Martin-in-Fareham Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 Does anyone know if Elddis motorhome chassis - particularly 2016 models - are strong enough at the rear to take steadies which can be wound down to really remove bounce whenever someone walks around? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sydney1 Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 Can't imagine why they wouldn't so long as used as instructed i.e to steady not jack up. We fitted them on our AT Scout which has a very long overhang and it makes a big difference. Not offered as an extra by the manufacturer or dealer as that would be a strong indication? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek Uzzell Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 Welcome to the Out&AboutLive forums. It would be best if you contacted Elddis itself about this http://www.elddis.co.uk/contact-us or at least an Elddis motorhome dealership. I’m doubtful that any forum member can advise on 2016 models yet, but I note that the 2015 handbooks for the “Accordo” and “Autoquest” ranges both mention checking the condition of corner steadies as one of the annual servicing tasks. This may be a complete red herring, but if Elddis actually does provide corner steadies as standard (or as an option) on their motorhomes (as they used to do in years past) you would know that the current chassis are strong enough and (as Sydney1 says) it would be a fair bet that 2016 chassis would be too. Corner steadies are (as you point out) just intended to stop a motorhome bouncing when parked up. As Sydney1 also advises, steadies should not be used to attempt to level the vehicle and, in principle, should not place a large load on a motorhome’s chassis, though in practice this can happen if the vehicle’s rear wheels sink into soft ground and the feet of the steadies have been well supported. It has to be said though, that if steadies had been securely attached to the motorhome’s main chassis and the chassis proved to be not strong enough to handle any reasonable upwards ’thrust’ when the steadies had been deployed, there would be something seriously wrong with the chassis’s strength. If the steadies had been attached to the motorhome’s floor, well that’s another matter!! Inquiries about retro-fitting corner steadies have come up several times in the past. Browsing through the relevant entries here may be useful https://www.outandaboutlive.co.uk/forums/search/query.asp?action=search&searchforumid=3&searchforumid=16&keywords=corner+steadies&author=&days=&Submit=Search Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebishbus Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 On a camp site in France this year I noticed a M/H with a long rear overhang and no steadies. The owner had used a single scissor jack under the overhang instead. Brian B. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starvin marvin Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 Scissor jacks are great heavy lumps, I guess most people who have toured over the ditch have seen m/her's using a truncated pyrmid jack, rather like an axle stand but much less robust. These have a screwed vertical rod which when wound up to the underside of the van chassis provide support. The last time I saw any for sale was in Spain, when I didn't need them!! anyone know where these are available in the UK? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lennyhb Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 If you fit them you need to make sure you fit the right type and they are fitted correctly so that if you drive away with them down they automatically kick up and don't cause any damage. Don't really see the need for them our van has a large overhang, yes it moves a bit when you walk about or turn over in bed, so what, it's all part of Motorhoming, just adds work. Like to be able to pull up handbrake on, seats swiveled job done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starvin marvin Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 lennyhb - 2015-08-21 10:02 AM If you fit them you need to make sure you fit the right type and they are fitted correctly so that if you drive away with them down they automatically kick up and don't cause any damage. Don't really see the need for them our van has a large overhang, yes it moves a bit when you walk about or turn over in bed, so what, it's all part of Motorhoming, just adds work. Like to be able to pull up handbrake on, seats swiveled job done. Surely there's no wrong way of fitting them just the wrong direction of moving off if you forget to "wind them up", a bit like this forum. I thought I was bone idle but putting steadies down being too much, come on, that's got to be a wind up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brambles Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 " I thought I was bone idle but putting ...." Are you bone idle, or just a lazy jack? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billggski Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 I put the winding handle under the pedals to remind me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayjsj Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 thebishbus - 2015-08-21 8:41 AM On a camp site in France this year I noticed a M/H with a long rear overhang and no steadies. The owner had used a single scissor jack under the overhang instead. Brian B.[/quote rather than pay the large amount that Autotrail wanted to fit rear steadies to our Savannah (large Overhang), I bought a set of alloy Fiamma Jacks (second hand Fleabay). £25. http://www.fiammastore.com/Fiamma-Jacks-and-Steadies-for-caravans-and-motorhomes/Fiamma-Aluminium-Stabilising-Jacks ps, always put them under the chassis, NOT the bodywork, as this old fiamma 'duffer' is doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lennyhb Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 Used to hate that job on caravans certainly not going to do it on a Motorhome, live too short to spend ten minutes a day winding steadies up and down. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayjsj Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 lennyhb - 2015-08-21 2:31 PM Used to hate that job on caravans certainly not going to do it on a Motorhome, live too short to spend ten minutes a day winding steadies up and down. :D Not everyone drives off everyday. This thread is for them. (i Think ?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverback Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 Billggski - 2015-08-21 12:22 PM I put the winding handle under the pedals to remind me. nice one !! never thought of that !! will be doing that in future jon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billggski Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 Learned that one from having a motorbike with a disclock, nothing like revving up and setting off with your front wheel fixed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrevR Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 Just to add that the Elddis Accordo (2015) does not come with corner steadies as standard, or at least, not any that I can see ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 If the chassis isn't strong enough to fit steadies too, an alternative that I saw the other day was steadies fitted to a Hope safety bar ;-) .......... http://www.hope-tecdev.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracker Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 Many years ago I used one of these to steady the van having first used as big an area of 1" marine ply that would fit in to reinforce the under floor to carry the load. It worked! http://www.screwfix.com/p/hilka-pro-craft-2-tonne-bottle-jack/54957 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PJay Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 We have steadies fitted as an "upgrade"spec when we bought the van from Marquis. We find they do make a difference, but I guess the van layout would play a part in this. Our door is near the back, and without the steadies down it dose move about, when getting in/out (again maybe, we are both much to heavy??) Would certainly have them, you can always use an electric drill to wind them PJay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cleddytanhouse Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 I purchased a couple of hydraulic car jacks from Screw Fix for around £15 each. I assume that if I locate them on the MH jack points to steady it, they can do no damage. They are quite compact, but a little heavy I suppose. They do the job for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagHal Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 I fitted to some steadies available from CAK Tanks in Kenilworth. They swing and drop into place and are locked with a tommy bar. 5 seconds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashpark Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 I've got corner steadies on the A/S Neuvo. My wife asked me to wind them down as she said me moving around the van was giving her seasickness (well I think that was what she said *-) ). So I tried it and ......they don't reach the ground 8-) Suppose I'll need to carry a couple of half bricks :-D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrevR Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 Mag&Hal - 2015-10-10 3:46 PM I fitted to some steadies available from CAK Tanks in Kenilworth. They swing and drop into place and are locked with a tommy bar. 5 seconds. Do you have a photo or a link perhaps? Sounds like a good solution for my Accordo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pepe63xnotuse Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 TrevR - 2015-10-11 9:03 AM Mag&Hal - 2015-10-10 3:46 PM I fitted to some steadies available from CAK Tanks in Kenilworth. They swing and drop into place and are locked with a tommy bar. 5 seconds. Do you have a photo or a link perhaps? Sounds like a good solution for my Accordo Would they be these? http://www.caktanks.co.uk/CAK_Exterior.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrevR Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 Thanks Pepe I may give these a try ...depending on price Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 pepe63 - 2015-10-11 9:29 AM TrevR - 2015-10-11 9:03 AM Mag&Hal - 2015-10-10 3:46 PM I fitted to some steadies available from CAK Tanks in Kenilworth. They swing and drop into place and are locked with a tommy bar. 5 seconds. Do you have a photo or a link perhaps? Sounds like a good solution for my Accordo Would they be these? http://www.caktanks.co.uk/CAK_Exterior.htm Eh?...........From their website....... " this stabilising jacks differ from the traditional scissors design and affords notable practical advantages in operation. Just a few seconds are needed to move the jacks into the operating or the stowed travelling position." How many seconds are they going to save....2 to 3 or 4 to 5? :-S ................ Blimey, if I was needing to save that sort of time I'd doubt I'd have time to use a camper (lol) ......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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