Bulletguy Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 Government are to spend £20 million desperately recruiting GP's from European countries before they yank up the drawbridge. Currently recruiting in Portugal but also Poland, Lithuania, Croatia and Greece. UK Gov needs to get real, freedom of movement is an essential life line. Cut it off and the country will fold. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/01/11/nhs-recruit-hundreds-gps-poland-lithuania-greece/ https://www.channel4.com/news/government-to-spend-millions-recruiting-european-doctors Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 What drawbridge? ;-) ......... Why are you having trouble understanding the term "controlled migration"? *-) ....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malc d Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 Could be used as an argument that there are too many people in this country. ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derek pringle Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 hi Bulletguy, I don't know much about G.P's but on the tv programme 'Hospital' it showed what I think is the biggest travesty in th NHS. Namely operating theatres and all thieir surgeons and staff standing around for days on end scratching their heads,unable to carry out operations for the need oh I.C.U. or High Dependency beds not being available. The total cost for having 1 theatre out of action must be enormous but here we are talking about 3 in the same Trust. G.P's would not help this problem as these people needed life saving ops. cheers derek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barryd999 Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 Thats a good idea that recruiting from mainland Europe. Why dont we also recruit lots of Europeans to work on farms, run our hospitality, factory processing units and lots of other jobs nobody here wants? They can even help with clever stuff as well such as Research and science and we can send teams over there as well as Britain leads the way in research and development with joint teams around Europe. Our kids and their kids can be free to study either side of the channel and there could be free health care for all! :D We could call it "Free Movement"! Errr, hang on. :-( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletguy Posted January 25, 2017 Author Share Posted January 25, 2017 derek pringle - 2017-01-25 8:56 AM hi Bulletguy, I don't know much about G.P's but on the tv programme 'Hospital' it showed what I think is the biggest travesty in th NHS. Namely operating theatres and all thieir surgeons and staff standing around for days on end scratching their heads,unable to carry out operations for the need oh I.C.U. or High Dependency beds not being available. The total cost for having 1 theatre out of action must be enormous but here we are talking about 3 in the same Trust. G.P's would not help this problem as these people needed life saving ops. cheers derek Derek.....i don't know if you watched the Channel 4 link but the lady GP on there said she "left home at 6.40am and never left the Surgery practice until 11pm each evening. I found that pretty staggering. My local GP's practice has just one "late night" opening on Monday.....when they stop open until 7pm. Every other weekday they close at 6pm apart from Thursday which is "half day" and close at 12 noon. The NHS hospital problems are another issue altogether and locally, our problems have been caused by continuous cuts forcing three outlying hospitals to only operate their A&E during the day where my local hospital A&E remains on 24hr. So through the night that now ends up sorting folk who live miles away that would previously have been seen by their own local A&E. It's all part of the Tory masterplan to gradually dismantle the NHS to bring in a private healthcare system. That's their ultimate aim and dream. Barryd999 - 2017-01-25 12:31 PM Thats a good idea that recruiting from mainland Europe. Why dont we also recruit lots of Europeans to work on farms, run our hospitality, factory processing units and lots of other jobs nobody here wants? They can even help with clever stuff as well such as Research and science and we can send teams over there as well as Britain leads the way in research and development with joint teams around Europe. Our kids and their kids can be free to study either side of the channel and there could be free health care for all! :D We could call it "Free Movement"! Errr, hang on. :-( Medical Science R&D is now facing very serious threats post-Brexit due to impending loss of EU grants which ran into £ millions. I doubt any Brexiters ever gave that a thought for one minute........they will be crying when their taxes start going through the roof to make up the deficit, not to mention their disposable income level dropping. https://www.theguardian.com/science/occams-corner/2016/jul/04/why-brexit-is-bad-news-for-cancer-research https://www.theguardian.com/education/2016/jul/16/research-funding-hit-by-brexit-vote https://www.ft.com/content/4b5701ca-4f14-11e6-88c5-db83e98a590a Freedom of movement is an absolute essential to the life blood of UK. Yes we need it for many other trades and skills too. A couple of years ago i was in Peterhead, somewhere i'd long wanted to go and visit to see what's left of UK's main fishing fleet, plus i enjoy walking round harbours looking at all kinds of boaty things and stuff! I was talking to a local Trawler skipper who told me all his crew were East European lads, mainly Latvian or Lithuanian and some Polish and most Trawlers are now manned by them. I asked if there was a shortage of local lads and he told me there are very few who will do the work which is very hard manual labour, very dangerous and long hours but if the catch is good, they earn damn good money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 Barryd999 - 2017-01-25 12:31 PM Thats a good idea that recruiting from mainland Europe. Why dont we also recruit lots of Europeans to work on farms, run our hospitality, factory processing units and lots of other jobs nobody here wants? They can even help with clever stuff as well such as Research and science and we can send teams over there as well as Britain leads the way in research and development with joint teams around Europe. Our kids and their kids can be free to study either side of the channel and there could be free health care for all! :D We could call it "Free Movement"! Errr, hang on. :-( We could also call it suppression of wages for the low paid, or cheap labour for big business, or free health care, or free benefits, or all inclusive holidays in HMP for criminals, or subtle ethnic cleansing for towns :D ...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nowtelse2do Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 Shortage of beds is a bloody laugh around here. In the past 10 to 15 yr, in a 12ml radius, six hospitals have closed and the land sold off to companies sutch as Wimpey, Barratts etc. All of the homes built were for the middle class, none were what you would call affordable homes for the poorer class. Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletguy Posted January 25, 2017 Author Share Posted January 25, 2017 nowtelse2do - 2017-01-25 8:00 PM Shortage of beds is a bloody laugh around here. In the past 10 to 15 yr, in a 12ml radius, six hospitals have closed and the land sold off to companies sutch as Wimpey, Barratts etc. All of the homes built were for the middle class, none were what you would call affordable homes for the poorer class. Dave Thatcher should never have sold off council housing under "right to buy". That started the rot. But many tenants not only took that offer up, lots "discovered capitalism", sold up, and made a nice wedge in the process. Engaging debate over that today is a prickly subject and will get stock replies such as "why shouldn't i" or "who cares...i'm ok now" from any ex-tenants. A few weeks ago there was a report on Channel 4 news about a company building an estate of starter homes. The prices will be 20% below market value and is just one condition on the sale agreement. Each purchaser must remain in the property for five years, after which they are free to sell at market value. In other words......investment property! It's social housing developments which need building. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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