Barcobird Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 Another question for you well informed travellers, we will be travelling through France Spain and Portugal ( to begin with) and will be using various Aires etc etc. Would we be better buying the Aires of France and the Aires of Portugal and Spain or the camper stop Europe. Do we need both, or do they duplicate each other if so which would be best ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracker Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 Opinions will be varied, as ever, but having travelled a lot for some 12 years without using sites we have found that a combination of the various Vicarious books Aires guides and Camperstop Euope to be as good a combination as any. They do cost more than many guides but particularly the Vicarious books are easy to follow and about as accurate and up to date as you will find and that alone is worth it's price when you have covered a lot of miles. But that is just a personal view based on our experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agaric Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 I used the vicarious books this year, one site was closed and had been for some time, three others had the wrong map reference. It was lucky I have this on my laptop and phone, www.campingcar-infos.com/index.php Map references were correct as this is the site the French use, many other countries are also on this site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek Uzzell Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 Barcobird Advantages of the website Agaric mentions are that it tends to be kept up to date and that it includes places where motorhomes are permitted to park (or where their parking is tolerated) as well as ‘aires’ on campsites or elsewhere where water-refilling and waste/toilet emptying can be carried out. The website currently has 780 references for Spain and 352 for Portugal. http://www.campingcar-infos.com/Francais/cci.php?pays=ESPAGNE http://www.campingcar-infos.com/Francais/cci.php?pays=PORTUGAL As this is a French website, comments are primarily in that language. I notice that the website has an entry for the campsite at Monchique that you had trouble locating via your sat-nav. There’s a 30 June 2016 comment warning that it may not be easy to find. GPS coordinates are provided relating to a turn-off from the main road and evidently one then has to drive a further 1.5km on an unmetalled track to the campsite itself. Viewing the entyr’s Google map seems to confirm this, with the track leading from the N266 to the campsite being pretty twisty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spireite Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 As Christmas is just over the horizon it might be a good idea to add the Aires books to your Santa Claus list. Also have a look at - www.campercontact.com - to put on any electronic electronic devices you might have – thousands of up-to-date Aires with reviews at the touch of a button. And don't forget to join the underused Pilote Owners forum - every little helps! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aandy Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 If you go for All the Aires France, and don't need it straight away, bear in mind that a new edition will be published early next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witzend Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 Camper contact is worth a look as is search for sites but I find most guides are out dated by the time we get them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracker Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 Not everyone realises that there are free updates to all the Aires guides. http://www.vicariousbooks.co.uk/guide_updates.shtml The trouble with online guides is that one often needs to be onine and that is not always easy or even posssible. For us there is something more relaxing about thumbing through a proper book and placing a bookmark by those that appeal! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bojitoes Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 Thanks Rich, I didn't know that. I have just updated my book! Thanks again bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barcobird Posted November 8, 2016 Author Share Posted November 8, 2016 Thank you all for taking the time to give me you informative feedback. So in a nutshell (it's a large nut) :-D By all the books you can Download all the apps you can Go on all the websites you can find Don't buy books for Christmas because the new edition comes out early in the year. Make sure you have internet so you can check on any updates and also when you have chosen a destination, that's it's still there, in the right location and not 2klm's up the road and it's open *-) (lol) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spireite Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 We went to an Aire in Brittany a few years ago and found it had closed down and the land had been built on. We informed Vicarious but it was still in the Guide the following year – check and double check until you're sure it's okay! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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