Tanskavan Posted September 22, 2006 Share Posted September 22, 2006 We are looking at making the change from Caravan to Motorhome and currently have a fixed bed Swift Caravan. Some Motorhomes with Make Up beds look at though the cusions are quite flat, unlike our older caravan which had knee roll supports which made sleeping uncomfortable at times. Has anyone any info good or bad about a Bessecarr 760 (Fixed Bed) or other similar models? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michele Posted September 22, 2006 Share Posted September 22, 2006 hi, we have a bessacarr 765 6 berth fixed bed ,wouldn't swop it for the world . nice big cupboards nice beds nice shower have a look . good luck (lol) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supertractorman Posted September 22, 2006 Share Posted September 22, 2006 Hi, One of the reasons we chose the Bessacarr was because of the nice firm cushions, which we think is essential for a good nights rest. Our option was for E795 to either use as 2 singles or Queen size double. Having had caravans sometimes making cushions into a bed can be a work of art, and at worst strong at joining points and weak in the middles. David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enodreven Posted September 22, 2006 Share Posted September 22, 2006 Hi, I agree about the fixed bed, and as for the rear lounge models everyone that i have met that has a rear lounge model appear to make it up as a fixed bed while they are using the MH, so it becomes a fixed bed rather than the rear lounge that it was designed as ??. The other point i would make is regarding storage if you are going for a fixed bed or the rear lounge models and are likely to do the same as the people i have met and make the lounge up as a fixed bed while you are traveling, Then i would suggest you investigate a garage model as the amount of storage that you get with these models is substancial and i personnally wouldn't know where to put all of our stuff if we didn't have a garage it really makes storage very easy Hope this helps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Posted September 23, 2006 Share Posted September 23, 2006 This fits in with the rear lounge models thread that is currently going on. We have a rear lounge in our Hymer B644 and we use it as, strangely, a rear lounge! The bed above the driver’s seat is always made up and very comfortable so we see no reason to change the layout. Regards Frank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris Posted September 23, 2006 Share Posted September 23, 2006 We had bessacar 435 with overcab bed. This was in 2 parts and just adequate even though now I believe the overcab models are fixed bed on gas struts. Would definately recommend BESSACAR TO YOU ANYWAY EVEN THOUGH WE CHANGED OUR MODEL FOR LOWLINE FIXED BED this year. We now have Chausson Allegro 83 and the fixed bed is brilliant. We have long side bed with lift up bed with ample storage but we had to put bike racks on back. As said if you want more room then a bed across the back is the best as long as you do not mind the height of getting in and out. Would recomend fixed bed. Depends if you want to climb ladders too for a fixed bed luton or A class? Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supertractorman Posted September 23, 2006 Share Posted September 23, 2006 My rear lounge is just that in the day, and 2 single beds at night. The overcab bed is our storage area for bedding etc,etc. Leaving the lockers below for storage of other non essential items. Even with everything in we still have unused space. David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
w1ntersun Posted September 23, 2006 Share Posted September 23, 2006 Hi, I have two six foot singles in my rear louge. It is the best of both worlds. You have two settes for lounging ( can,t lounge on most fixed beds ) and can be made up into a large double if required. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanskavan Posted September 24, 2006 Author Share Posted September 24, 2006 Thanks for the reply, one of the choices we are considering is the 795 model. In your opinion can you give the negatives for your unit. Thanks Tony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supertractorman Posted September 24, 2006 Share Posted September 24, 2006 Tanskavan, I am really pleased with my 795, and have no negatives against the van, and neither have I seen anything else I would wish to change it for. The finish is good, no rattles or creaks, not even a problem with wind noise from the cab doors which people complain about. The real bonus for me is being able to stretch out on the backseat for a snooze in the afternoon. Mine is 4 ton model, and I sit happily on the Motorway at 60 - 70mph, although fuel consumption seems best around 58mph, main extra I had fitted was Cruise Control which I wish was standard on vans. David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmac Posted September 24, 2006 Share Posted September 24, 2006 We have the bessacarr 760, plenty of storage nice layout we are to lazy to make a bed up so we opted for the fixed bed only problem is i have trouble getting the wife out or it in the mornings. We use the van all year round as its winterised, although it is quite a big van it holds the road great and been a lowline we tend not to suffer from the side winds as much as our last van. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanskavan Posted September 24, 2006 Author Share Posted September 24, 2006 thanks for info..been to show today at York. Swaying more towards the 760...does 760 come as winterised or is it an extra? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmac Posted September 24, 2006 Share Posted September 24, 2006 Its standard, i think it is because the water tanks and the pipes are internal not sure but i think it is grade 3 (what ever that means).We spend New years in wales and had no problems. The heating system was fine kept us nice and warm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robin Posted September 25, 2006 Share Posted September 25, 2006 Hi, We have just traded in our Bessacarr E735 garage model for a Weinsberg Imperiale. We like the fixed bed and would not consider a motorhome without one. However, I cannot recommend a Bessacarr on the exeperience of our ownership. I have detailed some of my reasons in previous posts. I also note that other owners are satisfied with these 'vans - so it maybe that I have peculiar tastes, or that our 'van was simply a one off. However, I do know that there are others that share my views. I also know that the 'vans have an NCC grade 3 insulation index, but I very much doubt whether that actually means anything in the real world. What it actually means is that the services keep working whilst the 'van is stationary at minus something or other, and give no indication whether the 'van is actually comfortable at those temparatures. I wonder if any of those that are happy with the 'vans have used them in cold weather away from the security of 240 volt hook up? I can tell you that there are howling gales throughout the van from various roof and floor ventilators (and from around the 'fridge until we got Brownhills to seal it properly). The 6kw Truma bolier does provide sufficient heat to counteract, but at a cost of prodigous amounts of LPG. When not on hook up, the bolier also cuts out when the fan wants to run at teh highest setting due to insufficient voltage when more than one light or the TV is on. This despite having the 2*110v leisure batteries fully charged. We consequently could only really use the 'van on 240 volt hook up in the winter and that meant keeping the noisy 240v charger switched on. If you are considering winter use, I would strongly recommend that you look at some of the German, French or Italian 'vans that are actually built for real time winter use. HTH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motorhomefinder Posted September 25, 2006 Share Posted September 25, 2006 We have a 2001 Swift Kontiki Z, with a rear fixed bed, we have found it absolutely fantastic, the best sleep we have ever had, no joints, lumps, legs hanging out, just good sleep. With the blinds shut it is very dark as well, we have slept in until 10 am on quiet sites and wild camping pitches. It is for sale as we have finished a full year or fulltiming and she is now stood idle as we are now campsite wardens. If you want more info just drop an email. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizzy Posted September 25, 2006 Share Posted September 25, 2006 I would LOVE a Kon-tiki Z but hubby thinks it's too long :-( I would snatch it up immediately but as Im' not the one parking/driving it ......... :'( send me details via PM though just for interest - where are you going to be wardens? Hope you have a niced relaxed attitude ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motorhomefinder Posted September 26, 2006 Share Posted September 26, 2006 Hi Lizzy, the Kontiki is 7mtres, 24 foot, i do not find it a problem, but then i have been driving large vehicles all my life, but she has good mirrors and a reversing camera. I find most people get used to the size of their vehicle after a week or so. A good cheapish way to find out about driving a larger van is to rent a small lorry from a van hire company for the weekend, they can be driven on a car licence. Search for my van on freeads.co.uk or email me at steersy@aol.com it is at £31,500ovno but it has everything on it, sat, solar, top box, alarms, door security, inverter, and we are willing to take a PX. We are at Lime Tree Park Buxton, we are quite relaxed and easy going although i have been getting tough with rowdies after 11pm. It's easy to be relaxed when there is no mortgage to pay. :-D :-D ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michele Posted September 26, 2006 Share Posted September 26, 2006 Lizzy, Don't let the girl's down you can drive it . If a man can, I can that's my moto. When we bought our's the man gave the key's to my husband . He shook his head and said no give them to her .. easy ...just get in a drive . Don't let size put you off. I looked at that Double decker bus when I was 21 and that was it hooked even flew a plane (not on my own of course) give it the nike tick JUST DO IT ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clive Posted September 26, 2006 Share Posted September 26, 2006 Fixed bed is a mist for us. Who wants to bugger about making up a bed when you are half pickled or b. tired and irritable? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mel B Posted September 27, 2006 Share Posted September 27, 2006 Clive You getting grumpy in your old age then? We love our fixed bed, the only problem I have is crawling over my husband (and the odd dog occasionally!), to get to the toilet!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Newell Posted September 28, 2006 Share Posted September 28, 2006 Fixed bed or not? Well surely it's a matter of personal preference. We have a 16 year old Highwayman and the main living area becomes the bed at night. We think this gives us the best of all options. We can make two singles, ideal for a late night stopover/early morning getaway as I can walk the dog and get ready to roll without disturbing the missus. The whole lounge area can also very easily be made up into a huge double bed of pornographic proportions (6'X6'6") which gives us both plenty of room. The original cushions did have knee rolls and we had to turn them around for nighttime use so the knee rolls were to the walls. We've recently revamped the 'van including new uphostery (foam and covers) done by my wife and daughter with no knee rolls. It's just as comfy for sitting on but easier at bedtime. The layout is a single dinette on the offside and a 6' settee on the nearside. With the passenger seat swivelled this gives comfortable seating for up to 7 people. All in a 'van of 5445 mm (5.5 Metres) length. Earlier this year we tested the Kimu for MMM. This is a 7 metre 'van with a fixed rear bed above the garage but we found that it had less living space than our own 'van, four people couldn't sit down simultaneously to watch the TV! Sorry that I have no experience of the Bessie model you're looking at. D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mel B Posted September 28, 2006 Share Posted September 28, 2006 Dave You been playing with your tape-measure measuring X-rated beds again??? I'm sure others could think of more fun things to do when presented with such a large bed especially now it doesnt' have lumpy bits!!!! Must admit I do like the old Highwaymans though, lovely vans, there's just something about them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Newell Posted September 28, 2006 Share Posted September 28, 2006 Hi MelB, Yup the old highwayman sure has something about it, mostly damp I think! We love ours but we have just spent 9 months and £3000 on making it (hopefully) watertight! Autohomes were always built down to a price not up to a standard but we like the layout. D. :-) :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bill h Posted September 29, 2006 Share Posted September 29, 2006 Why not have two fixed beds, we have them in the Rapido. One at the back for the lady who goes to bed early and gets up early. It has curtains. One that pulls down from the cab roof that allows me to play computers till 2am then lay in till 10 am next day. That also has a screen. We have space so's we don't annoy each other and she can watch the TV in bed too. During the day anyone can have kip on the rear bed. Another big advantage is that you can always invite another to share the ride and costs. bill h Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enodreven Posted September 30, 2006 Share Posted September 30, 2006 Hi, I found a problem with the 2 seperate bed/seats in the rear lounge model when we actually measured them one was just 6ft long and the other was approx 5ft 9in and both were only approx 2ft 6in wide and i found that they were to short and to narrow for semi full time use ? we found that we really do need the full 6ft 3/6in long bed and as wide as possible ? as 2ft 6in is OK when you don't have a wall to one side ?. Before you buy anything try it out make your bed at home into a simialr size and try and use it ?? most normal beds for the home are at least 6ft 3in long and some are 6ft 6in and most hotel single beds are at least 3 ft wide Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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