leomong Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 Anyone have info on settled cases outcomes will manufacturer allow distributor to put them at risk unsatisfactory /not fit for purpose ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flicka Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 Sales of Goods Act 1979 has now been replaced (2014) by the Consumers Act so cases of outcome of actions under the SOG Act will no longer be relevant today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leomong Posted February 19, 2016 Author Share Posted February 19, 2016 Point of sale new 2012 prior to the consumer act 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayjsj Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 Sale of goods act !!! SOG Doh! And there is me thinking this thread was about motorhome toilets. Silly me. US Badgers prefer a nice latrine, dug well away from the sett. ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
globebuster Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 Not much to go on......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leomong Posted February 20, 2016 Author Share Posted February 20, 2016 Fair point globebuster ,lets give all more to feed on. First reading hearing 3 -5 months involves uk distributor and manufacturer Will request forensic inspection of unit purchased new. 500 leisure miles in 3 years fail to see how this is acceptable unit clock 1700miles. At present this is a claim with a court number not proven struggle to find caselaw and examples the manufacturer has a lot at stake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Kirby Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 I'm afraid I don't begin to understand the question, the nature of the dispute, the timescales, or the circumstances. If you could just set those out, clearly and logically, without naming any of the parties, or the make make/model of the vehicle involved, or being specific as to the actual fault/s, or giving actual dates, it may help. I assume this relates to an unsatisfactory motorhome, so perhaps starting from there? It seems it was new when bought? So, what won't it do? How did the other 1,200 miles arise? Does it sleepwalk? :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Allen Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 Brian, maybe leomong just likes to send us a riddle to see if we can work out the rest. Best ignored if that is the best he can do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leomong Posted February 20, 2016 Author Share Posted February 20, 2016 Well mr brian Kirby you have commented on this MH 2 years ago the other 1200 miles attempting to get repaired.has been back to factory lasted 1 week in talks with dometic/truma Germany,hartel doors,peaugeot,aa,trading standards 23 separate logged complaints,thetford is 30 faults some major grounds for concern maybe I am to tight and do not want to pay the road tax. there you go folks more to feed on the distributor will have to explain this to the judge its all well documented photos Ncc stated gone to far we out,ccc said you on your own john not surprised.Other manufacturers distributors said will not identify we all the same family none of this surprises me that's how it rolls will be at show next week doing undercover research would not be wise to name other parties must have level playing field do it in court. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RogerC Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 I'm sorry to say this but from the OP and subsequent comments from the OP it looks very much like said OP is a concrete product of the 'sound bite' age. I honestly can not follow a single thing you are on about. I get the gist that there is something of a 'legal' bent to the OP first post but after that it makes no sense at all. Maybe that is why whomever the OP is they are is seemingly getting nowhere. Try communicating in English and possibly others might understand you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek Uzzell Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 As the forum user-name “leomong” was only registered on 19 February 2016 and the only postings relating to it are on this thread, and (apparently) Brian Kirby “...commented on this MH 2 years ago...”, it can be concluded that a different forum user-name to “leomong” was being used when Brian commented in the past. Altough the “2 years ago” isn’t right, I’m guessing this is the earlier discussion http://forums.outandaboutlive.co.uk/forums/Motorhomes/Motorhome-Matters/NOT-FIT-FOR-PURPOSE/29547/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulmold Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 I don't think its the same person. The earlier thread is written in good English unlike this lastest one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldi Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 Good morning folks, If I remember correctly the caravan club does not allow sog vents on its sites because of the pong they emit, but I may be wrong and stand corrected. norm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek Uzzell Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 paulmold - 2016-02-21 9:12 AM I don't think its the same person. The earlier thread is written in good English unlike this lastest one. Over to you then, Paul. The thread I provided a link to was more than two years old and the postings of “Michael smith” were more intelligible, but Brian did comment and the complaint made then resembles the complaints made now. Unfortunately my internet search-engine lacks a ‘quality of English’ feature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek Uzzell Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 goldi - 2016-02-21 9:28 AM Good morning folks, If I remember correctly the caravan club does not allow sog vents on its sites because of the pong they emit, but I may be wrong and stand corrected. norm Could be, but I don’t think that’s relevant to the Sale of Goods Act 1979. ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brock Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 Never had an issue with pong or the Caravan Club in the eight years we had a SOG. It might be because we replaced the filter from time to time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brock Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 I suspect the thread will be irrelevant because if the OP cannot write with a sufficient grasp of the english language to enable us to understand the issue, for whatever reasons, then it is possible the OP will not be able to understand any responses relating to the original post. Better for the OP to either seek help with posting or ring the Citizens Advice Bureau. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayjsj Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 goldi - 2016-02-21 9:28 AM Good morning folks, If I remember correctly the caravan club does not allow sog vents on its sites because of the pong they emit, but I may be wrong and stand corrected. norm and they certainly don't allow Badgers to dig their latrines anywhere on their sites.However I think this is a different SOG, (but is beginning to smell like one !!) Why can't folk speak plainly ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donna miller Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 Brock - 2016-02-21 10:43 AM I suspect the thread will be irrelevant because if the OP cannot write with a sufficient grasp of the english language to enable us to understand the issue, for whatever reasons, then it is possible the OP will not be able to understand any responses relating to the original post. Better for the OP to either seek help with posting or ring the Citizens Advice Bureau. Patronising, Much. It's no wonder people are reluctant to ask for advice for fear of the education stazi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracker Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 Criticising the OP is hardly constructive but from what I have read it would seem to me that best advice for him/her would be to consult a lawyer and allow the lawyer to put the case to the dealer on their behalf? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HymerVan Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 I too though SOG referred to casette toilets ! Flicka in a nice way can I say that you are not quite right about the relevance of the Sale of Goods Act 1979. That Act is/was a consolidation of earlier legislation and was also modified along the way by other secondary legislation and as you say has in turn been superseded by The Consumer Rights Act 2015. The origin was the Sale of Goods Act 1893 which must have been devastatingly innovative in its day and introduced among other things the concepts of merchantable quality and fitness for purpose. These concepts live on (in a somewhat expanded form) in the new Act and one of the achievements of the new Act is to set out a specific timetable for the exercise of remedies. So our forefathers in 1893 were pretty far sighted. Lawyers seeking clarification of law and practice in the operation of the new Act may well have recourse to old decisions from 1893 onwards. That is what the dusty old books (or more likely specialised computer services) are for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Kirby Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 leomong - 2016-02-20 8:46 PM Well mr brian Kirby you have commented on this MH 2 years ago the other 1200 miles attempting to get repaired.has been back to factory lasted 1 week in talks with dometic/truma Germany,hartel doors,peaugeot,aa,trading standards 23 separate logged complaints,thetford is 30 faults some major grounds for concern maybe I am to tight and do not want to pay the road tax. there you go folks more to feed on the distributor will have to explain this to the judge its all well documented photos Ncc stated gone to far we out,ccc said you on your own john not surprised.Other manufacturers distributors said will not identify we all the same family none of this surprises me that's how it rolls will be at show next week doing undercover research would not be wise to name other parties must have level playing field do it in court. I may have commented two years ago but, sadly for me, I have commented on many things since, and I lack a photographic memory! Also, it seems you have signed on under a new forum name, so I cannot connect your present name to your previous post. What name did you previously use? Clearly you have quite a problem, but is still isn't clear to me what, if anything, you want from us? How can we help? I apologise, but if you have already taken legal advice, why not rely on your solicitor? If you have not taken legal advice, I really think you should, as what you have written is, I regret, very difficult to understand. It would not be a good basis on which to present your case to an arbitration or conciliation hearing, or a court. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brock Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 Ouch, Donna. I'm not asking for a perfect post in English grammar. I am simply asking the OP to phrase the post so that we can understand it. There is a difference between the two. If the OP can do that, we can respond appropriately. We have given the OP very little advice but the Citizens Advice Bureau should be able to do more. Still, if you feel patronised, sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Kirby Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 It is possible that the OP's personal circumstances have changed over the past three years. If so, always assuming it is the same poster, that change may have influenced the way he now writes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebishbus Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 Perhaps the OP's first language is not English.! Brian B. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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