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Don't you just love how these people turn the tables and put it on us non-Muslims to go along and if you don't your somehow ignorant to other faiths and ways of life ... Does the C of E have a visit my church day and is so I wonder how many Muslims attend ... Anyway if your going enjoy your day but if your female don't expect a friendly handshake and I'd be careful if your taking your kids
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Archiesgrandad - 2017-02-04 8:40 PM

 

Just for the record, the Church of England has an open day tommorrow and every Sunday at your local parish church, or any other that you might prefer, if you wish to visit, and you will generally be made welcome, whatever your circumstances. Most of the other Christian denominations do the same.

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"Whatever your circumstances" being the main difference between the two religions me thinks

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Archiesgrandad - 2017-02-04 8:40 PM

 

Just for the record, the Church of England has an open day tommorrow and every Sunday at your local parish church, or any other that you might prefer, if you wish to visit, and you will generally be made welcome, whatever your circumstances. Most of the other Christian denominations do the same.

AGD

 

Not if John Smyth QC is there....... :-(

 

https://www.channel4.com/news/archbishop-issues-apology-over-abuse-allegations

 

https://www.channel4.com/news/ungodly-crime-part-two

 

https://www.channel4.com/news/ungodly-crime-alleged-victim

 

https://www.channel4.com/news/ungodly-crime-bishop-of-buckingham

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Bulletguy - 2017-02-04 9:02 PM

 

Archiesgrandad - 2017-02-04 8:40 PM

 

Just for the record, the Church of England has an open day tommorrow and every Sunday at your local parish church, or any other that you might prefer, if you wish to visit, and you will generally be made welcome, whatever your circumstances. Most of the other Christian denominations do the same.

AGD

 

Not if John Smyth QC is there....... :-(

 

https://www.channel4.com/news/archbishop-issues-apology-over-abuse-allegations

 

https://www.channel4.com/news/ungodly-crime-part-two

 

https://www.channel4.com/news/ungodly-crime-alleged-victim

 

https://www.channel4.com/news/ungodly-crime-bishop-of-buckingham

 

Utterly disgusting ... How can anyone defend peadophile perverts

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starvin marvin - 2017-02-04 8:11 PM

 

Tomorrow is the third annual visit day, in order to offer a better understanding of Islam.

 

Anybody other than us going? There are over 150 mosques open, so there will be one near you, especially in the large urban areas. Go on give it a go, what have you got to lose? open your mind.

 

I'd go but looking at the map the nearest to me is Manchester. I've been to an Indian wedding once.....but can't remember if that was a mosque or temple!

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antony1969 - 2017-02-04 9:08 PM

 

Utterly disgusting ... How can anyone defend peadophile perverts.

 

It's worth watching all the clips really to get the gist of Cathy Newman's full interviews, but the last one with the Bishop chap is good. He raises some interesting points and wants to know why Smyth hasn't been brought to justice.

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antony1969 - 2017-02-04 8:18 PM

 

I'm going ... Taking my Jewish gay friend along with me ... Probably be a short visit I suspect

 

Don't bother pal, there's no hope for you. The surprise is you have a friend, but Jews tend to be very tolerant, unless you're a Palestinian, then they nick your land...are you Palestinian pal?

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starvin marvin - 2017-02-04 8:11 PM

 

Tomorrow is the third annual visit day, in order to offer a better understanding of Islam.

 

Anybody other than us going? There are over 150 mosques open, so there will be one near you, especially in the large urban areas. Go on give it a go, what have you got to lose? open your mind.

 

Sorry not into gang culture religious or otherwise ;-) .........

 

 

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antony1969 - 2017-02-04 8:18 PM

 

I'm going ... Taking my Jewish gay friend along with me ... Probably be a short visit I suspect

 

Don't bother pal, there's no hope for you. The surprise is you have a friend, but Jews tend to be very tolerant, unless you're a Palestinian, then they nick your land...are you Palestinian pal?

 

OK I'll not bother then ... I'll go for a big bacon breakfast fry up instead ... You enjoy it fella Im sure you will but you'll have to take your sandals off before you go in and give my respects to the top dogs 6 year old wife

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The thing is though, some claim that Muslims refuse to integrate and have anything to do with white British communities around them yet when there is the offer of an open day at a Mosque all it attracts is ridicule. Integration is a two way street is it not.

 

I would love to go and have a look. Surely the only way to learn about another culture or religion is to go and witness it for yourself rather than binge feasting on the racist bile churned out by the likes of the Daily Mail.

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Barryd999 - 2017-02-05 12:02 PM

 

The thing is though, some claim that Muslims refuse to integrate and have anything to do with white British communities around them yet when there is the offer of an open day at a Mosque all it attracts is ridicule. Integration is a two way street is it not.

 

I would love to go and have a look. Surely the only way to learn about another culture or religion is to go and witness it for yourself rather than binge feasting on the racist bile churned out by the likes of the Daily Mail.

 

Why do you need to go to a mosque when you live daily in a place littered with em ???

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Those at the mosque today according to a new ICM poll suggests 40% would choose Sharia Law for all of us in team GB to live by ... Another one , a Channel 4 poll found 50% of Muslims asked would make homosexuality illegal ... Nice and Im presuming the 40% would stone em to death
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antony1969 - 2017-02-05 7:59 PM

 

Those at the mosque today according to a new ICM poll suggests 40% would choose Sharia Law for all of us in team GB to live by ... Another one , a Channel 4 poll found 50% of Muslims asked would make homosexuality illegal ... Nice and Im presuming the 40% would stone em to death

 

Trevor Phillips: "What British Muslims Really Think". It was screened on Channel 4 April last year. Very interesting programme but i doubt you would have watched it.

 

http://www.channel4.com/info/press/news/c4-survey-and-documentary-reveals-what-british-muslims-really-think

 

 

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Barryd999 - 2017-02-05 12:02 PM

 

The thing is though, some claim that Muslims refuse to integrate and have anything to do with white British communities around them yet when there is the offer of an open day at a Mosque all it attracts is ridicule. Integration is a two way street is it not.

 

I would love to go and have a look. Surely the only way to learn about another culture or religion is to go and witness it for yourself rather than binge feasting on the racist bile churned out by the likes of the Daily Mail.

 

Why do you need to go to a mosque when you live daily in a place littered with em ???

 

Well it appears to me that down your way there is a real distrust and dislike I guess on both sides or at least thats how it comes across. They think you hate them you think they all hate you. Thats how it appears. I would have thought you and others in your community going to an open day at a mosque and talking to them and learning about their culture and life and perhaps them doing the same might bridge some gaps. Maybe, maybe not. I dunno but if two cultures refuse to have anything to do with each other it will just stay the same surely.

 

Reach out Antony. Go down the street tomorrow and hug a Muslim :D

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antony1969 - 2017-02-05 12:06 PM

 

Barryd999 - 2017-02-05 12:02 PM

 

The thing is though, some claim that Muslims refuse to integrate and have anything to do with white British communities around them yet when there is the offer of an open day at a Mosque all it attracts is ridicule. Integration is a two way street is it not.

 

I would love to go and have a look. Surely the only way to learn about another culture or religion is to go and witness it for yourself rather than binge feasting on the racist bile churned out by the likes of the Daily Mail.

 

Why do you need to go to a mosque when you live daily in a place littered with em ???

 

Well it appears to me that down your way there is a real distrust and dislike I guess on both sides or at least thats how it comes across. They think you hate them you think they all hate you. Thats how it appears. I would have thought you and others in your community going to an open day at a mosque and talking to them and learning about their culture and life and perhaps them doing the same might bridge some gaps. Maybe, maybe not. I dunno but if two cultures refuse to have anything to do with each other it will just stay the same surely.

 

Reach out Antony. Go down the street tomorrow and hug a Muslim :D

 

The two cultures are incompatible the world over ... Mind in many Muslim countries anything other being a Muslim is not allowed anyway is it ... If they had their way the same would apply here ... Whats the point in me or anyone going to the mosque ... Are they going to tell me all of a sudden they are going to treat everyone equal

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antony1969 - 2017-02-05 12:06 PM

 

Barryd999 - 2017-02-05 12:02 PM

 

The thing is though, some claim that Muslims refuse to integrate and have anything to do with white British communities around them yet when there is the offer of an open day at a Mosque all it attracts is ridicule. Integration is a two way street is it not.

 

I would love to go and have a look. Surely the only way to learn about another culture or religion is to go and witness it for yourself rather than binge feasting on the racist bile churned out by the likes of the Daily Mail.

 

Why do you need to go to a mosque when you live daily in a place littered with em ???

 

Well it appears to me that down your way there is a real distrust and dislike I guess on both sides or at least thats how it comes across. They think you hate them you think they all hate you. Thats how it appears. I would have thought you and others in your community going to an open day at a mosque and talking to them and learning about their culture and life and perhaps them doing the same might bridge some gaps. Maybe, maybe not. I dunno but if two cultures refuse to have anything to do with each other it will just stay the same surely.

 

Reach out Antony. Go down the street tomorrow and hug a Muslim :D

 

The two cultures are incompatible the world over ... Mind in many Muslim countries anything other being a Muslim is not allowed anyway is it ... If they had their way the same would apply here ... Whats the point in me or anyone going to the mosque ... Are they going to tell me all of a sudden they are going to treat everyone equal

 

Im not sure which countries outlaw other religions completely. Saudi, Indonesia, Somalia and a few others have strict draconian laws I think and converting to Christianity in Saudi is punishable by death I think

 

I agree, bringing that kind of culture to the UK is incompatible with UK Culture and values. Any form of Sharia law (not that its legal here anyway) or an attempt to enforce it here is incompatible with life in the UK. Are you telling me though that all the Muslims around you are of this ilk? If so then I understand your gripe but is it really the case? Its certainly not my experience of Muslims in the UK. Certainly the younger muslims I have known or dealt with on a regular basis are all integrated and very westernised. Most of them were born here. Surely long term the trend will be towards more integration and westernisation.

 

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antony1969 - 2017-02-06 6:31 AM

 

Barryd999 - 2017-02-05 11:19 PM

 

antony1969 - 2017-02-05 12:06 PM

 

Barryd999 - 2017-02-05 12:02 PM

 

The thing is though, some claim that Muslims refuse to integrate and have anything to do with white British communities around them yet when there is the offer of an open day at a Mosque all it attracts is ridicule. Integration is a two way street is it not.

 

I would love to go and have a look. Surely the only way to learn about another culture or religion is to go and witness it for yourself rather than binge feasting on the racist bile churned out by the likes of the Daily Mail.

 

Why do you need to go to a mosque when you live daily in a place littered with em ???

 

Well it appears to me that down your way there is a real distrust and dislike I guess on both sides or at least thats how it comes across. They think you hate them you think they all hate you. Thats how it appears. I would have thought you and others in your community going to an open day at a mosque and talking to them and learning about their culture and life and perhaps them doing the same might bridge some gaps. Maybe, maybe not. I dunno but if two cultures refuse to have anything to do with each other it will just stay the same surely.

 

Reach out Antony. Go down the street tomorrow and hug a Muslim :D

 

The two cultures are incompatible the world over ... Mind in many Muslim countries anything other being a Muslim is not allowed anyway is it ... If they had their way the same would apply here ... Whats the point in me or anyone going to the mosque ... Are they going to tell me all of a sudden they are going to treat everyone equal

 

Im not sure which countries outlaw other religions completely. Saudi, Indonesia, Somalia and a few others have strict draconian laws I think and converting to Christianity in Saudi is punishable by death I think

 

I agree, bringing that kind of culture to the UK is incompatible with UK Culture and values. Any form of Sharia law (not that its legal here anyway) or an attempt to enforce it here is incompatible with life in the UK. Are you telling me though that all the Muslims around you are of this ilk? If so then I understand your gripe but is it really the case? Its certainly not my experience of Muslims in the UK. Certainly the younger muslims I have known or dealt with on a regular basis are all integrated and very westernised. Most of them were born here. Surely long term the trend will be towards more integration and westernisation.

 

Barry you need to get out and about and look at the integration in the norther towns and cities ... It doesn't exist ... They integrate less and less and isolate themselves and thats backed up by politicians and reports that say the same ... You of course will blame the likes of me for not holding out a hand of friendship ... The Islamic faith and culture even in its mildest form preaches intolerance and I can't believe folk try to defend it ... If I started a new cult tomorrow that condemned homosexuals , hatred to Jews , female genital mutilation , forced marriage , incest , honour killings , terrorism , sharia law , high criminality and so on and so on I'd be locked up

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Barryd999 - 2017-02-06 11:21 AM

 

antony1969 - 2017-02-06 6:31 AM

 

Barryd999 - 2017-02-05 11:19 PM

 

antony1969 - 2017-02-05 12:06 PM

 

Barryd999 - 2017-02-05 12:02 PM

 

The thing is though, some claim that Muslims refuse to integrate and have anything to do with white British communities around them yet when there is the offer of an open day at a Mosque all it attracts is ridicule. Integration is a two way street is it not.

 

I would love to go and have a look. Surely the only way to learn about another culture or religion is to go and witness it for yourself rather than binge feasting on the racist bile churned out by the likes of the Daily Mail.

 

Why do you need to go to a mosque when you live daily in a place littered with em ???

 

Well it appears to me that down your way there is a real distrust and dislike I guess on both sides or at least thats how it comes across. They think you hate them you think they all hate you. Thats how it appears. I would have thought you and others in your community going to an open day at a mosque and talking to them and learning about their culture and life and perhaps them doing the same might bridge some gaps. Maybe, maybe not. I dunno but if two cultures refuse to have anything to do with each other it will just stay the same surely.

 

Reach out Antony. Go down the street tomorrow and hug a Muslim :D

 

The two cultures are incompatible the world over ... Mind in many Muslim countries anything other being a Muslim is not allowed anyway is it ... If they had their way the same would apply here ... Whats the point in me or anyone going to the mosque ... Are they going to tell me all of a sudden they are going to treat everyone equal

 

Im not sure which countries outlaw other religions completely. Saudi, Indonesia, Somalia and a few others have strict draconian laws I think and converting to Christianity in Saudi is punishable by death I think

 

I agree, bringing that kind of culture to the UK is incompatible with UK Culture and values. Any form of Sharia law (not that its legal here anyway) or an attempt to enforce it here is incompatible with life in the UK. Are you telling me though that all the Muslims around you are of this ilk? If so then I understand your gripe but is it really the case? Its certainly not my experience of Muslims in the UK. Certainly the younger muslims I have known or dealt with on a regular basis are all integrated and very westernised. Most of them were born here. Surely long term the trend will be towards more integration and westernisation.

 

Barry you need to get out and about and look at the integration in the norther towns and cities ... It doesn't exist ... They integrate less and less and isolate themselves and thats backed up by politicians and reports that say the same ... You of course will blame the likes of me for not holding out a hand of friendship ... The Islamic faith and culture even in its mildest form preaches intolerance and I can't believe folk try to defend it ... If I started a new cult tomorrow that condemned homosexuals , hatred to Jews , female genital mutilation , forced marriage , incest , honour killings , terrorism , sharia law , high criminality and so on and so on I'd be locked up

 

No I Dont blame you for not holding out the hand of friendship. Ive said before I believe what you are telling me. I just dont understand why it seems to be the case in some places but not others. I dont know any Muslims who support some of the horrific things you mention. A while back on here we discussed that documentary where they put 10 Muslims in a house together. Only one of them seemed to be of the ilk you describe and the rest of them despised him. One or two others were a bit in the middle but the majority were very much against him. Are they a true representation of Muslims in the UK today?

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antony1969 - 2017-02-05 12:06 PM

 

Barryd999 - 2017-02-05 12:02 PM

 

The thing is though, some claim that Muslims refuse to integrate and have anything to do with white British communities around them yet when there is the offer of an open day at a Mosque all it attracts is ridicule. Integration is a two way street is it not.

 

I would love to go and have a look. Surely the only way to learn about another culture or religion is to go and witness it for yourself rather than binge feasting on the racist bile churned out by the likes of the Daily Mail.

 

Why do you need to go to a mosque when you live daily in a place littered with em ???

 

Well it appears to me that down your way there is a real distrust and dislike I guess on both sides or at least thats how it comes across. They think you hate them you think they all hate you. Thats how it appears. I would have thought you and others in your community going to an open day at a mosque and talking to them and learning about their culture and life and perhaps them doing the same might bridge some gaps. Maybe, maybe not. I dunno but if two cultures refuse to have anything to do with each other it will just stay the same surely.

 

Reach out Antony. Go down the street tomorrow and hug a Muslim :D

 

The two cultures are incompatible the world over ... Mind in many Muslim countries anything other being a Muslim is not allowed anyway is it ... If they had their way the same would apply here ... Whats the point in me or anyone going to the mosque ... Are they going to tell me all of a sudden they are going to treat everyone equal

 

Im not sure which countries outlaw other religions completely. Saudi, Indonesia, Somalia and a few others have strict draconian laws I think and converting to Christianity in Saudi is punishable by death I think

 

I agree, bringing that kind of culture to the UK is incompatible with UK Culture and values. Any form of Sharia law (not that its legal here anyway) or an attempt to enforce it here is incompatible with life in the UK. Are you telling me though that all the Muslims around you are of this ilk? If so then I understand your gripe but is it really the case? Its certainly not my experience of Muslims in the UK. Certainly the younger muslims I have known or dealt with on a regular basis are all integrated and very westernised. Most of them were born here. Surely long term the trend will be towards more integration and westernisation.

 

Barry you need to get out and about and look at the integration in the norther towns and cities ... It doesn't exist ... They integrate less and less and isolate themselves and thats backed up by politicians and reports that say the same ... You of course will blame the likes of me for not holding out a hand of friendship ... The Islamic faith and culture even in its mildest form preaches intolerance and I can't believe folk try to defend it ... If I started a new cult tomorrow that condemned homosexuals , hatred to Jews , female genital mutilation , forced marriage , incest , honour killings , terrorism , sharia law , high criminality and so on and so on I'd be locked up

 

No I Dont blame you for not holding out the hand of friendship. Ive said before I believe what you are telling me. I just dont understand why it seems to be the case in some places but not others. I dont know any Muslims who support some of the horrific things you mention. A while back on here we discussed that documentary where they put 10 Muslims in a house together. Only one of them seemed to be of the ilk you describe and the rest of them despised him. One or two others were a bit in the middle but the majority were very much against him. Are they a true representation of Muslims in the UK today?

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antony1969 - 2017-02-06 12:38 PM

 

Barryd999 - 2017-02-06 11:21 AM

 

antony1969 - 2017-02-06 6:31 AM

 

Barryd999 - 2017-02-05 11:19 PM

 

antony1969 - 2017-02-05 12:06 PM

 

Barryd999 - 2017-02-05 12:02 PM

 

The thing is though, some claim that Muslims refuse to integrate and have anything to do with white British communities around them yet when there is the offer of an open day at a Mosque all it attracts is ridicule. Integration is a two way street is it not.

 

I would love to go and have a look. Surely the only way to learn about another culture or religion is to go and witness it for yourself rather than binge feasting on the racist bile churned out by the likes of the Daily Mail.

 

Why do you need to go to a mosque when you live daily in a place littered with em ???

 

Well it appears to me that down your way there is a real distrust and dislike I guess on both sides or at least thats how it comes across. They think you hate them you think they all hate you. Thats how it appears. I would have thought you and others in your community going to an open day at a mosque and talking to them and learning about their culture and life and perhaps them doing the same might bridge some gaps. Maybe, maybe not. I dunno but if two cultures refuse to have anything to do with each other it will just stay the same surely.

 

Reach out Antony. Go down the street tomorrow and hug a Muslim :D

 

The two cultures are incompatible the world over ... Mind in many Muslim countries anything other being a Muslim is not allowed anyway is it ... If they had their way the same would apply here ... Whats the point in me or anyone going to the mosque ... Are they going to tell me all of a sudden they are going to treat everyone equal

 

Im not sure which countries outlaw other religions completely. Saudi, Indonesia, Somalia and a few others have strict draconian laws I think and converting to Christianity in Saudi is punishable by death I think

 

I agree, bringing that kind of culture to the UK is incompatible with UK Culture and values. Any form of Sharia law (not that its legal here anyway) or an attempt to enforce it here is incompatible with life in the UK. Are you telling me though that all the Muslims around you are of this ilk? If so then I understand your gripe but is it really the case? Its certainly not my experience of Muslims in the UK. Certainly the younger muslims I have known or dealt with on a regular basis are all integrated and very westernised. Most of them were born here. Surely long term the trend will be towards more integration and westernisation.

 

Barry you need to get out and about and look at the integration in the norther towns and cities ... It doesn't exist ... They integrate less and less and isolate themselves and thats backed up by politicians and reports that say the same ... You of course will blame the likes of me for not holding out a hand of friendship ... The Islamic faith and culture even in its mildest form preaches intolerance and I can't believe folk try to defend it ... If I started a new cult tomorrow that condemned homosexuals , hatred to Jews , female genital mutilation , forced marriage , incest , honour killings , terrorism , sharia law , high criminality and so on and so on I'd be locked up

 

No I Dont blame you for not holding out the hand of friendship. Ive said before I believe what you are telling me. I just dont understand why it seems to be the case in some places but not others. I dont know any Muslims who support some of the horrific things you mention. A while back on here we discussed that documentary where they put 10 Muslims in a house together. Only one of them seemed to be of the ilk you describe and the rest of them despised him. One or two others were a bit in the middle but the majority were very much against him. Are they a true representation of Muslims in the UK today?

 

Didn't watch it but Im sure before the programme those who took part were vetted and interviewed and made sure they were suitable for the message the programme makers wanted to make ... Imagine if the TV channel/company had allowed 7 out of the 10 to hold dark ages views or support terrorism then the PC brigade would have been in uproar ... Where are these other places where you suggest Muslims and others live in harmony , maybe your business world location in London but not the majority of London Im sure and it certainly does not exist in Northern towns ... Going to a local curry or newsagents doesn't cut it as harmonious side by side living either ... Whats happening in Europe tells me your on a loser Barry ... For years we've been bashed down by name calling to prevent the admittedly difficult discussion regarding Muslims ... Bullet and some old schoolers like him still use that approach that worked well for years but that was then , this is now ... The attitudes and teachings and lack of integration by Muslims has caused whats happening so Im afraid ultimately they only have themselves to blame

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