got a big problem with people overnighting in car parks, and we're not just talking motorhomes and campervans, but also plain vans and cars, any parking that is not 'policed' is swamped. Now some of these people are perfectly nice to know, but here's a little test, take a vehicle with a windsurfer on top to Fistral car park and see how long before the tyres are slashed. So what are we all going to do? Go to France? This year was the first for some time that I've holidayed in france and I noticed that in popular spots there are notices forbidding overnighting in car parks, now it's true they have an aires system but judging by what i saw in june of the 'overcrowding' in popular spots I certainly wouldn't want to be there this month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easyliving Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 This is the link to the Cornwall County Council website so you can get it straight from the horses mouth so to speak: http://www.cornwall.gov.uk/default.aspx?page=33744 I think the telling bit is in the first paragraph - 'encourage visitors to use the many high quality motorhome and camp sites throughout Cornwall'. So this is mostly a ploy to make motorhomers use camp sites, some of them no doubt owned by councillors or their friends / family. What a difference to neighbouring Torridge Council in Devon where they have seen the light and started allowing overnight parking for motorhomes in car parks - http://www.torridge.gov.uk/index.aspx?articleid=8985 We are Devon bound the second half of next month and will make some use of the new facilities. Will we venture further west to friendly Cornwall - what do you think? Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawcara Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 Well if you venture into Plymouth, use the carpark at the George (near the airport on the A386) or Milehouse (Plymouth Argyle carpark) They are both park and ride sites and parking is free. People seem to stay overnight and you do not have to use the bus to park there. Neither have height barriers but the park and ride at Plympton does, so don't bother with it. :-D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sean.clarke Posted August 21, 2013 Author Share Posted August 21, 2013 You miss my point, this is not about wild camping etc. if I understand the article it is the fact that campervans parked between certain hours, watching the sunset with a cuppa etc. that will lead you into trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracker Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 sean.clarke - 2013-08-21 8:51 PM You miss my point, this is not about wild camping etc. if I understand the article it is the fact that campervans parked between certain hours, watching the sunset with a cuppa etc. that will lead you into trouble. I think you will find that the sun sets well before 11.00 pm even in the far west of Cornwall even in midsummer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sean.clarke Posted August 21, 2013 Author Share Posted August 21, 2013 Sunset at 21:30, but still light around 22:00ish. We've certainly been out in garden at 23:00, but my point still stands in that this is not about camping, but I take your point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longtemps Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 I openly admit that I am one of the "go abroad"brigade. England, particularly, is a dump for motorhomes. I do not even consider it seriously as a place to spend my money whilst motor homing. Anywhere but the land of my birth is my motto. If you are not spied on with cameras you are hunted down by the parking police and forever shunted into the overpriced campsites. Sod Cornwall, it may be beautiful, but my money is spent in France, every time, where I am made to feel most welcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 1footinthegrave Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 Here here pal, and those on here that in effect say these councils are justified in these draconian actions mean we will never have a united voice, and quite frankly why they have a motor home at all if all they do is go and sit in a camp site mystifies me. :-S get a bloody caravan. Years ago one of my greatest joys was to take the van to the coast and do a bit of night beach casting, not so now all these bloody petty rules the UK excels in. >:-( Vive La France, and only another two weeks to go..........................for a couple of months ;-) And the bloke who said French aires are getting crowded, we spent 48 nights from early June, with only 4 nights on sites, never had a single problem finding a spot anywhere, and not one of them a "car park" before the anti aire brigade put their two penneth in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheer lunar-see Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 just pop over to Brittany, like Cornwall, but bigger, and motorhome friendly. Me thinks Cornwall is very overated, Devons better and the Torridge area was always a favourite area for . I used to overnite on all their current Aire sites 8 or more years ago, never ever had a problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lennyhb Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 I feel embarrassed admitting it I will be camping in the UK tomorrow until Tuesday but not on a site at a Music fesival Twinwood will swinging &rocking the night away, even my kids are going not in my van own cars & tents. A couple more weeks then off to France or Germany for 3 Motorhome friendly weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahamw Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 Recently stayed in the area of St Jean de Monts in the Vendee and travelled up the coast to La Barre de Monts and passed many secluded and pretty empty beach car parks all of which had height barriers and expressly banned the parking of motorhomes. Looking further inland it was not too difficult to find a parking place but the picture painted of France is not as free and easy as some might suggest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 1footinthegrave Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 grahamw - 2013-08-22 7:43 AM Recently stayed in the area of St Jean de Monts in the Vendee and travelled up the coast to La Barre de Monts and passed many secluded and pretty empty beach car parks all of which had height barriers and expressly banned the parking of motorhomes. Looking further inland it was not too difficult to find a parking place but the picture painted of France is not as free and easy as some might suggest. Whilst that may be true in a very few instances, in our last trip in June/July we found many brand new Aires, many in some lovely spots, and to pretend France is in any way similar to the over regulated, petty minded officialdom we constantly come up against in the UK makes France as far as I'm concerned the fantastic place it is, and continues to be for so many motor home users. ;-) Not once do we ever pre-plan our day when in France, knowing with certainty we WILL find somewhere to stop for the night, that is more or less an impossibility in the UK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caroline Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 It is a shame not to go somewhere as beautiful as Cornwall or any part of the UK because you cannot park where you want to. I have a fairly large van, (my choice which is not suitable for town car parks) I regularly use the network of small sites, Holiday sites and weekend meets that are available, I also carry an electric bike (my trusty steed) which will carry my picnic all the way on to the beach or promenade, it gets me a lot more places than even a small car would, and after a day's worth of good retail therapy carries my purchases home again. My latest find is a hideaway site 20min from Alton Towers at £4 a night and would you believe it an extra £2 if you require electric. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 grahamw - 2013-08-22 7:43 AM Recently stayed in the area of St Jean de Monts in the Vendee and travelled up the coast to La Barre de Monts and passed many secluded and pretty empty beach car parks all of which had height barriers and expressly banned the parking of motorhomes. Looking further inland it was not too difficult to find a parking place but the picture painted of France is not as free and easy as some might suggest. Thats similier to what we found, in popular spots and coastal carparks, camping-cars where banned, very much the same as Cornwall, of cause the big diferance is in France there are Aires some of which are free Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gwendolyn Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 Caroline - 2013-08-22 9:50 AM It is a shame not to go somewhere as beautiful as Cornwall or any part of the UK because you cannot park where you want to. I have a fairly large van, (my choice which is not suitable for town car parks) I regularly use the network of small sites, Holiday sites and weekend meets that are available, I also carry an electric bike (my trusty steed) which will carry my picnic all the way on to the beach or promenade, it gets me a lot more places than even a small car would, and after a day's worth of good retail therapy carries my purchases home again. My latest find is a hideaway site 20min from Alton Towers at £4 a night and would you believe it an extra £2 if you require electric. Yes, quite agree. But let’s not spoil their fun eh? Half the pleasure, for some, in motorhome ownership lies in moaning about the dreadfulness of the UK, having a hissy fit, and flouncing of to France in a state of self righteous indignation. Bless! Cheers Gwen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 1footinthegrave Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 Gwendolyn - 2013-08-22 10:33 AM Caroline - 2013-08-22 9:50 AM It is a shame not to go somewhere as beautiful as Cornwall or any part of the UK because you cannot park where you want to. I have a fairly large van, (my choice which is not suitable for town car parks) I regularly use the network of small sites, Holiday sites and weekend meets that are available, I also carry an electric bike (my trusty steed) which will carry my picnic all the way on to the beach or promenade, it gets me a lot more places than even a small car would, and after a day's worth of good retail therapy carries my purchases home again. My latest find is a hideaway site 20min from Alton Towers at £4 a night and would you believe it an extra £2 if you require electric. Yes, quite agree. But let’s not spoil their fun eh? Half the pleasure, for some, in motorhome ownership lies in moaning about the dreadfulness of the UK, having a hissy fit, and flouncing of to France in a state of self righteous indignation. Bless! Cheers Gwen Gwen with respect you simply miss the point, and I can only guess that you and many others have never experienced the sheer joy of unplanned and spontaneous motor home use that France offers, some of us simply don't want to spend fruitless energy trying to find a CL in the middle of nowhere and sit in a field, but whatever turns you on. ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gwendolyn Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 1footinthegrave - 2013-08-22 10:42 AM Gwendolyn - 2013-08-22 10:33 AM Caroline - 2013-08-22 9:50 AM It is a shame not to go somewhere as beautiful as Cornwall or any part of the UK because you cannot park where you want to. I have a fairly large van, (my choice which is not suitable for town car parks) I regularly use the network of small sites, Holiday sites and weekend meets that are available, I also carry an electric bike (my trusty steed) which will carry my picnic all the way on to the beach or promenade, it gets me a lot more places than even a small car would, and after a day's worth of good retail therapy carries my purchases home again. My latest find is a hideaway site 20min from Alton Towers at £4 a night and would you believe it an extra £2 if you require electric. Yes, quite agree. But let’s not spoil their fun eh? Half the pleasure, for some, in motorhome ownership lies in moaning about the dreadfulness of the UK, having a hissy fit, and flouncing of to France in a state of self righteous indignation. Bless! Cheers Gwen Gwen with respect you simply miss the point, and I can only guess that you and many others have never experienced the sheer joy of unplanned and spontaneous motor home use that France offers, some of us simply don't want to spend fruitless energy trying to find a CL in the middle of nowhere and sit in a field, but whatever turns you on. ;-) Well, you guess wrongly. We spend 6 months a year touring in Europe and book nothing. I have never been on a CL in my life. In 63 years of camping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs T Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 We are from an older generation, in fact very old 1930's, when it was only the Vardo (Gypsy) community who had caravans and well before surfboards were even thought of when there were no Motorways and the only way to reach Cornwall was by train or bicycle. Then it was a quaint an interesting county and any visitor who talked differently was hastily avoided. Since then it has blossomed into "One of The Counties to Visit", personally we avoid it for it can be an endless toil of traffic with hoards of people looking for a dream that never emerges. Complaints against camping have little to do with strict and aggressive councils who are doing their best to accommodate all visitors. France is only different because it has space, Lets be very clear about it Cornwall was like that in the 1930s. Since then life has changed dramatically. People now travel and have a voice and consider they have a right to go wherever they please for as long as they please, unfortunately this cannot be permitted to continue. Controls have to be made and accepted. If you object all I can suggest is that you were born 70 years too late for Cornwall and other picturesque counties to be free and attractive to whosoever feels the need to do whatever they like and go wherever they like. If anyone feels that peeved about life and camping in the UK then I suggest they look ahead 70 years and consider themselves "extremely fortunate" they live now because those counties like Cornwall may well be forced to introduce border restrictions that actually prevent their countryside being invaded by hoards of humans whose only interest is to 'live a dream' Live in the real world please! Cornwall v France, be thankful you can do either and enjoy it whatever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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