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Radio 2 news 6pm..........He just said, in relation to the Somerset Levels flooding.............

 

'There are lessons to be learned'.............and he admitted dredging 'might' have been helpful in reducing the amount of flooding..........

 

Quote from Sky news..........

"Everything that can be done, will be done and I'll make sure that happens. There are always lessons to learn and I'll make sure they are learned.

"One of the big ones is that the pause in dredging that took place from the late 90s, that was wrong and we need to get dredging again.

Amazing isn't it that our 'Lords and Masters' have so many lessons to be learned.   As ofor the stopping of dredging stopping from the late 90's being wrong.............as they say colloquially

'NO SH1T SHERLOCK'...............

 

 

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It seems odd that you vent your spleen at Mr Cameron for the failings of the government that was in power in the late 90's and who chose to cut spending on flood defences not when we were almost bankrupt but when the economy was strong?

And why was the economy strong in the late 90s?

Because the government prior to Mr Blair was a darned sight more prudent than the Socialists - nothing new there then - and as ever the Socialists shall inherit a healthy economy and take credit for early growth and then endow weakness to their successors and blame everyone else except their own incompetence.

Some things never change!

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I am keen not to make this a party political issue - because i genuinely feel that the "agenda" that some have been following crosses the party divide.

 

However, the last two heads of the Environment agency that are guilty of dereliction of duty whatever the rationale are - Baroness Young (Labour) and the current apology of an individual Lord Chris Smith (Labour)

 

After his stunningly inept performance today - I have every sympathy with the local MP who said:-

 

“I will tell him what I bloody well think of him - he should go, he should walk,” he said.

 

“I'm livid. This little git has never even been on the telephone to me. When I find out where he is, I will give it to him. He's a coward.”

 

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/hes-a-coward-a-little-git-i-will-flush-his-head-down-the-loo-tory-mp-launches-brutal-attack-on-environment-agency-chief-9115159.html

 

Apparently he then said he would like to "stick his head down the loo".

 

 

(lol)

 

 

 

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Tracker - 2014-02-07 7:06 PMIt seems odd that you vent your spleen at Mr Cameron for the failings of the government that was in power in the late 90's and who chose to cut spending on flood defences not when we were almost bankrupt but when the economy was strong? And why was the economy strong in the late 90s? Because the government prior to Mr Blair was a darned sight more prudent than the Socialists - nothing new there then - and as ever the Socialists shall inherit a healthy economy and take credit for early growth and then endow weakness to their successors and blame everyone else except their own incompetence.Some things never change!

 

I wasn't 'venting my spleen' at him per se.  I was merely showing a degree of 'here we go again' towards whomsoever in 'Power' said it.

 

Is it just me...is no one else fed up with 'Mandarins/lords/ Masters/Chies Execitives et al coming out in time of crisis saying 'Lessons will be learned' ...and they never bloody well are?    It is just so much hot air.................lessons learned (but in reality not learned at all) where common sense and duty/morals etc would have avoided the issues in the first place.

 

 

Regardless of who was in 'Office' or who inherited what it is no excuse for perpetuating something that is so obviously wrong.  Political 'footballs' have no place in the real world so who to blame for 'stopping the dredging is neither here or there.  What matters is that it was a policy that continued....wrongly to the detriment of those whose homes and livelihoods depended on it.

 

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CliveH - 2014-02-07 7:59 PMI am keen not to make this a party political issue - because i genuinely feel that the "agenda" that some have been following crosses the party divide.However, the last two heads of the Environment agency that are guilty of dereliction of duty whatever the rationale are - Baroness Young (Labour) and the current apology of an individual Lord Chris Smith (Labour) After his stunningly inept performance today - I have every sympathy with the local MP who said:-“I will tell him what I bloody well think of him - he should go, he should walk,” he said.“I'm livid. This little git has never even been on the telephone to me. When I find out where he is, I will give it to him. He's a coward.”http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/hes-a-coward-a-little-git-i-will-flush-his-head-down-the-loo-tory-mp-launches-brutal-attack-on-environment-agency-chief-9115159.htmlApparently he then said he would like to "stick his head down the loo". (lol)

 

I watched 'Smith' (I refuse to use his title as he is showing no contrition or real sympathy for those affected so disastrously..................Lord by bestowed favour but certainly not Lordly) on TV tonight and he is nothing more than an excuse for a man.  His being there, seeing for himself the devastation (both in human/livestock and ecological terms) did nothing to shift him from 'politikspeak'.  The man is a disgrace and I agree wholeheartedly with Mr Liddell-Grainger.

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RogerC - 2014-02-07 8:23 PM
CliveH - 2014-02-07 7:59 PMI am keen not to make this a party political issue - because i genuinely feel that the "agenda" that some have been following crosses the party divide.However, the last two heads of the Environment agency that are guilty of dereliction of duty whatever the rationale are - Baroness Young (Labour) and the current apology of an individual Lord Chris Smith (Labour) After his stunningly inept performance today - I have every sympathy with the local MP who said:-“I will tell him what I bloody well think of him - he should go, he should walk,” he said.“I'm livid. This little git has never even been on the telephone to me. When I find out where he is, I will give it to him. He's a coward.”http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/hes-a-coward-a-little-git-i-will-flush-his-head-down-the-loo-tory-mp-launches-brutal-attack-on-environment-agency-chief-9115159.htmlApparently he then said he would like to "stick his head down the loo". (lol)

 

I watched 'Smith' (I refuse to use his title as he is showing no contrition or real sympathy for those affected so disastrously..................Lord by bestowed favour but certainly not Lordly) on TV tonight and he is nothing more than an excuse for a man.  His being there, seeing for himself the devastation (both in human/livestock and ecological terms) did nothing to shift him from 'politikspeak'.  The man is a disgrace and I agree wholeheartedly with Mr Liddell-Grainger.

yes absolutely - could not agree more
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Tracker - 2014-02-07 7:06 PM

 

 

And why was the economy strong in the late 90s?

Because the government prior to Mr Blair was a darned sight more prudent than the Socialists - !

 

Thatcher was good to pensions salesmen I know.

But the idea she was prudent with our money is a bit of a myth.

link: http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/jan/13/north-sea-oil-money-uk-norwegians-fund

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malc d - 2014-02-07 8:39 PM

 

My main concern is that Cameron hasn't mentioned " hard working families " for a couple of days now.

 

Doesn't he care about them any more ?

 

 

:-(

 

(lol) Yeah, I had notice that he hasn't seemed to have shoehorned it to every bl**dy statement he utters, as per usual...I do hope they don't feel abandoned... :-S

 

...I'm sure that will be addressed, "Going forward"....

 

Although I'm still a bit flummoxed by Tracker referring to "Mr Blair" as a socialist...? 8-) (lol)

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Peter James - 2014-02-08 8:24 AM

 

Tracker - 2014-02-07 7:06 PM

 

 

And why was the economy strong in the late 90s?

Because the government prior to Mr Blair was a darned sight more prudent than the Socialists - !

 

Thatcher was good to pensions salesmen I know.

But the idea she was prudent with our money is a bit of a myth.

link: http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/jan/13/north-sea-oil-money-uk-norwegians-fund

 

I thought prudent was a strange way to describe a regime that had sold money making projects to make a few quick quids

 

However as the topic was about the suffering these people are still having and will have for the foreseeable future, finding an answer to stopping floodplains from flooding without flooding someone else is more important, its not who's to blame its who can sort it.

 

Rather than spending money on HS2, spending on sea defenses & flood defenses would be my first choice

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  Now if I was a Mandarin in 1990 and some crackpot 'Ecologist' came up with a scheme whereby I could save money by selling my dredgers and claim an EU grant and gain 'Green' brownie points by returning the levels to a pre 1600 state or earlier ie a marsh would I be tempted?

Mind I would have to keep the whole thing low key otherwise the local population might object, claim compensation, so what do I do ? Softly softly let the artificial rivers and drainage ditches clog up and claim its all due to climate change? that should work. Oh and put a spokesperson on TV to claim the only real cure is to plant trees 30 miles away. You couldn't make it up

 

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