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Barryd999 - 2016-11-19 11:31 PM

 

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antony1969 - 2016-11-19 2:06 PM

 

He's no angel I'm sure ... Sex offences are very difficult to prove I totally agree ... To be fair I don't believe any of the sex claims ... His locker room talk was just that for me , you need to work in some of the mills I've done repairs on ... The women say much worse trust me and touch and feel at will in my experience ... If I thought he was a sex pest I certainly wouldn't have donated to his campaign like I did

 

I've no time for this feminist holier than thou tosh *-) ........

 

Obviously they've never been amongst a load of female hairdresser's, nurse's or WREN's or heard the feedback from a hen night or Anne Summers party 8-) ......

 

They may say worse and banter is banter but believe me I am no prude and ive certainly experienced a bit of "life" shall we say but the tones and insinuation of what he said to me were at best a bit dodgy and at worse verging on pretty much admitting assault / abuse. It just sounded a bit rapey to me.

 

If I had been out with any of my friends and somebody had claimed they can just grab who they like by the "P",, do what they like because of who they are etc it would have sent alarm bells ringing to be honest. Nobody I know would talk about women like that and as I said ive not led a sheltered life but I am a big believer in something called consent.

 

I suspect Antony that what you dismiss as mere “locker room talk” from the President-elect you would condemn as indicative of the attitudes of all Muslims towards women if the same words were uttered by the Mayor of London.

 

As for the conduct of some women towards some men in the mills to which you alluded- isn’t such conduct base and offensive regardless of the gender of the perpetrator? We’ve come a long way I hope from believing that only men can be sex pests.

 

I’m curious as to how Dave P receives feedback from Ann Summers’ parties but let’s not go there or Duncan may have to pull this thread again.

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Veronica

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pelmetman - 2016-11-20 8:42 AM

 

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antony1969 - 2016-11-19 2:06 PM

 

He's no angel I'm sure ... Sex offences are very difficult to prove I totally agree ... To be fair I don't believe any of the sex claims ... His locker room talk was just that for me , you need to work in some of the mills I've done repairs on ... The women say much worse trust me and touch and feel at will in my experience ... If I thought he was a sex pest I certainly wouldn't have donated to his campaign like I did

 

I've no time for this feminist holier than thou tosh *-) ........

 

Obviously they've never been amongst a load of female hairdresser's, nurse's or WREN's or heard the feedback from a hen night or Anne Summers party 8-) ......

 

They may say worse and banter is banter but believe me I am no prude and ive certainly experienced a bit of "life" shall we say but the tones and insinuation of what he said to me were at best a bit dodgy and at worse verging on pretty much admitting assault / abuse. It just sounded a bit rapey to me.

 

If I had been out with any of my friends and somebody had claimed they can just grab who they like by the "P",, do what they like because of who they are etc it would have sent alarm bells ringing to be honest. Nobody I know would talk about women like that and as I said ive not led a sheltered life but I am a big believer in something called consent.

 

So is he worse or better than our own Mr Vaz or Bill Clinton eh? >:-) ........

 

"Actions speak louder than words" is the saying I believe ;-) .......

 

 

I dont know. I havent really looked into what Clinton or Vaz have allegedly done. I understand Vaz was involved with Male prostitutes and Clinton I gather has put it about a bit as well and was also accused of rape. Trump I think used sexual allegations brought against Clinton to smear Hillary's campaign which is a bit pot and kettle but thats American Politics for you.

 

I think its pretty clear what kind of person Trump is. I certainly wouldnt leave my wife or young daughter alone with him or Clinton to be honest although looking at them both these days Id be surprised if either could manage it.

 

 

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Violet1956 - 2016-11-20 10:05 AM

 

I’m curious as to how Dave P receives feedback from Ann Summers’ parties but let’s not go there or Duncan may have to pull this thread again.

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Veronica

 

He's an agent for Ann Summer, from what I've heard.......I believe he does a good line in lace Y fronts. 8-)

 

Why is there so much fuss about Don saying he grabs ladies P****. A bit rough I admit (the action...not the wife) but I hold my wifes Palm loads of times B-)

 

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pelmetman - 2016-11-20 8:42 AM.......................So is he worse or better than our own Mr Vaz or Bill Clinton eh? >:-) ........

Pardon me for intruding again, but what difference would it make either way? How does comparing one person's misdemeanours with those of another alter the seriousness of what was said/done? What you are left with is three people whose judgement is deeply flawed. Using two rogues as character referees for a third ain't much of a defence, especially when they exert such influence over others. Trump's only saving grace is that he is condemned out of his own mouth. Whether that is such a smart move I'll leave you good folks to ponder! :-D

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Barryd999 - 2016-11-19 11:31 PM

 

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antony1969 - 2016-11-19 2:06 PM

 

He's no angel I'm sure ... Sex offences are very difficult to prove I totally agree ... To be fair I don't believe any of the sex claims ... His locker room talk was just that for me , you need to work in some of the mills I've done repairs on ... The women say much worse trust me and touch and feel at will in my experience ... If I thought he was a sex pest I certainly wouldn't have donated to his campaign like I did

 

I've no time for this feminist holier than thou tosh *-) ........

 

Obviously they've never been amongst a load of female hairdresser's, nurse's or WREN's or heard the feedback from a hen night or Anne Summers party 8-) ......

 

They may say worse and banter is banter but believe me I am no prude and ive certainly experienced a bit of "life" shall we say but the tones and insinuation of what he said to me were at best a bit dodgy and at worse verging on pretty much admitting assault / abuse. It just sounded a bit rapey to me.

 

If I had been out with any of my friends and somebody had claimed they can just grab who they like by the "P",, do what they like because of who they are etc it would have sent alarm bells ringing to be honest. Nobody I know would talk about women like that and as I said ive not led a sheltered life but I am a big believer in something called consent.

 

I suspect Antony that what you dismiss as mere “locker room talk” from the President-elect you would condemn as indicative of the attitudes of all Muslims towards women if the same words were uttered by the Mayor of London.

 

As for the conduct of some women towards some men in the mills to which you alluded- isn’t such conduct base and offensive regardless of the gender of the perpetrator? We’ve come a long way I hope from believing that only men can be sex pests.

 

I’m curious as to how Dave P receives feedback from Ann Summers’ parties but let’s not go there or Duncan may have to pull this thread again.

;-)

 

Veronica

 

Ive said what I believe his comments added up to Violet ... It may not be what your used to listening to and not all fellas talk like that ... In my world they do and its all male bravado ... You think Kennedy , Johnson and Clinton didn't say the odd dirty word when on the prowl ... Your Muslim comment doesn't add up , Trump was talking about grown women not youngsters

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antony1969 - 2016-11-20 6:31 PM

 

Violet1956 - 2016-11-20 10:05 AM

 

Barryd999 - 2016-11-19 11:31 PM

 

pelmetman - 2016-11-19 4:59 PM

 

antony1969 - 2016-11-19 2:06 PM

 

He's no angel I'm sure ... Sex offences are very difficult to prove I totally agree ... To be fair I don't believe any of the sex claims ... His locker room talk was just that for me , you need to work in some of the mills I've done repairs on ... The women say much worse trust me and touch and feel at will in my experience ... If I thought he was a sex pest I certainly wouldn't have donated to his campaign like I did

 

I've no time for this feminist holier than thou tosh *-) ........

 

Obviously they've never been amongst a load of female hairdresser's, nurse's or WREN's or heard the feedback from a hen night or Anne Summers party 8-) ......

 

They may say worse and banter is banter but believe me I am no prude and ive certainly experienced a bit of "life" shall we say but the tones and insinuation of what he said to me were at best a bit dodgy and at worse verging on pretty much admitting assault / abuse. It just sounded a bit rapey to me.

 

If I had been out with any of my friends and somebody had claimed they can just grab who they like by the "P",, do what they like because of who they are etc it would have sent alarm bells ringing to be honest. Nobody I know would talk about women like that and as I said ive not led a sheltered life but I am a big believer in something called consent.

 

I suspect Antony that what you dismiss as mere “locker room talk” from the President-elect you would condemn as indicative of the attitudes of all Muslims towards women if the same words were uttered by the Mayor of London.

 

As for the conduct of some women towards some men in the mills to which you alluded- isn’t such conduct base and offensive regardless of the gender of the perpetrator? We’ve come a long way I hope from believing that only men can be sex pests.

 

I’m curious as to how Dave P receives feedback from Ann Summers’ parties but let’s not go there or Duncan may have to pull this thread again.

;-)

 

Veronica

 

Ive said what I believe his comments added up to Violet ... It may not be what your used to listening to and not all fellas talk like that ... In my world they do and its all male bravado ... You think Kennedy , Johnson and Clinton didn't say the odd dirty word when on the prowl ... Your Muslim comment doesn't add up , Trump was talking about grown women not youngsters

 

Ah silly me, that makes it OK then 8o|

 

Veronica

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Violet1956 - 2016-11-20 8:32 PM

 

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Violet1956 - 2016-11-20 10:05 AM

 

Barryd999 - 2016-11-19 11:31 PM

 

pelmetman - 2016-11-19 4:59 PM

 

antony1969 - 2016-11-19 2:06 PM

 

He's no angel I'm sure ... Sex offences are very difficult to prove I totally agree ... To be fair I don't believe any of the sex claims ... His locker room talk was just that for me , you need to work in some of the mills I've done repairs on ... The women say much worse trust me and touch and feel at will in my experience ... If I thought he was a sex pest I certainly wouldn't have donated to his campaign like I did

 

I've no time for this feminist holier than thou tosh *-) ........

 

Obviously they've never been amongst a load of female hairdresser's, nurse's or WREN's or heard the feedback from a hen night or Anne Summers party 8-) ......

 

They may say worse and banter is banter but believe me I am no prude and ive certainly experienced a bit of "life" shall we say but the tones and insinuation of what he said to me were at best a bit dodgy and at worse verging on pretty much admitting assault / abuse. It just sounded a bit rapey to me.

 

If I had been out with any of my friends and somebody had claimed they can just grab who they like by the "P",, do what they like because of who they are etc it would have sent alarm bells ringing to be honest. Nobody I know would talk about women like that and as I said ive not led a sheltered life but I am a big believer in something called consent.

 

I suspect Antony that what you dismiss as mere “locker room talk” from the President-elect you would condemn as indicative of the attitudes of all Muslims towards women if the same words were uttered by the Mayor of London.

 

As for the conduct of some women towards some men in the mills to which you alluded- isn’t such conduct base and offensive regardless of the gender of the perpetrator? We’ve come a long way I hope from believing that only men can be sex pests.

 

I’m curious as to how Dave P receives feedback from Ann Summers’ parties but let’s not go there or Duncan may have to pull this thread again.

;-)

 

Veronica

 

Ive said what I believe his comments added up to Violet ... It may not be what your used to listening to and not all fellas talk like that ... In my world they do and its all male bravado ... You think Kennedy , Johnson and Clinton didn't say the odd dirty word when on the prowl ... Your Muslim comment doesn't add up , Trump was talking about grown women not youngsters

 

Ah silly me, that makes it OK then 8o|

 

Veronica

 

No not silly at all ... Your just making a mountain out of a mole hill thats all

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bigparkie - 2016-11-21 7:05 AM

 

Perverts are perverts no matter what colour,creed,religion or sex they are.

Richard

 

How do you define a pervert ... For me its not someone who in a private conversation throws out a bit of male bragging ... if a fella is a pervert for that then what about eyeing up a stunner on the beach while the missus isn't looking ... Watching a stripper ... Paying for a ladies pleasures ... Viewing pornography on the web or if it was back in the day a top shelf mag ... I think all us fellas might be guilty of at least one of those things , some more ... Maybe fellas are just natural perverts

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antony1969 - 2016-11-21 10:04 AM

 

bigparkie - 2016-11-21 7:05 AM

 

Perverts are perverts no matter what colour,creed,religion or sex they are.

Richard

 

How do you define a pervert ... For me its not someone who in a private conversation throws out a bit of male bragging ... if a fella is a pervert for that then what about eyeing up a stunner on the beach while the missus isn't looking ... Watching a stripper ... Paying for a ladies pleasures ... Viewing pornography on the web or if it was back in the day a top shelf mag ... I think all us fellas might be guilty of at least one of those things , some more ... Maybe fellas are just natural perverts

 

A bit of male bragging? Stating that because of who you are its ok just to go up and grab women by the "P" and that you can do what you like to them because of who you are is just bragging? I would be a bit suspect if any of my mates came out with something like that and even more suspect if I later discovered several allegations of sexual assault against them including a child. Even his previous wife accused him of being violent and raping her although she later drummed it down to saying she felt raped and violated.

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bigparkie - 2016-11-21 7:05 AM

 

Perverts are perverts no matter what colour,creed,religion or sex they are.

Richard

 

How do you define a pervert ... For me its not someone who in a private conversation throws out a bit of male bragging ... if a fella is a pervert for that then what about eyeing up a stunner on the beach while the missus isn't looking ... Watching a stripper ... Paying for a ladies pleasures ... Viewing pornography on the web or if it was back in the day a top shelf mag ... I think all us fellas might be guilty of at least one of those things , some more ... Maybe fellas are just natural perverts

 

A bit of male bragging? Stating that because of who you are its ok just to go up and grab women by the "P" and that you can do what you like to them because of who you are is just bragging? I would be a bit suspect if any of my mates came out with something like that and even more suspect if I later discovered several allegations of sexual assault against them including a child. Even his previous wife accused him of being violent and raping her although she later drummed it down to saying she felt raped and violated.

 

Forget innocent till proven guilty then eh Barry ... Cliff Richards guilty as sin in your eyes then ... Someone claiming something against a high profile billionaire and it not going to court has to be viewed with caution ... All you know is a headline ... I know you can't stand the fella but try and take the blinkers off , surely at least one of these alleged incidents out of the many would have resulted in at the very least one court case ???

Regarding his bragging , ye once again its bragging ... I know us building trade workers are all a set of thick , gullible dummies and so therefore we have an excuse for such talk because we don't know any better but you want to come and listen to some scaffold banter ... Mind you'd better not you'll be calling em all racist too I imagine

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antony1969 - 2016-11-21 10:04 AM

 

bigparkie - 2016-11-21 7:05 AM

 

Perverts are perverts no matter what colour,creed,religion or sex they are.

Richard

 

How do you define a pervert ... For me its not someone who in a private conversation throws out a bit of male bragging ... if a fella is a pervert for that then what about eyeing up a stunner on the beach while the missus isn't looking ... Watching a stripper ... Paying for a ladies pleasures ... Viewing pornography on the web or if it was back in the day a top shelf mag ... I think all us fellas might be guilty of at least one of those things , some more ... Maybe fellas are just natural perverts

 

A bit of male bragging? Stating that because of who you are its ok just to go up and grab women by the "P" and that you can do what you like to them because of who you are is just bragging? I would be a bit suspect if any of my mates came out with something like that and even more suspect if I later discovered several allegations of sexual assault against them including a child. Even his previous wife accused him of being violent and raping her although she later drummed it down to saying she felt raped and violated.

 

Forget innocent till proven guilty then eh Barry ... Cliff Richards guilty as sin in your eyes then ... Someone claiming something against a high profile billionaire and it not going to court has to be viewed with caution ... All you know is a headline ... I know you can't stand the fella but try and take the blinkers off , surely at least one of these alleged incidents out of the many would have resulted in at the very least one court case ???

Regarding his bragging , ye once again its bragging ... I know us building trade workers are all a set of thick , gullible dummies and so therefore we have an excuse for such talk because we don't know any better but you want to come and listen to some scaffold banter ... Mind you'd better not you'll be calling em all racist too I imagine

 

Ive worked on building sites Antony and with loads of construction companies. One of my best customers runs a big quarry full of big sweary blokes that like to banter so I know exactly what its like, I look forward to going there as its a laugh a minute. I know for a fact that if any of them came out with stuff like that I am pretty sure it would be met with at best stony silence.

 

Yes I do believe in innocent until proven guilty of course and being a billionaire is bound to attract chancers but on the other side of the coin being a billionaire could also buy you a lot of silence and some pretty good lawyers.

 

Whether he has done any of the things people have alleged he has I dont know, perhaps not but as far as his qualities as a human being go I think its fair to say he has very few good ones. Time will tell but I suspect he wont get to serve a full term. People like him will eventually come unstuck. Mind you I agree with you one thing. The alternative at this moment in time "Clinton" may have turned out to be even worse.

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Barryd999 - 2016-11-21 11:22 AM

 

antony1969 - 2016-11-21 10:04 AM

 

bigparkie - 2016-11-21 7:05 AM

 

Perverts are perverts no matter what colour,creed,religion or sex they are.

Richard

 

How do you define a pervert ... For me its not someone who in a private conversation throws out a bit of male bragging ... if a fella is a pervert for that then what about eyeing up a stunner on the beach while the missus isn't looking ... Watching a stripper ... Paying for a ladies pleasures ... Viewing pornography on the web or if it was back in the day a top shelf mag ... I think all us fellas might be guilty of at least one of those things , some more ... Maybe fellas are just natural perverts

 

A bit of male bragging? Stating that because of who you are its ok just to go up and grab women by the "P" and that you can do what you like to them because of who you are is just bragging? I would be a bit suspect if any of my mates came out with something like that and even more suspect if I later discovered several allegations of sexual assault against them including a child. Even his previous wife accused him of being violent and raping her although she later drummed it down to saying she felt raped and violated.

 

Forget innocent till proven guilty then eh Barry ... Cliff Richards guilty as sin in your eyes then ... Someone claiming something against a high profile billionaire and it not going to court has to be viewed with caution ... All you know is a headline ... I know you can't stand the fella but try and take the blinkers off , surely at least one of these alleged incidents out of the many would have resulted in at the very least one court case ???

Regarding his bragging , ye once again its bragging ... I know us building trade workers are all a set of thick , gullible dummies and so therefore we have an excuse for such talk because we don't know any better but you want to come and listen to some scaffold banter ... Mind you'd better not you'll be calling em all racist too I imagine

 

Ive worked on building sites Antony and with loads of construction companies. One of my best customers runs a big quarry full of big sweary blokes that like to banter so I know exactly what its like, I look forward to going there as its a laugh a minute. I know for a fact that if any of them came out with stuff like that I am pretty sure it would be met with at best stony silence.

 

Yes I do believe in innocent until proven guilty of course and being a billionaire is bound to attract chancers but on the other side of the coin being a billionaire could also buy you a lot of silence and some pretty good lawyers.

 

Whether he has done any of the things people have alleged he has I dont know, perhaps not but as far as his qualities as a human being go I think its fair to say he has very few good ones. Time will tell but I suspect he wont get to serve a full term. People like him will eventually come unstuck. Mind you I agree with you one thing. The alternative at this moment in time "Clinton" may have turned out to be even worse.

 

Well like you say you don't have a clue wether he's guilty or not ... He's certainly not guilty in the eyes of the law ... How long he'll serve time will tell , many said he'd not win the election but he did so he's already proving many folk wrong ... You might have worked on building sites Barry but don't insult me and say you've regularly been up the scaffold with the lads and become part of the crack ... Ive worked on a lot more sites than you have and Im sure I know the banter , the jokes , the tricks and leg pulling that goes on more than yourself ... Suppose you never heard any racist or sexist jokes either ??

A quarry by the way is not a building site

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pelmetman - 2016-11-20 8:42 AM.......................So is he worse or better than our own Mr Vaz or Bill Clinton eh? >:-) ........

Pardon me for intruding again, but what difference would it make either way? How does comparing one person's misdemeanours with those of another alter the seriousness of what was said/done? What you are left with is three people whose judgement is deeply flawed. Using two rogues as character referees for a third ain't much of a defence, especially when they exert such influence over others. Trump's only saving grace is that he is condemned out of his own mouth. Whether that is such a smart move I'll leave you good folks to ponder! :-D

 

Which is very much the point ;-) .......

 

The Trump haters are trying to make a big deal out of what Trump "said".......whilst ignoring that Clinton & Mr Vaseline have actually been caught in the act *-) ......

 

Just highlighting the hypocrisy of those trying to adopt the moral high ground ;-) ..........

 

 

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Barryd999 - 2016-11-21 11:22 AM

 

antony1969 - 2016-11-21 10:04 AM

 

bigparkie - 2016-11-21 7:05 AM

 

Perverts are perverts no matter what colour,creed,religion or sex they are.

Richard

 

How do you define a pervert ... For me its not someone who in a private conversation throws out a bit of male bragging ... if a fella is a pervert for that then what about eyeing up a stunner on the beach while the missus isn't looking ... Watching a stripper ... Paying for a ladies pleasures ... Viewing pornography on the web or if it was back in the day a top shelf mag ... I think all us fellas might be guilty of at least one of those things , some more ... Maybe fellas are just natural perverts

 

A bit of male bragging? Stating that because of who you are its ok just to go up and grab women by the "P" and that you can do what you like to them because of who you are is just bragging? I would be a bit suspect if any of my mates came out with something like that and even more suspect if I later discovered several allegations of sexual assault against them including a child. Even his previous wife accused him of being violent and raping her although she later drummed it down to saying she felt raped and violated.

 

Forget innocent till proven guilty then eh Barry ... Cliff Richards guilty as sin in your eyes then ... Someone claiming something against a high profile billionaire and it not going to court has to be viewed with caution ... All you know is a headline ... I know you can't stand the fella but try and take the blinkers off , surely at least one of these alleged incidents out of the many would have resulted in at the very least one court case ???

Regarding his bragging , ye once again its bragging ... I know us building trade workers are all a set of thick , gullible dummies and so therefore we have an excuse for such talk because we don't know any better but you want to come and listen to some scaffold banter ... Mind you'd better not you'll be calling em all racist too I imagine

 

Ive worked on building sites Antony and with loads of construction companies. One of my best customers runs a big quarry full of big sweary blokes that like to banter so I know exactly what its like, I look forward to going there as its a laugh a minute. I know for a fact that if any of them came out with stuff like that I am pretty sure it would be met with at best stony silence.

 

Yes I do believe in innocent until proven guilty of course and being a billionaire is bound to attract chancers but on the other side of the coin being a billionaire could also buy you a lot of silence and some pretty good lawyers.

 

Whether he has done any of the things people have alleged he has I dont know, perhaps not but as far as his qualities as a human being go I think its fair to say he has very few good ones. Time will tell but I suspect he wont get to serve a full term. People like him will eventually come unstuck. Mind you I agree with you one thing. The alternative at this moment in time "Clinton" may have turned out to be even worse.

 

Well like you say you don't have a clue wether he's guilty or not ... He's certainly not guilty in the eyes of the law ... How long he'll serve time will tell , many said he'd not win the election but he did so he's already proving many folk wrong ... You might have worked on building sites Barry but don't insult me and say you've regularly been up the scaffold with the lads and become part of the crack ... Ive worked on a lot more sites than you have and Im sure I know the banter , the jokes , the tricks and leg pulling that goes on more than yourself ... Suppose you never heard any racist or sexist jokes either ??

A quarry by the way is not a building site

 

Is there another level of crack up the scaffold Antony that those on the ground are not privy to? :D I did say I had worked on a variety of construction sites as well as a quarry. They have very similar banter. You wont believe this but I actually did work for my best mates building company for an entire summer when I was at college. I was very good at demolition but fecking hopeless at actually doing anything constructive. Yes plenty of racist and sexist jokes but they are not exclusive to builders. Plenty of that in offices as well. Most of it is a good laugh as is bragging about sexual encounters unless they sound a bit "rapey" like Trumps do.

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With any luck Duncan will delete this thread too and explain that you really don't need to keep on cutting and pasting reams of previous postings just to make a reply, particularly a one sentence reply.

 

Unless of course their memory span is so poor that without something to refer to they forget what they wanted to say?

 

 

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Barryd999 - 2016-11-21 11:22 AM

 

antony1969 - 2016-11-21 10:04 AM

 

bigparkie - 2016-11-21 7:05 AM

 

Perverts are perverts no matter what colour,creed,religion or sex they are.

Richard

 

How do you define a pervert ... For me its not someone who in a private conversation throws out a bit of male bragging ... if a fella is a pervert for that then what about eyeing up a stunner on the beach while the missus isn't looking ... Watching a stripper ... Paying for a ladies pleasures ... Viewing pornography on the web or if it was back in the day a top shelf mag ... I think all us fellas might be guilty of at least one of those things , some more ... Maybe fellas are just natural perverts

 

A bit of male bragging? Stating that because of who you are its ok just to go up and grab women by the "P" and that you can do what you like to them because of who you are is just bragging? I would be a bit suspect if any of my mates came out with something like that and even more suspect if I later discovered several allegations of sexual assault against them including a child. Even his previous wife accused him of being violent and raping her although she later drummed it down to saying she felt raped and violated.

 

Forget innocent till proven guilty then eh Barry ... Cliff Richards guilty as sin in your eyes then ... Someone claiming something against a high profile billionaire and it not going to court has to be viewed with caution ... All you know is a headline ... I know you can't stand the fella but try and take the blinkers off , surely at least one of these alleged incidents out of the many would have resulted in at the very least one court case ???

Regarding his bragging , ye once again its bragging ... I know us building trade workers are all a set of thick , gullible dummies and so therefore we have an excuse for such talk because we don't know any better but you want to come and listen to some scaffold banter ... Mind you'd better not you'll be calling em all racist too I imagine

 

Ive worked on building sites Antony and with loads of construction companies. One of my best customers runs a big quarry full of big sweary blokes that like to banter so I know exactly what its like, I look forward to going there as its a laugh a minute. I know for a fact that if any of them came out with stuff like that I am pretty sure it would be met with at best stony silence.

 

Yes I do believe in innocent until proven guilty of course and being a billionaire is bound to attract chancers but on the other side of the coin being a billionaire could also buy you a lot of silence and some pretty good lawyers.

 

Whether he has done any of the things people have alleged he has I dont know, perhaps not but as far as his qualities as a human being go I think its fair to say he has very few good ones. Time will tell but I suspect he wont get to serve a full term. People like him will eventually come unstuck. Mind you I agree with you one thing. The alternative at this moment in time "Clinton" may have turned out to be even worse.

 

Well like you say you don't have a clue wether he's guilty or not ... He's certainly not guilty in the eyes of the law ... How long he'll serve time will tell , many said he'd not win the election but he did so he's already proving many folk wrong ... You might have worked on building sites Barry but don't insult me and say you've regularly been up the scaffold with the lads and become part of the crack ... Ive worked on a lot more sites than you have and Im sure I know the banter , the jokes , the tricks and leg pulling that goes on more than yourself ... Suppose you never heard any racist or sexist jokes either ??

A quarry by the way is not a building site

 

Is there another level of crack up the scaffold Antony that those on the ground are not privy to? :D I did say I had worked on a variety of construction sites as well as a quarry. They have very similar banter. You wont believe this but I actually did work for my best mates building company for an entire summer when I was at college. I was very good at demolition but fecking hopeless at actually doing anything constructive. Yes plenty of racist and sexist jokes but they are not exclusive to builders. Plenty of that in offices as well. Most of it is a good laugh as is bragging about sexual encounters unless they sound a bit "rapey" like Trumps do.

 

If you think that's a bit rapey I wouldn't want you out on a night with some of my lot ... Think you might of blushed a bit in the company of some of those mill girls too ... Up the scaffold is where the men are by the way , the wet youth labourers are on the floor loading up ... You stick with the boys Barry , might be safer for ya and the rest of us if your demotion skills are so good ... Be interesting to know when a racist or sexist joke becomes unacceptable

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Heil Trump!! *-)

 

American Nazi white supremacists salute their Führer after a speech by Richard Spencer, a known white supremacist who has called for "a white homeland for the dispossessed white race" and aims to achieve it by 'peaceful' ethnic cleansing.

 

Spencer got kicked out of Hungary, is banned from 26 European countries and refused entry to the UK.

 

Trump released a vague statement denouncing "racism of any kind".

 

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/11/richard-spencer-speech-npi/508379/?utm_source=twb

 

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/alt-right-leader-shouts-hail-trump-people-nazi-salutes-article-1.2882855

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Heil Trump!! *-)

 

American Nazi white supremacists salute their Führer after a speech by Richard Spencer, a known white supremacist who has called for "a white homeland for the dispossessed white race" and aims to achieve it by 'peaceful' ethnic cleansing.

 

Spencer got kicked out of Hungary, is banned from 26 European countries and refused entry to the UK.

 

Trump released a vague statement denouncing "racism of any kind".

 

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/11/richard-spencer-speech-npi/508379/?utm_source=twb

 

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/alt-right-leader-shouts-hail-trump-people-nazi-salutes-article-1.2882855

 

Christ! Proper Nazis. :'( I love this bit. "America was until this past generation a white country". 6.6 million native Americans might argue differently.

 

Are these the kind of people those who voted for Trump or indeed those who support the rise of the far right in Europe want to gain power? Heaven help us all.

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Barryd999 - 2016-11-22 9:06 PM

 

Christ! Proper Nazis. :'( I love this bit. "America was until this past generation a white country". 6.6 million native Americans might argue differently.

 

They airbush that out. Look back to Jacksons "Trail of Tears" i linked before. That's where the hatred began.

http://www.history.com/topics/native-american-history/trail-of-tears

 

Are these the kind of people those who voted for Trump or indeed those who support the rise of the far right in Europe want to gain power? Heaven help us all.

 

Both.

 

Very sick people with twisted minds who think the way forward is going backwards. Parts of Germany and Poland still have lunatics like this but believe me, you really don't want to meet them. They are not very pleasant people.

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Barryd999 - 2016-11-22 9:06 PM

 

Christ! Proper Nazis. :'( I love this bit. "America was until this past generation a white country". 6.6 million native Americans might argue differently.

 

They airbush that out. Look back to Jacksons "Trail of Tears" i linked before. That's where the hatred began.

http://www.history.com/topics/native-american-history/trail-of-tears

 

Are these the kind of people those who voted for Trump or indeed those who support the rise of the far right in Europe want to gain power? Heaven help us all.

 

Both.

 

Very sick people with twisted minds who think the way forward is going backwards. Parts of Germany and Poland still have lunatics like this but believe me, you really don't want to meet them. They are not very pleasant people.

 

Jackson's trail of tears could well repeat itself. Its one thing people saying that trump getting in or Brexit is the voice of the people being heard but do the people really want to see evil twisted scum like the ones in that video rising up and taking power? Maybe they do, Im just lost and bewildered with it all to be honest.

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Barry likes to keep mentioning the alleged child rape committed by Mr Trump ... No police action or court case was ever taken against him but that gets in the way of a good story ... Seems child rape is to be made legal in the majority Muslim country of Turkey ... Brave protesting women folk have caused a temporary halt to the vote on a new law to make child rape legal as long as you marry your poor child victim ... Those men have their needs I suppose , its going to happen sooner rather than later ... Wonderful people
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Barryd999 - 2016-11-22 10:50 PM

 

Bulletguy - 2016-11-22 9:52 PM

 

Barryd999 - 2016-11-22 9:06 PM

 

Christ! Proper Nazis. :'( I love this bit. "America was until this past generation a white country". 6.6 million native Americans might argue differently.

 

They airbush that out. Look back to Jacksons "Trail of Tears" i linked before. That's where the hatred began.

http://www.history.com/topics/native-american-history/trail-of-tears

 

Are these the kind of people those who voted for Trump or indeed those who support the rise of the far right in Europe want to gain power? Heaven help us all.

 

Both.

 

Very sick people with twisted minds who think the way forward is going backwards. Parts of Germany and Poland still have lunatics like this but believe me, you really don't want to meet them. They are not very pleasant people.

 

Jackson's trail of tears could well repeat itself. Its one thing people saying that trump getting in or Brexit is the voice of the people being heard but do the people really want to see evil twisted scum like the ones in that video rising up and taking power? Maybe they do, Im just lost and bewildered with it all to be honest.

 

That's nuffin as a UKipper I like to bite babies heads off >:-) ........

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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