trickydicky Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 Has anyone ever tried to make their own external "silver screens". We are thinking about having a go. Just need to find out where we can buy the right materials. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest peter Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 Taylormade sell it. Not cheap but at least it will save the labour charge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lennyhb Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 Have a look at the post by "Tea Cup" on This Thread. I've been looking at making some for the new van as A class ones are so expensive, plenty of material available on the web & ebay if you search Rip Stop Fabric, Kite Material & Tent Material. You can also get waterproof quilting which I thought I could use for the inner side as that worked out cheaper than buying a separate wadding material for the insulation and will make the construction easier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 1footinthegrave Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 I'm going to have a go as well........................as soon as I find an industrial sewing machine :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve928 Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 We made our own and are really pleased with them. They are a 3 layer construction left as loose layers and then just edged all around the outside with binding tape. - 4oz. PU nylon in light grey on the outside. - Hollofil quilting as insulation - can't remember the weight but about an inch thick uncompressed. - then a polyester mesh lining. Velcro to attach the side window covers to the main screen and various ties and shockcord to attach them to the van. They roll up into a sleeping bag size stuff-sac. We use them summer to keep the heat out and winter to keep it in. I didn't fit the side window covers very well in this picture: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minicamper Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 Look good anyway. What did it cost or save over ready made ones, please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve928 Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 I can't recall I'm afraid - it was a couple of years ago now. I would guess at £50 though + a few hours cutting and sewing on a normal domestic machine. It was more about getting the features we wanted: very high insulation value (no condensation EVER) yet easily compressed for storage, good coverage over the bonnet vents, a 'soft' inner as we use them a lot and didn't want to wear at the paintwork and headlights, plus finally letting some light through and not turning the cab into a black hole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HymerVan Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 Per my earlier thread I am thinking of making something for the rear of our PVC. Can Steve advise where he purchased his material ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 1footinthegrave Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 Having had a Taylormade screen we too never had any condensation, but used it so infrequently I gave it away..................having looked at the current price I should have put it on Ebay :-S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve928 Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 HymerVan - 2013-12-06 10:03 AM Per my earlier thread I am thinking of making something for the rear of our PVC. Can Steve advise where he purchased his material ? I always use Pointnorth (http://www.profabrics.co.uk/index.php) for my sewing projects.. They will send fabric samples upon request. I think it was these: 4oz. PU - http://www.profabrics.co.uk/shop/show_product_info.php?id=D4-60 Thinsulate rather than Hollowfil - http://www.profabrics.co.uk/shop/show_product_info.php?id=IT50 Polyester mesh - http://www.profabrics.co.uk/shop/show_product_info.php?id=PM3-09 £50 seems a bit of underestimate now but as I said it wasn't really about the price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 1footinthegrave Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 Steve928 - 2013-12-06 10:40 AM HymerVan - 2013-12-06 10:03 AM Per my earlier thread I am thinking of making something for the rear of our PVC. Can Steve advise where he purchased his material ? I always use Pointnorth (http://www.profabrics.co.uk/index.php) for my sewing projects.. They will send fabric samples upon request. I think it was these: 4oz. PU - http://www.profabrics.co.uk/shop/show_product_info.php?id=D4-60 Thinsulate rather than Hollowfil - http://www.profabrics.co.uk/shop/show_product_info.php?id=IT50 Polyester mesh - http://www.profabrics.co.uk/shop/show_product_info.php?id=PM3-09 £50 seems a bit of underestimate now but as I said it wasn't really about the price. Blimey, judging by those prices it looks like the retail ones are a bit of a bargain after all................ :-D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve928 Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 Scrub that post - I found the actual ingedients. £80 it was then, but as I said..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 1footinthegrave Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 Mmmm, :-S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColinB Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 We made our own internal screens. Hard work and we ended up with two left hand fronts. Drink was a factor. Be warned. Colin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 1footinthegrave Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 Even worse when you find them useless compared to external ones :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Kirby Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 lennyhb - 2013-12-05 10:54 PM Have a look at the post by "Tea Cup" on This Thread. I've been looking at making some for the new van as A class ones are so expensive, plenty of material available on the web & ebay if you search Rip Stop Fabric, Kite Material & Tent Material. You can also get waterproof quilting which I thought I could use for the inner side as that worked out cheaper than buying a separate wadding material for the insulation and will make the construction easier. If you're still toying with the Hymer, Lenny, I'd suggest having a close look at the ones they supply. Yes, they cost €325, but the fit is superb, and the bottom edge covers to top of the bonnet so, apart from what little gets in above the top of the windscreen, it keeps the whole of the engine bay area damp free. The rear sections on both sides are slotted into sections of caravan awning channel that rise vertically just behind the cab windows (or where fitted, the cab door), which then curve around to return forward across the top of the window/door for the extent of the sliding pane (or if fitted the door). There are three sections: one for windscreen and the forward, fixed, side windows, and one for each side that have the beaded edging to run into the awning channel. If necessary, the panel over the door can be released to allow the door to open, while leaving the rest in place. The maker's label says Tecon Covercraft, but they don't appear on their website - and you would need to fix those awning channels to take the bead if they could supply. They achieve a very snug fit and are quite thick, of the usual waterproof, aluminised fabric, with good quality heavy duto zips. The make up is also good, and they appear durable - but time will tell! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 1footinthegrave Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 On a general point, I've often wondered where those gallons of condensation on an uninsulated screen end up when any screen is fitted :-S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JudgeMental Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 posted this a few weeks ago.... http://www.reimo.com/de/37285-thermomatte_do_it_yourself_universal/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayjsj Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 Now If only I can find a pattern, my wife has agreed to Knit me an Awning. *-) Ray Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JudgeMental Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 brown paper..make your own :-D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 1footinthegrave Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 Seems to make perfect sense.............spend 45/55 k on a motorhome, then make a silver screen to save 40 quid :-S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracker Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 1footinthegrave - 2013-12-06 12:39 PM Seems to make perfect sense.............spend 45/55 k on a motorhome, then make a silver screen to save 40 quid And if I had suggested saving a few quid by so doing you can imagine what all the usual suspects would now be calling me! It may not be the politically correct point of view on here but we really can't be bothered to faff around with the wretched things at all because they just are not worth the faffing about, loss of daylight and view out and storage as far as we are concerned. So we save even more cash to spend on the more important things in life! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lennyhb Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 Brian Kirby - 2013-12-06 11:47 AM lennyhb - 2013-12-05 10:54 PM Have a look at the post by "Tea Cup" on This Thread. I've been looking at making some for the new van as A class ones are so expensive, plenty of material available on the web & ebay if you search Rip Stop Fabric, Kite Material & Tent Material. You can also get waterproof quilting which I thought I could use for the inner side as that worked out cheaper than buying a separate wadding material for the insulation and will make the construction easier. If you're still toying with the Hymer, Lenny, I'd suggest having a close look at the ones they supply. Yes, they cost €325, but the fit is superb, and the bottom edge covers to top of the bonnet so, apart from what little gets in above the top of the windscreen, it keeps the whole of the engine bay area damp free. The rear sections on both sides are slotted into sections of caravan awning channel that rise vertically just behind the cab windows (or where fitted, the cab door), which then curve around to return forward across the top of the window/door for the extent of the sliding pane (or if fitted the door). There are three sections: one for windscreen and the forward, fixed, side windows, and one for each side that have the beaded edging to run into the awning channel. If necessary, the panel over the door can be released to allow the door to open, while leaving the rest in place. The maker's label says Tecon Covercraft, but they don't appear on their website - and you would need to fix those awning channels to take the bead if they could supply. They achieve a very snug fit and are quite thick, of the usual waterproof, aluminised fabric, with good quality heavy duto zips. The make up is also good, and they appear durable - but time will tell! Not toying Brian it's on order, did think about ordering the Hymer ones must admit the price put me off a bit and I'm not bad when let loose on a sewing machine. I'll enquire, van's not due until March. Out of interest with Truma heating covering the screen area is condensation much of a problem in the Exsis? We like to have the van quite hot but don't run heating overnight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyishuk Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 Maybe take a look through the Club classifieds and find a bargain, or something you could work with to make your own ? Rgds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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