carebear Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 Looking to purchase two new 110 leisure batteries, found on Alpha Batteries pair 110 Xplorer Deep Cycle £150, any recommendations welcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gocro Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 Tayna Batteries Varta Proffesional range or Banner ( neither of which are just brand badged starter batteries), remember to check the dimensions before ordering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alanb Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 After seeking advice on this forum I decided upon the Banner Energy Bull range. However the Varta Professional range does have a respectable CCA, and could possibly be used to assist a starter battery via jump leads in an emergency. Also if you use a large inverter the Varta Professional could be the better option Worth thinking about before you part with your cash. After searching around I purchased from Tayna Batteries. It also depends on your usage, if you regularly discharge below 50% then GEL may be a better option, but they make a larger hole in your wallet. Try using the search function for previous threads, there are some informative posts by "Brambles". Alan Alan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carebear Posted September 19, 2015 Author Share Posted September 19, 2015 Thank you will check them out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletguy Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 carebear - 2015-09-19 2:51 PM Looking to purchase two new 110 leisure batteries, found on Alpha Batteries pair 110 Xplorer Deep Cycle £150, any recommendations welcome. I have a 110ah which is practically brand new (3 weeks old) with 2 year warranty. Cost me £109 (receipt to prove) but will let it go for £75. PM me if interested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alanb Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 I should have mentioned that the vent holes on the Banner batteries are none standard. They look like an a slit inside an annular ring. The slit is the actual vent. Tanya offer tubing that will fit into the ring, but from the pictures on their website it looks rather stiff, perhaps nylon or similar material. I managed to progressively drill out the elbows from my old batteries in 0.5 mm increments. Due to the flexing of the plastic I finished up with 4.5 mm hole after using a 5.0 mm drill bit. This resulted in a good push fit into the new Banner batteries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aandncaravan Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 We have a page dedicated to battery Information and technology which we created to help Motorhome owners choose the one that is the most battery charger friendly. We see a lot of setups where the batteries are working well and some where we see repeat issues. We don't sell batteries, so the advice is impartial. The page has a lot of detail on the issues and now has some supporters on here. It has been created with the input of many people. Be careful about recommendations of batteries based on hearsay as it is often the result of good advertising, not technical merit. Banner batteries technology is nothing special, despite what you might read. They get a lot of recommendations, but have you ever seen an independent test showing that they are as good as stated? The Elecsol battery of a few years ago had advertising which became quite extensive and this was just regurgitated by others even though no independent testing was ever done. Within a very short space of time the Forums had postings of Elecsol premature failures at quite low hours. The rest is history. Banner Batteries get a lot of publicity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek Uzzell Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 aandncaravan - 2015-09-22 12:13 AM ...Banner batteries technology is nothing special, despite what you might read. They get a lot of recommendations, but have you ever seen an independent test showing that they are as good as stated?... There have been a couple of (apparently) independent ‘leisure battery’ comparative tests in the past with the results published in specialist magazines. These were referred to in a 2013 forum discussion and you’ll note that Banner products came out well in both instances. http://forums.outandaboutlive.co.uk/forums/Motorhomes/Motorhome-Matters/Leisure-Batteries-Con-/31156/ As stated here https://www.outandaboutlive.co.uk/motorhomes/news/long-awaited-motorhome-battery-scheme-to-be-launched a scheme is to be launched to test and classify leisure-vehicle batteries according to capacity and intended purpose. Hopefully this will reduce some of the soul-searching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aandncaravan Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 We are aware of this exercise. As you wrote after it, "As 4 of the 8 batteries were Banner or Platinum-branded products, this was a pretty limited test". To us it seemed like it pretty much tested only capacity? 4 out of 8 batteries being from just two Manufacturers products suggests it was sponsored by someone who wanted to make a point rather than perform a thorough test? It did not test the following : temperature resilience, Self discharge rate, degradation over time, Cyclic capability or even a basic aspect like safety. All important aspects for a MH owner, but not even mentioned. Like we say on the website, it would be nice to see a proper scientific, independent test that covers all the usual, but especially : Which batteries start Gassing first when the sort of temperatures you get in mid Summer are encountered? Which batteries suffer the greatest fluid loss? Which batteries are prone to blocked Vent Valves and are prone to exploding? Which batteries run down the quickest when left idle? Which batteries make the most of the power put in? It is great having a 100Ah battery that really is 100Ah. However, if you have to put 150Ah into it to get that 100Ah out, it won't be the best buy for a Solar user. They might be better off with a 100Ah battery that only gives back 95Ah but only needs 105Ah to fully charge it? Likewise someone WildCamping will find the 'lower capacity' battery is better for them as it charges more fully when on the move, so more usable in real terms. You shouldn't look at battery capacity in isolation as different users want different characteristics. Until there is a truly Independent test, we will go by what we see works well and what we see doesn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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