camocam1 Posted July 13, 2014 Share Posted July 13, 2014 just bought a bailey 760 and its got a whale water filler, anyone got a bailey MH and how do you get on with the water filling as have always used a water carrier and funnel if I don't want to move the MH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solwaybuggier Posted July 13, 2014 Share Posted July 13, 2014 It's painfully slow, and people have tried various modifications. But if you've got a water carrier, it fills significantly quicker using the Whale submersible pump which should have been supplied. Quite effective if you don't want to leave your pitch. If we're in a hurry or using an aire where you pay for 5 minutes or 100 litres water, we fill into the top of the tank using a hose - not sure where the inspection cover for the tank is on the 760 though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallynnette Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 Personally i don't find it slow at all, we carry 2 collapsable water containers (wide necked to take submersible). If we need extra water its easier than moving the camper. Obviously use m/home service point when leaving site but on the odd occaision we find it does the job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bertieburstner Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 we have a Bailey 750 with the same filling system and have to say I am now converted (after 4 motorhomes with "normal" hole in the side) and think it's great. You do need to buy the Whale pump system EP1312 which fits most water containers. Then press a switch on the control panel and it fills the tank. It doesnt take much time. Alternatively use the supplied system to fill at a tap. I used to carry round a large hosepipe (we don't move the van much when on site) (lol) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camocam1 Posted July 14, 2014 Author Share Posted July 14, 2014 thanks for the replies, get the MH on Friday, not sure what comes with it as all the movable stuff was boxed and in storage so could not be stolen said the dealer. Will get a full handover when they deliver it to me but they are NOT bailey agents so just hope then know how everything works. I have a collapsible water container but not sure of the opening but if stuck at first can always fill through the filler cap which is in the centre of the rear lounge. Are the manuals that come with the bailey fairly easy to understand ??? follow ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelly58 Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 We had the whale system on our autosleeper no doubt useful on a sited caravan , but as for a touring motorhome its as useful as an ash tray on a motorbike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelly58 Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 We had the whale system on our autosleeper no doubt useful on a sited caravan , but as for a touring motorhome its as useful as an ash tray on a motorbike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordThornber Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 Can't see what the issue can be. Superb no leak system. Never going back to messing about with pipes, etc etc. Martyn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Leake Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 I can't see the advantage of the system. With a conventional system one can fill with a hose or as we do just keep topping it up with a few MK 1 watering can fulls. We are thinking of,ordering a new Auto-Sleeper in October but if we do will be specifying a conventional system which they are now prepared to fit for factory new builds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordThornber Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 Hi Colin, the advantages of this system for us are no filling. However, I can see how it probably wont suit a lot of van users who tour. As we don't tour in the van, we tend to stay put on site, it's akin to a domestic water supply. No weight or drips. And no we don't move the van, we make sure we have a water supply available. Don't forget, we can if necessary still fill via a pipe directly into the tank although that's not ideal. It also suits our future plans if on site employment. Before anyone weighs in with, "you'd be better off with a caravan and a car", regarding our van use, dont bother. Martyn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve928 Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 LordThornber - 2014-07-14 9:52 PM Can't see what the issue can be. Martyn LordThornber - 2014-07-15 8:23 AM However, I can see how it probably wont suit a lot of van users who tour. Martyn So you CAN see what the issue can be.. :-D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordThornber Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 Ha ha, fair comment Steve, clearer head than last night, hic :D Martyn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camocam1 Posted July 15, 2014 Author Share Posted July 15, 2014 thanks again for the input, yes can fill via the cap on top of the holding tank which is the middle if the rear lounge but the boss not too keen on that so will just have to see how we get on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek Uzzell Posted July 16, 2014 Share Posted July 16, 2014 My understanding is that Bailey only provides a Whale "Aquasource" system for its motorhomes. As will be seen from the following link http://www.whalepumps.com/rv/product.aspx?Category_ID=10009&Product_ID=11&FriendlyID=Aquasource-Mains this is intended to allow a leisure-vehicle to be connected to a constant mains water-supply on a campsite 'super pitch', but (provided that the Aquasource 7.5m hose is sufficiently long to reach a water tap) there should be no need with this system to resort to filling the water-tank via its inspection-cap. It would appear that (as mentioned by bertieburstner) Bailey does not provide as standard the equipment necessary to pump water into the motorhome via an external container. For that capability the Whale "Watermaster" EP1312 product (example here) http://www.leisureshopdirect.com/caravan/water/product_27854/whale_assy_plug-hose_pump_premium_12v_-_ep1312.aspx?aff=122 would be needed, plus a suitable container (eg. an "Aquaroll") for the water. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camocam1 Posted July 16, 2014 Author Share Posted July 16, 2014 Thanks Derrek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solwaybuggier Posted July 16, 2014 Share Posted July 16, 2014 Derek Uzzell - 2014-07-16 8:07 AM My understanding is that Bailey only provides a Whale "Aquasource" system for its motorhomes. As will be seen from the following link http://www.whalepumps.com/rv/product.aspx?Category_ID=10009&Product_ID=11&FriendlyID=Aquasource-Mains this is intended to allow a leisure-vehicle to be connected to a constant mains water-supply on a campsite 'super pitch', but (provided that the Aquasource 7.5m hose is sufficiently long to reach a water tap) there should be no need with this system to resort to filling the water-tank via its inspection-cap. It would appear that (as mentioned by bertieburstner) Bailey does not provide as standard the equipment necessary to pump water into the motorhome via an external container. For that capability the Whale "Watermaster" EP1312 product (example here) http://www.leisureshopdirect.com/caravan/water/product_27854/whale_assy_plug-hose_pump_premium_12v_-_ep1312.aspx?aff=122 would be needed, plus a suitable container (eg. an "Aquaroll") for the water. They may have changed the spec, but when we bought our 740 in March 2013 they definitely came with a submersible Whale pump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solwaybuggier Posted July 16, 2014 Share Posted July 16, 2014 Derek Uzzell - 2014-07-16 8:07 AM My understanding is that Bailey only provides a Whale "Aquasource" system for its motorhomes. As will be seen from the following link http://www.whalepumps.com/rv/product.aspx?Category_ID=10009&Product_ID=11&FriendlyID=Aquasource-Mains this is intended to allow a leisure-vehicle to be connected to a constant mains water-supply on a campsite 'super pitch', but (provided that the Aquasource 7.5m hose is sufficiently long to reach a water tap) there should be no need with this system to resort to filling the water-tank via its inspection-cap. It would appear that (as mentioned by bertieburstner) Bailey does not provide as standard the equipment necessary to pump water into the motorhome via an external container. For that capability the Whale "Watermaster" EP1312 product (example here) http://www.leisureshopdirect.com/caravan/water/product_27854/whale_assy_plug-hose_pump_premium_12v_-_ep1312.aspx?aff=122 would be needed, plus a suitable container (eg. an "Aquaroll") for the water. They may have changed the spec, but when we bought our 740 in March 2013 they definitely came with a submersible Whale pump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayjsj Posted July 16, 2014 Share Posted July 16, 2014 We had a similar (truma) system on our Autocruise, did'nt find it a problem, just fitted a Truma adapter on the end of a normal filling hose, and filled up at the Tap/service point as usual, i DID check all the internal connectors/jubilee clips were tight enough to take water at 'Mains Pressure' first though. and was able to pump water aboard using the supplied submersable pump. Good luck when your new van arrives. Ray Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallynnette Posted July 16, 2014 Share Posted July 16, 2014 Ours also came complete with submersible, I also connect the main hose together with a X Hose if need the extra length. I found the whole system a doddle and easy to use, the only thing I have an issue with is how low the waste pipe is, fine if emptying over a drain but into a container is awkward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordThornber Posted July 16, 2014 Share Posted July 16, 2014 Picked ours up 2 months back, when we ordered it in April, the salesman explained that Bailey no longer supply the submersible item. Martyn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camocam1 Posted July 16, 2014 Author Share Posted July 16, 2014 getting MH Friday lunchtime and plan is to just load everything from old MH (currently in boxes) in the boxes then heading off to a small site about an hour away to try it out and shall we say play with it. So will up date you when I get back if it has a submersible pump or not, and probably have lots of questions Ron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aitchy63 Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 We have that whale connector and the only way to see if it's full is when the overflow operates, so how do you stay connected to the mains when on a super pitch, also, where does all my fresh water go between fill up and arrival at site,I am usually down by 50% and that is unacceptable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lennyhb Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 Aitchy63 - 2014-08-27 8:06 PM We have that whale connector and the only way to see if it's full is when the overflow operates, so how do you stay connected to the mains when on a super pitch, also, where does all my fresh water go between fill up and arrival at site,I am usually down by 50% and that is unacceptable. Sounds crazy, why put a caravan system in a Motorhome! OK a few people who stay on sites for days on end may like it , even so it's easier to move the van than lug water containers about and you have to store the containers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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