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Two patients limp into two different medical clinics with the same complaint?

Both have trouble walking and appear to require a hip replacement.

 

The FIRST patient is examined within the hour, is x-rayed the same day and has

a time booked for surgery the following week.

 

The SECOND sees his family doctor after waiting 3 weeks for an appointment,

then waits 8 weeks to see a specialist, then gets an x-ray, which isn't reviewed for

another week and finally has his surgery scheduled for 6 months from then.

 

Why the different treatment for the two patients?

 

The FIRST is a Golden Retriever.

The SECOND is a Senior Citizen.

 

The next time I have a problem, I'm going to a vet!

 

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Do remember tho that the Golden Retriever's treatment will require someone to pay for it. And it could run to many thousands of £'s.

 

Now this could be an insurance company if the owner is sensible and pays the premiums or the owner may have to make the decision to have the op or have the animal put down. The cost burden can be that high.

 

I would hate to have the US system where treatment is withheld until ability to pay is established>

 

Our Retriever had to have an infected canine tooth removed and ongoing treatment because unbeknown to us the infection had got up into her jaw and the cost was over £3000.00 - Have to say the insurance company was excellent - but it did ask for pictures of her teeth before they would confirm they would cover the cost.

 

So whilst it is easy to knock the NHS (and there are aspects of its management that are truly woeful >:-( ) I would suggest that "free at the point of delivery" is something we all benefit from - even if that means a bit of a wait.

 

 

 

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CliveH - 2013-11-04 4:37 PM

 

Do remember tho that the Golden Retriever's treatment will require someone to pay for it. And it could run to many thousands of £'s.

 

 

So whilst it is easy to knock the NHS (and there are aspects of its management that are truly woeful >:-( ) I would suggest that "free at the point of delivery" is something we all benefit from - even if that means a bit of a wait.

 

 

I popped a knee cartilage about 8 years ago for the second time.

The NHS wait was 12 months. I was self employed & unable to work.

I chose to pay myself to go private as it was cheaper than the lost earnings. It was done within a month by the same Surgeon.

The cost was then ~£2000 of which the Surgeon's bill was about £900.00

I paid the hospital & the Anaesthetist but the Surgeon never sent me an invoice. I am afraid I did not remind him.

Obviously earning too much?

 

 

 

 

 

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I think the difference is someone is going to have to pay the bill directly, like the poster with the dogs toothache that someone thought it worthwhile to pay £3000 for, the alternative that is open to the dog owner is a cheap needle if they cannot afford it and that's the end of the problem and down the glue factory, I'm guessing a human being will be happy to wait given the same choice. ;-)
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Patricia - 2013-11-04 4:19 PM

 

That is not so funny or far fetched. There was a serious suggestion to use vets in rural France where they have difficulty in getting young doctors in those areas.

 

Good idea.........as they must be used to treating Frogs :D...................

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peter - 2013-11-04 5:43 PM

 

Racist alert................Racist alert...................Racist alert. (lol)

 

Its not racism Peter ;-).........................

 

 

 

Its Frogism :D..........

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1footinthegrave - 2013-11-04 5:05 PM

 

I think the difference is someone is going to have to pay the bill directly, like the poster with the dogs toothache that someone thought it worthwhile to pay £3000 for, the alternative that is open to the dog owner is a cheap needle if they cannot afford it and that's the end of the problem and down the glue factory, I'm guessing a human being will be happy to wait given the same choice. ;-)

 

Your anti dog stance causes you to lose sight of what the point was 1 foot. I never paid out £3000 - the Insurance company did. We pay circa £50 a month for the two dogs and the insurer has behaved impeccably. The other dog had a cyst some years ago that when checked had pre-cancerous cells and within days was operated on and back home recovering. Cost was circa £450.

 

Now my National Insurance contributions are a darn sight higher than the £25 a month that I pay for each dog for a commercial pet insurance. But the dogs get better and speedier treatment than we do as humans with the NHS.

 

But what I pay in NIC does sponsor those that pay nothing into the system.

 

Personally I am quite happy to continue to pay for insurance for my dogs if some of the wasters and benefits cheats would at least contribute to the NI system.

 

As contributing members of "society" - if I had to make the choice between the two - it would be the dogs every time. They give far more benefit than they take to keep, are totally loyal, have seen off at least two "toe-rags" who were up to no good and have a simple philosophy on life that I admire.

 

They examine things on the basis of "Can I eat it, or fornicate with it", and if neither option is viable, they pee on it and walk away.

 

Admirable

 

 

 

 

 

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peter - 2013-11-04 10:42 PM

 

Of course. You don't expect us to pick up dog s**t do you?.

If we all did it would take away a lot of your enjoyment on here. :D

 

I'll bet the vets get some enjoyment out of £3000 to sort out a dogs tooth ache, if that does not illustrate the madness of dog lovers I don't know what does. ;-)

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1footinthegrave - 2013-11-04 10:51 PM

 

peter - 2013-11-04 10:42 PM

 

Of course. You don't expect us to pick up dog s**t do you?.

If we all did it would take away a lot of your enjoyment on here. :D

 

I'll bet the vets get some enjoyment out of £3000 to sort out a dogs tooth ache, if that does not illustrate the madness of dog lovers I don't know what does. ;-)

Nope, it just illustrates that some people value their dogs as more than just nuisances ... unlike someone on here who would fall into the nuisance category ....

 

Oh, I'd still rather be a human being though ... have you seen WHERE vets stick the thermometer! 8-)

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i think you will find that vets training takes longer than that of a Doctor.

Therefore you should get better treatment from a VET. Perhaps we should all take out PET insurance, and get quicker treatment !! After all we are all animals deep down!!

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Well said Mel and well said PJay.

 

As for us all producing "waste" - I have my doubts that 1 Foot is able to let such go - a bit retentive I would suggest.

 

So much so that we get the overflow on here! (lol) (lol) (lol) (lol)

 

 

 

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CliveH - 2013-11-05 5:58 AM

 

Well said Mel and well said PJay.

 

As for us all producing "waste" - I have my doubts that 1 Foot is able to let such go - a bit retentive I would suggest.

 

So much so that we get the overflow on here! (lol) (lol) (lol) (lol)

 

 

 

Blimey you were up early this morning, or is it a ploy to take doggy out under the cover of darkness so he can have a crap without anyone seeing. ;-) saves all that unpleasantness of picking it up. ;-)

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Naw 1 foot - I am an early riser - and yes i do take the dogs out every day for their first walk at about 7am - best time of the day. And i am not alone - many of us are out on the Forest at that time. I find a walk that time of day sets me up - all the issues get resolved, a plan is formulated, the methodology finalised.

 

They get another shorter walk at about 4 to 5 pm. That helps me unwind.

 

And yes - when walking locally - I always pick up - and i admonish those that do not.

 

There are antisocial dog owners who do not pick up and on behalf of all those responsible dog owners - apologies. We find it as obnoxious as anyone - with the added issue for us responsible dog owners of people like you, 1 foot, unfairly tarring us all with the same brush.

 

 

 

 

 

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Clive I should be interested to know which insurance company you use as my Sheltie grew extra milk teeth and had to have them removed. I was led to believe that no insurance company covered teeth, mine certainly didn't, but I chose that one because it covers her when we are in France. I searched for a long time to find a company which would cover her for more than 30-ish days which makes me wonder how many people check the length of cover. My previous company did but then that went out of business and I had a long fight to recoup the money owed me when my previous dog died in France. Glad your tale has a happy ending.
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1footinthegrave - 2013-11-05 11:19 AM

 

CliveH - 2013-11-05 5:58 AM

 

Well said Mel and well said PJay.

 

As for us all producing "waste" - I have my doubts that 1 Foot is able to let such go - a bit retentive I would suggest.

 

So much so that we get the overflow on here! (lol) (lol) (lol) (lol)

 

Blimey you were up early this morning, or is it a ploy to take doggy out under the cover of darkness so he can have a crap without anyone seeing. ;-) saves all that unpleasantness of picking it up. ;-)

At least we can pick up all the crap, whereas it is impossible to do so with your verbal diarrhea! ;-)

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Mel B - 2013-11-05 4:32 PM

 

1footinthegrave - 2013-11-05 11:19 AM

 

CliveH - 2013-11-05 5:58 AM

 

Well said Mel and well said PJay.

 

As for us all producing "waste" - I have my doubts that 1 Foot is able to let such go - a bit retentive I would suggest.

 

So much so that we get the overflow on here! (lol) (lol) (lol) (lol)

 

Blimey you were up early this morning, or is it a ploy to take doggy out under the cover of darkness so he can have a crap without anyone seeing. ;-) saves all that unpleasantness of picking it up. ;-)

At least we can pick up all the crap, whereas it is impossible to do so with your verbal diarrhea! ;-)

 

Ha ha ha, you really don't like it do you, and everyone can bet their life you pick up after three of them, or does "hubby" whatever his name is, lend a hand now and again, or does he even get a look in with your doggy love affair, can't be much room in the bed for him either competing with three dogs in a PVC. :D

 

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1footinthegrave - 2013-11-05 5:34 PM

 

Mel B - 2013-11-05 4:32 PM

 

1footinthegrave - 2013-11-05 11:19 AM

 

CliveH - 2013-11-05 5:58 AM

 

Well said Mel and well said PJay.

 

As for us all producing "waste" - I have my doubts that 1 Foot is able to let such go - a bit retentive I would suggest.

 

So much so that we get the overflow on here! (lol) (lol) (lol) (lol)

 

Blimey you were up early this morning, or is it a ploy to take doggy out under the cover of darkness so he can have a crap without anyone seeing. ;-) saves all that unpleasantness of picking it up. ;-)

At least we can pick up all the crap, whereas it is impossible to do so with your verbal diarrhea! ;-)

 

Ha ha ha, you really don't like it do you, and everyone can bet their life you pick up after three of them, or does "hubby" whatever his name is, lend a hand now and again, or does he even get a look in with your doggy love affair, can't be much room in the bed for him either competing with three dogs in a PVC. :D

 

"3 dogs in a PVC and me"................sounds like a DVD I'd buy (lol)

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1footinthegrave - 2013-11-05 5:34 PM

 

Mel B - 2013-11-05 4:32 PM

 

1footinthegrave - 2013-11-05 11:19 AM

 

CliveH - 2013-11-05 5:58 AM

 

Well said Mel and well said PJay.

 

As for us all producing "waste" - I have my doubts that 1 Foot is able to let such go - a bit retentive I would suggest.

 

So much so that we get the overflow on here! (lol) (lol) (lol) (lol)

 

Blimey you were up early this morning, or is it a ploy to take doggy out under the cover of darkness so he can have a crap without anyone seeing. ;-) saves all that unpleasantness of picking it up. ;-)

At least we can pick up all the crap, whereas it is impossible to do so with your verbal diarrhea! ;-)

 

Ha ha ha, you really don't like it do you, and everyone can bet their life you pick up after three of them, or does "hubby" whatever his name is, lend a hand now and again, or does he even get a look in with your doggy love affair, can't be much room in the bed for him either competing with three dogs in a PVC. :D

 

Uncalled for 1 foot.

 

Uncalled for

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Patricia - 2013-11-05 4:25 PM

 

Clive I should be interested to know which insurance company you use as my Sheltie grew extra milk teeth and had to have them removed. I was led to believe that no insurance company covered teeth, mine certainly didn't, but I chose that one because it covers her when we are in France. I searched for a long time to find a company which would cover her for more than 30-ish days which makes me wonder how many people check the length of cover. My previous company did but then that went out of business and I had a long fight to recoup the money owed me when my previous dog died in France. Glad your tale has a happy ending.

 

I have PM'd you Patricia.

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CliveH - 2013-11-05 6:05 PM

 

1footinthegrave - 2013-11-05 5:34 PM

 

Mel B - 2013-11-05 4:32 PM

 

1footinthegrave - 2013-11-05 11:19 AM

 

CliveH - 2013-11-05 5:58 AM

 

Well said Mel and well said PJay.

 

As for us all producing "waste" - I have my doubts that 1 Foot is able to let such go - a bit retentive I would suggest.

 

So much so that we get the overflow on here! (lol) (lol) (lol) (lol)

 

Blimey you were up early this morning, or is it a ploy to take doggy out under the cover of darkness so he can have a crap without anyone seeing. ;-) saves all that unpleasantness of picking it up. ;-)

At least we can pick up all the crap, whereas it is impossible to do so with your verbal diarrhea! ;-)

 

Ha ha ha, you really don't like it do you, and everyone can bet their life you pick up after three of them, or does "hubby" whatever his name is, lend a hand now and again, or does he even get a look in with your doggy love affair, can't be much room in the bed for him either competing with three dogs in a PVC. :D

 

Uncalled for 1 foot.

 

Uncalled for

 

l'm not sure what's uncalled for, perhaps the death just this afternoon of a 4 year old little girl by the family pet dog, so my utter disdain of these animals continues, and the nutters who attach so much "love" to them, but are utterly blind to the harm they do, bloody tragic, and so we have yet another death and lives scarred forever by mans best friend, with friends like that who needs enemies eh.

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Certainly another tragedy.

 

No doubt the full story will come out in the next day or so.

 

The issue is often these "Status Dogs" that a certain type of person seems to think they need to make up for a small peni$.

 

When you think of the number of family pet dogs that do nothing but show absolute affection and loyalty to their family such that they protect the children - then just how unusual these tragic events are becomes clear.

 

The breeding of "Status Dogs" - which sadly seems to be due to the mindset of a few neanderthal types MUST be controlled.

 

It is like Picking Up - responsible owners do it - responsible owners want a dog - not a penis extension.

 

If as is reported it was a new dog to the family - I wonder if it came from a reputable source such as RSPCA or Dog Trust that would have checked that the dog was suitable to be homed with young children.

 

 

 

 

 

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