Tracker Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 Peter James - 2014-07-23 7:09 PM Great picture Brian.Reminds me of Mont Cenis, but I don't know where it is Reminds me of the Alpine Route in France - Col D'Iseran, Galibier, de la Bonette or one of they there Cols along that fabulously interesting and scenic route? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Kirby Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 Peter James - 2014-07-23 7:09 PM Brian Kirby - 2014-07-19 11:50 AM Three vans. 1. 2005 Burstner T585 (Low profile) on old shape Fiat base, 2.8JTD 146PS, 3,400kg MAM. 24.56MPG over 10,307 miles. 2. 2007 Hobby Van (Low profile) on Mk 7 Transit 2.2, 130PS, 3,500kg MAM. 28.27MPG over 32,114 miles. 3. 2013 Hymer Exsis-i (A-class) on Ducato 2.3, 150PS, 3.700kg MAM.25.85 MPG over 6,522 miles. The above MPG figures are cumulative, are measures fill to fill, and do not rely on the inevitably optiistic trip recorders. All were new, so there will be some effect from the early, "loosening up" period, when MPG tends to be higher. All were driven over a variety of roads, including some mountain roads, mainly on the continent, with minimal motorway type mileage. Great picture Brian.Reminds me of Mont Cenis, but I don't know where it is Near the summit of the Galibier, descending, and thank you. :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rolandrat Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 The word Buncefield struck a cord. I used to deliver bulk additives some years ago and I must admit that once I'd discharged I couldn't get out fast enough. I remember driving passed on the day of the fire and was glad I wasn't in there, I was on my way to Heathrow with a load of runway de-icer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muswell Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 We live about 20miles south and the bang was very impressive even at that distance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek Uzzell Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 Peter James - 2014-07-23 7:07 PM Tracker - 2014-07-23 11:06 AM When I were a lad my Dad always used to add Redex to the petrol whenever he filled up because he reckoned the cars ran better with it and it was so cheap that at worst it did no harm? I'm not 'expert' enough to know whether the same principle would apply to adding two stroke oil to diesel fuel - but it might? as I recall the engineering in those days was such that a petrol engine needed a rebore after about 30,000 miles, and RedeX was marketed as an upper cylinder lubricant in an attempt to prolong engine life. But Diesel oil is much kinder to moving parts than petrol, and I have never heard of it being used in a diesel. There are several Redex products for diesel powerplants http://www.holtsauto.com/products/group/additives/diesel and others to stick in petrol or oil. I’ve always added a dash of prune-juice to my vehicles’ diesel fuel. As this is proven to ‘loosen up’ a human’s digestive system, it stands to reason it will reduce friction in a motor and, consequently, will improve fuel consumption. My experiments have shown that adding three dessert-spoonfuls of prune-juice to a tankful of diesel fuel will improve a Ford Transit 125bhp 2-litre motor’s consumption from 30mpg-average to an incredible 57mpg-average. Ex-Lax chewable tablets also work well (just drop one in the tank when filling up) but prune-juice is cheaper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Had Enough Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 I've been adding prune juice to my diesel for many years but I've also found that supermarket own-brand prune juice is not as effective as premium products bought from my local specialist grocer. With Tesco's Value range prune juice my average consumption increased from 30 mpg to 52 mpg but using a high quality brand increased this considerably. The best result of 63 mpg was obtained by adding Fortnum and Mason's 'Imperial Pure' prune juice, which is sourced from approved suppliers, all of which are in Commonwealth countries. It is more expensive but, when I set up an Excel spreadsheet, which calculates the cost/benefit equation to three decimal places, I found that Fortnum and Mason's prune juice paid for for itself after only 184 miles. If Alpine passes are brought into the equation the extra cost is recouped more quickly, as premium-brand juice doesn't seem to be affected by lower barometric pressure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracker Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 Best stick with adding prune juice to the vehicles then Frank as it seems to have given you a severe dose of verbal diarrhea! Or is it too much passing in the Alpine regions? But don't let Brian Kirby near the stuff as he sure don't need it - unless he is already a connoisseur? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 Tracker - 2014-07-25 9:48 AM Or is it too much passing in the Alpine regions? It's well known that campers with cassettes full of doo doo's suffer from pressure build up at Alpine altitudes Rich ;-)..................... I believe it can also happen to some campers at lower levels when their doo doo content is way above normal levels 8-)................ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robinhood Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 Had Enough - 2014-07-25 8:51 AM I've been adding prune juice to my diesel for many years but I've also found that supermarket own-brand prune juice is not as effective as premium products bought from my local specialist grocer. ......don't do it!!! It'll fail the emissions test at MOT time. ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Kirby Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 This is not strictly true. The vehicle passes the emissions test OK, but the exhaust fumes cause the technicians to pass out. The fail is therefore on Health and Safety grounds, not on non-compliance grounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracker Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 WOW Brian - I am impressed - a posting that, but for one word - is only two lines long. It seems that abstinence from prune juice also has it's benefits! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 Re adding 2 stroke to diesel, thought I'd see what the experts say ;-)................. http://eng-tips.com/viewthread.cfm?qid=257408 Clearly they can't agree either :D..................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pepe63xnotuse Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 pelmetman - 2014-07-25 12:30 PM Re adding 2 stroke to diesel, thought I'd see what the experts say ;-)................. http://eng-tips.com/viewthread.cfm?qid=257408 Clearly they can't agree either :D..................... But even if you had found "experts" who agreed, you wouldn't be trusting them anyway...(...presumably because they'd all be in it together?). ;-) Seeing as you've drawn on a forum from 2009(and in which some are referring to '91 Dodges and Cummins), do we assume that your Google search of the free-to-view newspapers, drew a blank on the subject ?... I shouldn't worry either way Dave, you could probably get away with running yours on a mixture of nutty slack and lard.! (..just let me know how you get on because it would probably run our Hiace on something similar.. (lol) ). Edit to add: I found Derek and Franks' "prune juice " posts rather amusing.. :-D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Kirby Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 Tracker - 2014-07-25 12:30 PM WOW Brian - I am impressed - a posting that, but for one word - is only two lines long. It seems that abstinence from prune juice also has it's benefits! b*****ks! :-) I reply as I judge most helpful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracker Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 I would not add anything to a modern diesel engine's fuel as they are expensive enough to fix as it is without giving them any excuse to further misbehave. I can see the benefit on an older completely mechanical fuel system diesel engine with no electronic 'brain' to take any excuse to go wrong, and we always used to add a dollop of engine oil to every refill of red diesel on our Perkins 4/108 and 6/354 fishing boat engines - not that we noticed any discernible difference - but in they were of a very different era to a modern diesel. . If it ain't broke don't try to fix it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 pepe63 - 2014-07-25 12:58 PM (..just let me know how you get on because it would probably run our Hiace on something similar.. (lol) ). Just from my own anecdotal experiments with 2 stroke in my delivery Tranny Pepe ;-)................... Apart from the reduction in engine noise and faster acceleration, I could also achieve in excess of 80 mph according to the speedo 8-)................compared 75 mph max on standard cheapo diesel........so maybe its not a myth :D............... I stopped using it as when I'm doing deliveries I'm a pedal to the metal Red van man................and I've already had one ticket last year *-).................. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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