Don Madge Posted August 22, 2006 Share Posted August 22, 2006 From September's MMM. Page 49. On behalf of of the police forces across the UK, Lancashire Constabulary Stolen Vehicle Squad is compiling a list of stolen motorcaravans, which it is hoped will assist in their recovery and identification. If you have had a motorcaravan stolen in the last five years or you are unfortunate to have one stolen in the future you can e-mail at stolenmotorcaravans@lancashire.pnn.police.uk or by post to Motorcaravan Index. Lancashire Constabulary, Stolen Vehicle Squad, PO Box 77 Preston PR4 5SB Full details of the van, including Registration Mark, Make and full model conversion, owner's name and contact telephone numbers. Not forgetting any unusual or distinguishing features. Don Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mel B Posted August 22, 2006 Share Posted August 22, 2006 Not wishing to be picky, but shouldn't they already have this info on their crime reports? Of don't they talk to each other? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clive Posted August 22, 2006 Share Posted August 22, 2006 Something smells Don, Having just gone through the stollen vehicle thing I know that the DVLA database gets advised by the police when vehicles are stollen. So all the data they need they should already have available to them. Or perhaps some jobsworth is re-inventing the wheel?. I phoned DVLA to report our theft and they said they did not need advising by me as the system was updated by the Police. C. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docted Posted August 23, 2006 Share Posted August 23, 2006 Clive, Mel B The info on the police computers and at the dvla is related to reg numbers, chassis numbers etc not the type or converter of the motorhome the same info as on the reg document. Mine shows Fiat Ducato and motor caravan but does not mention Hymer. So well done Don for highlighting this addition to the fight to help recover stolen motorhomes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mel B Posted August 23, 2006 Share Posted August 23, 2006 So don't they record any more details of the vehicle that has been stolen then at all? I've fortunately never been in a position to have to find out but assumed that they'd have everything recorded ... but then again we are talking about the British Police and sometimes they're not renowned for getting the facts right. Before anyone asks I have friends who are coppers plus I worked for 2 in their post-Police civilian life, and it amazed me how some ever got into the Police force at all!!! Of course there are exceptions to this rule and I'm sure there are some very bright bobbys out there!!! Do they make a wheel-clamp large enough for motorhomes ..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docted Posted August 24, 2006 Share Posted August 24, 2006 Mel going technical Its all to do with the fields on the database used for recording the crime, the proposal will enable motorhomes to be identified quicker. I am sure that you can get a "denver boot" large enough for a motorhome best way is to park on "patrolled" private ground..... It will cost as few quid to get it off though! (lol) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terrytraveller Posted August 24, 2006 Share Posted August 24, 2006 Hi Again Mel, I think I will pose the question - What size wheel do I need to fit so they can't clamp the wheel? Regards Terry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Dwight Posted August 24, 2006 Share Posted August 24, 2006 Terry, Try a tractor. Or buy a Citreon, when parking lower the suspension, it dont half give them a headache thinking how they will get a clamp on. David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest gootler Posted August 31, 2006 Share Posted August 31, 2006 I have just been on the phone to the police regarding this matter and the reason they need this information is that they have a number of unclaimed vehicles with no method of identifying their owners due to the fact the information may not have been collected correctly and different forces not sharing information. So if you've lost your beloved Motorcaravan in the past year or so it's quite possible that they have it sitting their waiting for you to collect!If you do send them an email (which I advise yo to do) with info about your vehicle please make sure you include: Vehicle make, model and base vehicle details. as well and most importantly your contact details including phone number.more details can be read here if you need it.stolenmotorcaravans@lancashire.pnn.police.uk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clive Posted August 31, 2006 Share Posted August 31, 2006 Gootler and Laura Gottelier. Is this your French cousin perhaps Greg? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted September 12, 2006 Share Posted September 12, 2006 When my rig was stolen Surrey's finest offered me the telephone number of Victim Support Counselling, but otherwise were not interested. I kid you not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob Posted September 23, 2006 Share Posted September 23, 2006 I recently sent the details of my stolen motorhome to the Police at Lancashire and within 6 weeks had a call that they had located my van. I found this pretty impressive bearing in mind that it was stolen from Hampshire and found nowhere near Lancashire. The chap I spoke to was most helpful and seems to be doing more, singlehandedly, than anybody else to combat the problem of motorhome thefts. If you have had a motorhome stolen Clive I strongly recommend that you let this 'jobsworth' as you call him have the details. I sincerely hope that he and his colleagues haven't had sight of your hurtful comments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clive Posted October 8, 2006 Share Posted October 8, 2006 Hi Rob, This post came up just as the local Police had shown how stupid and ineffective they are following the theft of our three motorcyeles. But when I contacted the DVLC they said that the system automatically notifies them when vehicles are stolen and that this is the only information they will accept to remove my name as the vehicle keeper from the DVLC computer. So with this in my mind I just wondered why a duplicate system is needed exclusively for motorhomes. With this very recent experience perhaps you can see where I was comming from. So I remain perplexed but very glad that this particular constable and police station were able to help you. I hope I am never is the same situation with our motorhome. I can report that the Police have still not found any of our motorcycles or charged anybody with their theft. Even though my wife a couple of days after the theft saw a youngster on her bike and immediately phoned the police, they said they had no one available to attend. "Chocolate fire guard" comes to mind. Since then the Police have invited me to make an "Impact Statement" as they had charged someone who had pleaded guilty. So I went to the station and did as asked. I then asked the day after the court hearing what the thief got and after a lot of fobbing off they admitted that they had got two cases mixed up. No one had been charged with the theft of our bikes but because of the mix up our case with one where the bloke pleaded guilty had been closed. I am currently having an email interchange with the Hampshire and Basingstoke Chief Constables as to why. So my experience is that the two words "Police" and "Intelligence" are mutually exclusive. But occasionally as you have found some do get their act together, but outside their "system" I hasten to point out. Regards Clive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icelander Posted March 14, 2007 Share Posted March 14, 2007 Um I can not find any stolen van database Has it been stolen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michele Posted March 14, 2007 Share Posted March 14, 2007 Amy , Advertise Here march 14th 2007 Motorhome Menu Stolen MHs Search Database Add a Stolen MH Motorhomes Database -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Stolen Motorhome database was created in response to members asking for a facility whereby motorhomes that have been stolen in the UK Could be tracked. If you have information relating to a Stolen Motorhome then please add it to our stolen motorhome database If you are unsure what to do in the event that your motorhome is stolen then read our Guide There are a few simple measures that you can take to try and prevent someone taking your pride and joy and turning it into a stolen motorhome statistic as follows:- If you intend to leave your motorhome unattended for any length of time then make sure that all windows are securely locked, roof lights and all external doors / lockers are secure including the cassette toilet door. A simple cheap ratchet luggage webbing strap can be utilised between the cab door handles (or alternatively in its absence the seatbelt could possibly be looped through the handle and into its normal fixing point), this prevents a potentially easy access point being utilised in the event of the door locks being forced / overcome. As the majority of motorhomes are based on commercial vehicle chassis the cab security especially from the door locks can be a problem. This can be overcome with the fitting of such devices as the range of addon locks from HeoSafe. These locks fit around the existing locks with no drilling and are exceptionally easy to fit and give visible and physical detterents. They can also be obtained from Outdoor Bits HERE Windscreen etching kits can be used and the registration number of your motorhome can be permanently embedded in the glass, making your motorhome less likely to be stolen Wheel clamps could also be considered as a suitably visible deterrent such as the range available on Outdoor Bits website Click HERE to view the range of SAS Wheelclamps. Wheelclamps for use on a motorhome can be purchased and utilised or similar devices such as drive way parking post bars Or alternatively you could fit other Internal visible deterrents such as steering locks, clutch locks and products of this type. Of course the simplest deterrent to theft is the fitting of a specialist motorhome quality alarm system such as the Strikeback-T Motorhome Alarm Or even that one step further on by fitting a tracking system so that in the event your motorhome does get stolen there is a greater likelyhood that it will be recovered and returned to you such as the RAC Trackstar When parking up, take a look around, is anyone paying a little too much attention to your van ? They could be part of a team i.e. One person follows you doing your supermarket shop whilst the other goes through your belongings in the van or even makes off with your now stolen motorhome, they can communicate quickly and easily with the ubiquitous mobile phones without raising suspicion. All of the above is not intended to reduce your love of the motorhome experience, but simply to make sure you are forewarned and prepared for eventualities. All of these steps when used in conjunction with common sense will hopefully prevent your motorhome becoming a statistic of our stolen motorhome database !!!. Recently Added Stolen Motorhomes Click line to show full details on each Stolen Motorhome Manufacturer Model Type Registration Town Autohomes Wanderer Coachbuilt R581 MSS Brentford Swift Royale 610 Coachbuilt N164 WHN Autostar Coachbuilt G921LNT AutoSleeper bedford Coachbuilt SHA 294W Eldiss Autostratus Coachbuilt N943 EMA Granduca Pegaso Coachbuilt R31TRA Oldbury AutoSleeper Trooper High Top F110YEL Lancaster Camper Vans L 761 SLG Eldiss Autostratus D26 LYA Perth Eldiss Coachbuilt P966 JAU Coventry Swift Kon Tiki 640 Coachbuilt P497 JYC Yate Caravans International (CI) Carioca 656 Coachbuilt GK04 CVD Enfield AutoSleeper Harmony Coachbuilt N981 JUM Rushdown Swift Coachbuilt N84YVO Southampton Swift GAZELLE F63 Coachbuilt W589XLG Bessacarr E425 High Top W603 SNG grantham Eldiss autostrous EK Coachbuilt R657UCH Compass Drifter 460 Coachbuilt M854 VCH London N21 Bessacarr E425 Coachbuilt W603 SNG grantham Coachman Talbot Excalibur Coachbuilt A990 YFT Laika ecovip 1r Low Profile T973 CLP Benimar Europe 6000ST Coachbuilt T793 BNN London drifter Coachbuilt M136 UAU Caravans International (CI) Autoroller Arabella Coachbuilt Y87CGC Herald Squire 400 RL Coachbuilt 1839 IL Burnley Eldiss custom Camper Vans G804 UCU Chester le Street Rimor 678 Coachbuilt BE200ET compass drifter 460 Coachbuilt n832 ara manchester l677 Holdsworth Villa XL High Top L677 LHE Stockport Lunar landstar Coachbuilt S362 LCK PRESTON Lunar LANDSTAR Coachbuilt S362 LCK preston AutoSleeper cCmpass Drifter Coachbuilt P591 0CV Swindon Autohomes travel home MK4 Coachbuilt F698NTP Reading VW T4 California Camper Vans M 730 MYX London Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Frank Wilkinson Posted March 14, 2007 Share Posted March 14, 2007 The list above proves a point that I made not long ago, which is, that it is almost impossible to steal a modern vehicle with an immobiliser fitted as standard, unless the thief can obtain the keys.Every single motorhome listed has a letter prefix, indicating that it is several years old.The modern, much more desirable models are nowhere to be seen! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icelander Posted March 14, 2007 Share Posted March 14, 2007 Hi Frank How do I view the database _ I am too scared to ask michele again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icelander Posted March 14, 2007 Share Posted March 14, 2007 Thanks michele Database viewed now on your thread Can you come and press my keyboard though cause I still can not find the database on my own. Perhaps Brian can help me on this one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest peter Posted March 14, 2007 Share Posted March 14, 2007 [QUOTE]Frank Wilkinson - 2007-03-14 9:57 PM The list above proves a point that I made not long ago, which is, that it is almost impossible to steal a modern vehicle with an immobiliser fitted as standard, unless the thief can obtain the keys.Every single motorhome listed has a letter prefix, indicating that it is several years old.The modern, much more desirable models are nowhere to be seen![/QUOTE]Oi! are you infering that my T reg' Rapido isn't desirable. Buit it also has an imobiliser fitted and an alarm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michele Posted March 14, 2007 Share Posted March 14, 2007 go to google type in stollen m/h and up it pops ....the one on here I think is for you to report it . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Frank Wilkinson Posted March 14, 2007 Share Posted March 14, 2007 [QUOTE]peter - 2007-03-14 10:20 PM [QUOTE]Frank Wilkinson - 2007-03-14 9:57 PM The list above proves a point that I made not long ago, which is, that it is almost impossible to steal a modern vehicle with an immobiliser fitted as standard, unless the thief can obtain the keys.Every single motorhome listed has a letter prefix, indicating that it is several years old.The modern, much more desirable models are nowhere to be seen![/QUOTE]Oi! are you infering that my T reg' Rapido isn't desirable. Buit it also has an imobiliser fitted and an alarm.[/QUOTE] I'm not infering it. I may be implying it though! And I can quite categorically state that your T reg motorhome is not as desirable to many of us as an 07 model. However, many of its age are more desirable to a thief as they're easier to nick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icelander Posted March 15, 2007 Share Posted March 15, 2007 Ok finally clicked I found the database using my own finger Motorhome Facts not Out and About Live Thanks to one and all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puckoon Posted March 22, 2007 Share Posted March 22, 2007 Hopfully this wont happen to me as I have two dogs with me most of the time... Oh and Tracker..that i can instantly check to see where it is via the Tinternet... :-D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest starspirit Posted March 22, 2007 Share Posted March 22, 2007 The greatest risk is not of theft of the vehicle but of a break in and theft of valuables, cameras, laptops, cash, passports and anything else saleable. Keeping the scum out is more important than an alarm in my view. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elsie Posted May 23, 2007 Share Posted May 23, 2007 We have just been contacted by Lancashire Constabulary regarding a motorhome they have recovered. How they got back to us I do not know. The Peaugeot emblem had been removed and substituted with Citroen. The Autosleeper mark had been removed/painted over. The chassis number had been changed and also, of course, the registration number. On top of that our van was registered at DVLA as a panel van and not a motorcaravan. (we probably should have noticed this and had it changed). It was stolen in April 2006 and recovered by police I believe about March 2007. I think they did a marvellous job!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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