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Nigel farage says let in the syrian refugees , well Twenty years ago I might have agreed with this, but today we are too overcrowded to allow anyone in and we still have another wave of new arrivals to contend with in the new year

What do you think ??

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What do I think?

 

a) Farage is sadly too much of a clown to continue to lead what could be a true force for change in our stagnant political farce.

 

b) That said those that prefer the status quo regularly seek to put extreme words into Farage's mouth - so what he has now said is not a U-turn at all. It only seems that way if you believe the spin of Ukips detractors.

 

c) What he has consistently said is that as a Nation, we should be wary of allowing economic migrants into the country.

 

d) Allowing true refugees from conflict a safe haven on our shores is a long tradition of the UK that I believe we should all be proud.

 

e) Farage is making a statement that his detractors are finding hard to deal with. Hence the accusation of his making a "U-turn".

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Totally agree with everything you say Clive. (Now that IS unusual! )

 

Its not as if honouring our committments to an agreement that we entered into in 1951 ( I think) is going to cost us much - 1000, or so refugees - although how they would cope with conditions here, the weather especially, I am unsure.

Farage has the luxury of being able to: 'snipe from the sidelines' without the likelihood of ever having to take responsibility for his statements. The other three leaders are being a lot more wary - and likely to compromise our standing in the world as a tolerant nation, if they carry on with their current positions. they all - Cameron Clegg & Miliband - have said: " No refugees"

 

Colin.

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Fararge may be sniping from the side lines, but a lot of what he says echos what a lot of us think.

 

As for not being fit to run the country, hands up all those that followed the Sun's advice that there was no alternative, and voted Blair in 3 times.

 

I don't believe that I shall be resident in the UK for the next election, but if I can get an ex pat vote I would seriously,consider Ukip on the grounds that none of the press barons or other vested interests are supporting them.

AGD

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Mass immigration has been a boon for big business.......as its kept wages for the low skilled down ;-)...........but at least the taxpayer can top up their wages via tax credits...............as I say a win win for big business :D..........

 

 

Not so good for the taxpayer though :-S..........

 

 

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pelmetman - 2014-01-01 3:05 PM

 

Mass immigration has been a boon for big business.......as its kept wages for the low skilled down ;-)...........but at least the taxpayer can top up their wages via tax credits...............as I say a win win for big business :D..........

 

 

Not so good for the taxpayer though :-S..........

 

 

New boss of at RBS Ross McEwan after only 3 months gets £1.5 million in free shares as compensation for missing out on bonuses at his previous employment. Did someone force him out of his old job?

 

Goldman Sachs pay deals worth more than £3 million each to 115 senior bankers.

 

Yep, we're all in this together *-)

 

Scrooge Dave.

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nowtelse2do - 2014-01-01 6:23 PM

 

pelmetman - 2014-01-01 3:05 PM

 

Mass immigration has been a boon for big business.......as its kept wages for the low skilled down ;-)...........but at least the taxpayer can top up their wages via tax credits...............as I say a win win for big business :D..........

 

 

Not so good for the taxpayer though :-S..........

 

 

New boss of at RBS Ross McEwan after only 3 months gets £1.5 million in free shares as compensation for missing out on bonuses at his previous employment. Did someone force him out of his old job?

 

Goldman Sachs pay deals worth more than £3 million each to 115 senior bankers.

 

Yep, we're all in this together *-)

 

Scrooge Dave.

 

I dare say Fwank will be along to defend big business soon Dave ;-).............salt of the earth they are proper pucker chaps like his self :D.............Yus yus very lucky we is to ave the likes of them to look after us poor oikes *-)

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nowtelse2do - 2014-01-01 7:34 PM

 

Cue HE

 

Waiting in suspenders Dave :-S

 

Maybe a bit of bait will help ;-)...........

 

Tory MP who had his Aga serviced on expenses is knighted in New Year honours list

MPs and peers accuse PM of looking after the 'privileged few' with honours

David Cameron handed gongs to colleagues, friends and Tory donors

By GERRI PEEV

PUBLISHED: 23:28 GMT, 31 December 2013 | UPDATED: 23:30 GMT, 31 December 2013

 

Lavish expenses: Peter Luff was criticised during the expenses scandal for charging taxpayers for the cost of fixing the Aga at his constituency home

 

A backlash over the New Year honours list was growing last night after it emerged a knighthood has been given to a Tory MP who once claimed expenses for having his Aga cooker serviced.

 

It comes after David Cameron was yesterday accused of ‘cronyism’ for handing gongs to Conservative donors, friends – even the woman who runs his supper club.

 

During the expenses scandal Peter Luff, who received a knighthood for political and public service, was also criticised for switching the designation of his second home from Worcester to London, which allowed him to claim £3,000 for redecorating his flat in the capital.

 

He charged taxpayers £5,000 for decorating and repairs on his constituency home, including the £53.71 cost of having his Aga fixed. He also claimed nearly £1,000 for two china tea sets. He has always denied any wrongdoing over his expenses and ‘flipping’ the designation of his home.

 

Sir Peter said he will stand down at the next General Election.

Last night MPs and peers accused Mr Cameron of looking after a ‘privileged few’, while failing to recognise the true spirit of the honours list.

 

Shadow minister Jonathan Ashworth said: ‘David Cameron stands up only for a privileged few. His mates and millionaire donors get honours and tax cuts while everyone else is left to pick up the tab.’

 

And Liberal Democrat peer Lord Oakeshott said: ‘Honours should be for the unsung heroes of our communities, not for outgoing MPs who are power-laden with their index-linked pensions.’

 

Yesterday Mr Cameron was heavily criticised for handing out honours to friends and associates, such as PR supremo Alan Parker with whom he went on holiday in 2008.

 

Peter Emerson Jones’s OBE for services to business in the North West raised eyebrows because he has given £31,000 to George Osborne’s constituency party, and another £10,000 to the Tories.

And Marion Dowding, chairman of the West Oxfordshire Conservative Association’s supper club and former deputy chairman of the same association received an MBE for voluntary political service.

 

More...

****UKIP membership soars by two thirds in a YEAR while Tory numbers have halved since Cameron became PM*****

 

 

The 'cronies' honours list: Controversy over knighthood for PR man who holidayed with Cameron and awards to Tory and LibDem donors

 

Other gongs causing controversy last night included a knighthood for services to politics and the public for Kevin Barron, a Labour MP and chairman of the Commons Standards Committee.

 

In 2012, he was found to be claiming £1,500 in expenses to rent a family home belonging to shadow cabinet minister Jon Trickett, after selling his own flat for a £500,000 profit.

 

Mr Barron said at the time that although the rental agreement was within the rules, ‘in retrospect it would have been better not to have rented off a colleague’.

 

Meanwhile Tory MP Richard Ottaway, who is also standing down in 2015, received a knighthood for parliamentary and public service. However in November, it emerged that he was paying Croydon Conservative Association £6,000 a year to use its office as his constituency headquarters – a controversial arrangement that some criticise as a means of gaining extra funds for party activities.

 

Their honours mean that the Prime Minister has now handed out knighthoods to 11 male Tory MPs, but he has only made one female Tory MP a dame, Angela Watkins. Former Cabinet ministers Cheryl Gillan and Caroline Spelman were both overlooked.

 

Prime Minister David Cameron has been accused of looking after the 'privileged few' with this year's New Year honour's list

 

'Privileged few': David Cameron, left, was heavily criticised for handing out honours to friends and associates, such as PR supremo Alan Parker, right, with whom he went on holiday in 2008

 

Dame Tessa Jowell, a former Labour Cabinet minister who received an honour for her role in organising the 2012 Olympics, called for more transparency. She said: ‘There is a case for opening up the process a bit and explaining a bit more how the system works.’

 

It also emerged that a former Conservative campaigns officer has also been put in charge of public appointments.

But Laura Wyld’s former role at Conservative HQ has alarmed Labour, who claim it could lead to Tories getting honours and jobs on powerful quangos.

 

Lobbying Transparency campaigner Tamasin Cave said: ‘Wyld’s been a lobbyist. This job needs someone impartial. It does not bode well.’ There was also controversy about the Former Bank of England deputy governor Paul Tucker being knighted.

He was embroiled in 2012’s rate-fixing Libor scandal after he was forced to deny claims he had ‘leaned on’ Barclays to lower its rate after pressure from Whitehall.

 

 

 

If people want more of the same then vote Tory *-)..............if not vote UKIP :-D

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