Bulletguy Posted February 4, 2017 Share Posted February 4, 2017 The Department of Homeland Security announced it has suspended all actions to implement the immigration order and will resume standard inspections of travelers as it did prior to the signing of the travel ban. A federal judge's order halted Trumps immigration ban -- so Trump hits Twitterage to do his usual.*-) Read the comments!! (lol) https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/827981079042805761 https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/827996357252243456 http://edition.cnn.com/2017/02/03/politics/federal-judge-temporarily-halts-trump-travel-ban-nationwide-ag-says/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starvin marvin Posted February 4, 2017 Share Posted February 4, 2017 Brilliant, innit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletguy Posted February 4, 2017 Author Share Posted February 4, 2017 Read Trumps tweet in reply to this! http://oi67.tinypic.com/rtixxv.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antony1969 Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 Americans will wake up and feel less secure today ... Shameful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barryd999 Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 antony1969 - 2017-02-05 7:08 AM Americans will wake up and feel less secure today ... Shameful Why? Nobody from any of those seven countries committed terrorism on American soil. Citizens from Saudi Arabia however who wasn't on the list have though, including 9/11. Where is the logic in that? What is shameful is banning an entire country(s) based on lets be honest here them being Muslims and causing both huge offence and chaos around the world. UK doctors not being allowed to enter the US to do vital medical research, IT Engineers being stranded in Canada and unable to return HOME to the US to their families and holiday makers unable to return home to Europe from south America via the US. Come on! It was ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antony1969 Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 Barryd999 - 2017-02-05 11:53 AM antony1969 - 2017-02-05 7:08 AM Americans will wake up and feel less secure today ... Shameful Why? Nobody from any of those seven countries committed terrorism on American soil. Citizens from Saudi Arabia however who wasn't on the list have though, including 9/11. Where is the logic in that? What is shameful is banning an entire country(s) based on lets be honest here them being Muslims and causing both huge offence and chaos around the world. UK doctors not being allowed to enter the US to do vital medical research, IT Engineers being stranded in Canada and unable to return HOME to the US to their families and holiday makers unable to return home to Europe from south America via the US. Come on! It was ridiculous. Dont really understand why you and others bang on about terrorist acts that have already happened in the States ... Surely the intelligence and remember its that nice man Obamas intelligence that shows the greatest threat at the moment ( not in the past ) comes from those countries on the list ... A few doctors late home or put out is nothing compared to possible slaughters ... Lets give the intelligence agencies a little credit in that they know more than any of us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PJay Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 Interesting that the arrivals shown on the TV this morning, . The MEN appeared to be "beardless" I guess they want to mingle ? PJay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starvin marvin Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 antony1969 - 2017-02-05 7:08 AM Americans will wake up and feel less secure today ... Shameful Americans waking up, now there's an interesting concept. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antony1969 Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 starvin marvin - 2017-02-05 2:32 PM antony1969 - 2017-02-05 7:08 AM Americans will wake up and feel less secure today ... Shameful Americans waking up, now there's an interesting concept. Current climate that just has to be racist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletguy Posted February 5, 2017 Author Share Posted February 5, 2017 starvin marvin - 2017-02-05 2:32 PM antony1969 - 2017-02-05 7:08 AM Americans will wake up and feel less secure today ... Shameful Americans waking up, now there's an interesting concept. Yes!! My late mum often used to say Pearl Habour was their "wake up" call in 1941. Four days later they declared war......after UK had virtually stood alone 2 years and 3 months since declaring war on Hitlers Germany after he invaded Poland. I say "virtually" because our true allies, Canada and France also declared war on Hitlers Germany the same time, the only time Canada has declared war. The French, Polish and Dutch resistance movement along with the many young Polish men who came to UK and fought with the RAF is well documented. We had 16 Polish fighter squadrons with the RAF but 303 Squadron is undoubtedly the most famous. BBC screened an excellent documentary about them and the history is easily sourced on the internet. It was also Polish intelligence who first cracked the Enigma code before Turing as they had already got hold of a machine. They eventually went on to work with Bletchley. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/2016/03/15/polish-codebreakers-cracked-enigma-before-alan-turing/ http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-28167071 As for terrorism/terrorists in the US, how many Americans have been killed by by an act of terrorism on US soil by a citizen from any of the following countries......Syria, Iran, Iraq, Sudan, Libya, Somalia and Yemen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antony1969 Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 Bulletguy - 2017-02-05 3:40 PM starvin marvin - 2017-02-05 2:32 PM antony1969 - 2017-02-05 7:08 AM Americans will wake up and feel less secure today ... Shameful Americans waking up, now there's an interesting concept. Yes!! My late mum often used to say Pearl Habour was their "wake up" call in 1941. Four days later they declared war......after UK had virtually stood alone 2 years and 3 months since declaring war on Hitlers Germany after he invaded Poland. I say "virtually" because our true allies, Canada and France also declared war on Hitlers Germany the same time, the only time Canada has declared war. The French, Polish and Dutch resistance movement along with the many young Polish men who came to UK and fought with the RAF is well documented. We had 16 Polish fighter squadrons with the RAF but 303 Squadron is undoubtedly the most famous. BBC screened an excellent documentary about them and the history is easily sourced on the internet. It was also Polish intelligence who first cracked the Enigma code before Turing as they had already got hold of a machine. They eventually went on to work with Bletchley. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/2016/03/15/polish-codebreakers-cracked-enigma-before-alan-turing/ http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-28167071 As for terrorism/terrorists in the US, how many Americans have been killed by by an act of terrorism on US soil by a citizen from any of the following countries......Syria, Iran, Iraq, Sudan, Libya, Somalia and Yemen? Its a non-argument Bullet ... How many folk had been killed by Huddersfield or Dewsbury terrorists before 7/7 ??? ... The ban is in place because thats where the greatest threat exists now according to American intelligence ... Obamas American intelligence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletguy Posted February 5, 2017 Author Share Posted February 5, 2017 antony1969 - 2017-02-05 4:21 PM Its a non-argument Bullet ... How many folk had been killed by Huddersfield or Dewsbury terrorists before 7/7 ??? ... The ban is in place because thats where the greatest threat exists now according to American intelligence ... Threat of what? Obamas American intelligence. Trump made the ban......not Obama. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antony1969 Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 Bulletguy - 2017-02-05 4:42 PM antony1969 - 2017-02-05 4:21 PM Its a non-argument Bullet ... How many folk had been killed by Huddersfield or Dewsbury terrorists before 7/7 ??? ... The ban is in place because thats where the greatest threat exists now according to American intelligence ... Threat of what? Obamas American intelligence. Trump made the ban......not Obama. Threat of what ??? I'm probably not the best person to ask about that because on top of Obamas list of shaky countries that a terrorist threat comes from I'd add threat to American way of life and threat to women and children through very dodgy views on women consenting to sex and the age of consent Trumps ban ... Obamas list Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starvin marvin Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 antony1969 - 2017-02-05 2:34 PM starvin marvin - 2017-02-05 2:32 PM antony1969 - 2017-02-05 7:08 AM Americans will wake up and feel less secure today ... Shameful Americans waking up, now there's an interesting concept. Current climate that just has to be racist You really are crackers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antony1969 Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 starvin marvin - 2017-02-05 5:21 PM antony1969 - 2017-02-05 2:34 PM starvin marvin - 2017-02-05 2:32 PM antony1969 - 2017-02-05 7:08 AM Americans will wake up and feel less secure today ... Shameful Americans waking up, now there's an interesting concept. Current climate that just has to be racist You really are crackers. It was a joke Tony ... Though I will agree I am crackers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletguy Posted February 5, 2017 Author Share Posted February 5, 2017 antony1969 - 2017-02-05 5:07 PM Bulletguy - 2017-02-05 4:42 PM antony1969 - 2017-02-05 4:21 PM Its a non-argument Bullet ... How many folk had been killed by Huddersfield or Dewsbury terrorists before 7/7 ??? ... The ban is in place because thats where the greatest threat exists now according to American intelligence ... Threat of what? Obamas American intelligence. Trump made the ban......not Obama. Threat of what ??? I'm probably not the best person to ask about that because on top of Obamas list of shaky countries that a terrorist threat comes from I'd add threat to American way of life and threat to women and children through very dodgy views on women consenting to sex and the age of consent Trumps ban ... Obamas list I'm not sure how "dodgy views of women consenting to sex and the age of consent" constitutes terrorism......that really is a new one. As for "threat to American way of life" i'm left asking again.......what threat? Threat of what exactly?? America is one huge country or put another way, it's many 'countries' on one chunk of land as each state is so different from the other, many even having different laws and even culturally varied, eg when it comes to guns, Texans and New Yorkers are polar opposites. Americans are actually in far more threat of being killed by one of their own, as they continue to be every single day, than anyone from any of those countries listed. I'll answer my own question seeing as you keep dodging it. People from the countries in Trump’s crosshairs have certainly committed acts of terrorism in the United States; a Somali refugee injured several people in an attack at Ohio State University just this fall. Asylum-seekers have also recently been implicated in terrorist plots in Europe. But after sifting through databases, media reports, court documents, and other sources, Alex Nowrasteh, an immigration expert at the libertarian Cato Institute, has arrived at a striking finding: Nationals of the seven countries singled out by Trump have killed zero people in terrorist attacks on U.S. soil between 1975 and 2015. Zero. https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2017/01/trump-immigration-ban-terrorism/514361/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antony1969 Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 Bulletguy - 2017-02-05 6:04 PM antony1969 - 2017-02-05 5:07 PM Bulletguy - 2017-02-05 4:42 PM antony1969 - 2017-02-05 4:21 PM Its a non-argument Bullet ... How many folk had been killed by Huddersfield or Dewsbury terrorists before 7/7 ??? ... The ban is in place because thats where the greatest threat exists now according to American intelligence ... Threat of what? Obamas American intelligence. Trump made the ban......not Obama. Threat of what ??? I'm probably not the best person to ask about that because on top of Obamas list of shaky countries that a terrorist threat comes from I'd add threat to American way of life and threat to women and children through very dodgy views on women consenting to sex and the age of consent Trumps ban ... Obamas list I'm not sure how "dodgy views of women consenting to sex and the age of consent" constitutes terrorism......that really is a new one. As for "threat to American way of life" i'm left asking again.......what threat? Threat of what exactly?? America is one huge country or put another way, it's many 'countries' on one chunk of land as each state is so different from the other, many even having different laws and even culturally varied, eg when it comes to guns, Texans and New Yorkers are polar opposites. Americans are actually in far more threat of being killed by one of their own, as they continue to be every single day, than anyone from any of those countries listed. I'll answer my own question seeing as you keep dodging it. People from the countries in Trump’s crosshairs have certainly committed acts of terrorism in the United States; a Somali refugee injured several people in an attack at Ohio State University just this fall. Asylum-seekers have also recently been implicated in terrorist plots in Europe. But after sifting through databases, media reports, court documents, and other sources, Alex Nowrasteh, an immigration expert at the libertarian Cato Institute, has arrived at a striking finding: Nationals of the seven countries singled out by Trump have killed zero people in terrorist attacks on U.S. soil between 1975 and 2015. Zero. https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2017/01/trump-immigration-ban-terrorism/514361/ I never said dodgy views of sex with women and children had anything to do with terrorism did I ???? ... I said something along the lines of adding to the terrorist threat ... Keep up Bullet Why are you so obsessed with terrorism that has been and attempt to make a point on it ??? I know your older and live in the past but get over it ... The threat according to Obama came from the countries Trump has banned ... What's the problem Given your obsession regarding Trump in which you've started 7 or 8 threads regarding him your never going to take on board any other view than the twisted one you have are you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletguy Posted February 5, 2017 Author Share Posted February 5, 2017 antony1969 - 2017-02-05 6:25 PM I never said dodgy views of sex with women and children had anything to do with terrorism did I ???? ... I said something along the lines of adding to the terrorist threat ... Keep up Bullet Perhaps we should add climate change to that then. Now there is a very real threat. All very "terroristy" stuff. Americans really should stay indoors and never leave the house in case of slips trips 'n falls. Why are you so obsessed with terrorism that has been and attempt to make a point on it ??? I've been trying to get you to clarify exactly what threat any of those seven countries are to the US but you seem unable to provide any logical or conclusive answer. Hardly surprising given the information i linked to in the previous post. The threat according to Obama came from the countries Trump has banned ... What's the problem Given your obsession regarding Trump in which you've started 7 or 8 threads regarding him your never going to take on board any other view than the twisted one you have are you. Apart from you open dislike for everything Obama and your undying unrequited "love" for Trump (you stated that some days ago), what is your continual obsession with Obama?? Your new boyfriend Trump has scrubbed everything, or attempted to, Obama did. Trump failed on this one just as he will with other silly orders he attempts to push through ignoring the constitution and judicial process. More clarity here on why comparing Trump's and Obama's immigration restrictions is flawed http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2017/jan/30/donald-trump/why-comparing-trumps-and-obamas-immigration-restri/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antony1969 Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 Bulletguy - 2017-02-05 7:18 PM antony1969 - 2017-02-05 6:25 PM I never said dodgy views of sex with women and children had anything to do with terrorism did I ???? ... I said something along the lines of adding to the terrorist threat ... Keep up Bullet Perhaps we should add climate change to that then. Now there is a very real threat. All very "terroristy" stuff. Americans really should stay indoors and never leave the house in case of slips trips 'n falls. Why are you so obsessed with terrorism that has been and attempt to make a point on it ??? I've been trying to get you to clarify exactly what threat any of those seven countries are to the US but you seem unable to provide any logical or conclusive answer. Hardly surprising given the information i linked to in the previous post. The threat according to Obama came from the countries Trump has banned ... What's the problem Given your obsession regarding Trump in which you've started 7 or 8 threads regarding him your never going to take on board any other view than the twisted one you have are you. Apart from you open dislike for everything Obama and your undying unrequited "love" for Trump (you stated that some days ago), what is your continual obsession with Obama?? Your new boyfriend Trump has scrubbed everything, or attempted to, Obama did. Trump failed on this one just as he will with other silly orders he attempts to push through ignoring the constitution and judicial process. More clarity here on why comparing Trump's and Obama's immigration restrictions is flawed http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2017/jan/30/donald-trump/why-comparing-trumps-and-obamas-immigration-restri/ Mmmm ... Ive never mentioned climate change but now that you mention it , its all a load of guffaw ... Other than that I have no idea what the ferk your on about The threat of the 7 countries ( once again ) was a threat picked up by the previous Obama administration regarding the very real and very now threat to Americans by countries in the Muslim word ... It isn't a threat based on past homeland terrorism or on previous attacks but a threat based on intelligence neither you nor I have ( unless your famous crystal ball gives you inside info )... Those 7 ( not mine or Trumps but Obamas ) countries are the countries that are top of the danger list ... If they weren't Muslim countries Im presuming you wouldn't have a problem ??? Where do you get the idea I have an everything dislike of everything thats Obama ??? ... Unlike you who has started around 7/8 threads about public enemy number 1 Trump Ive started none about Obama ... Kinda tells the whole world you have the problem not me ... Fella Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletguy Posted February 5, 2017 Author Share Posted February 5, 2017 antony1969 - 2017-02-05 7:32 PM Mmmm ... Ive never mentioned climate change but now that you mention it , its all a load of guffaw ... Yeah.....course it is, the "concept of global warming was created by and for the Chinese in order to make U.S. manufacturing non-competitive."........according to mad "scientist" Trump. *-) Other than that I have no idea what the ferk your on about..... I gathered that some time back!! (lol) The threat of the 7 countries ( once again ) was a threat picked up by the previous Obama administration regarding..... Here we go again. *-) You haven't read one word from that link have you? Not one single word as is apparent from your very first line above!! Give it a go Antony. Take your keyboard off warrior launch mode for a few minutes and read!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antony1969 Posted February 6, 2017 Share Posted February 6, 2017 Bulletguy - 2017-02-05 8:48 PM antony1969 - 2017-02-05 7:32 PM Mmmm ... Ive never mentioned climate change but now that you mention it , its all a load of guffaw ... Yeah.....course it is, the "concept of global warming was created by and for the Chinese in order to make U.S. manufacturing non-competitive."........according to mad "scientist" Trump. *-) Other than that I have no idea what the ferk your on about..... I gathered that some time back!! (lol) The threat of the 7 countries ( once again ) was a threat picked up by the previous Obama administration regarding..... Here we go again. *-) You haven't read one word from that link have you? Not one single word as is apparent from your very first line above!! Give it a go Antony. Take your keyboard off warrior launch mode for a few minutes and read!!! You couldn't make it up Bullet ... Im the keyboard warrior and yet you have over 10 different Trump related threads you've started on the Chatterbox opening page ??? ... I didnt count your Brexit ones ... At a guess on the opening page I'll say 5 ... Warrior on Bullet ... Warrior on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted February 6, 2017 Share Posted February 6, 2017 Never had much time for this climate change guff........Our climates "always" been changing, and the sooner we can have vineyards in Yorkshire again the better in my view B-) ......... Chateau de Udderfields..... plonk de plonk 2020 anyone? :D ....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antony1969 Posted February 6, 2017 Share Posted February 6, 2017 pelmetman - 2017-02-06 8:48 AM Never had much time for this climate change guff........Our climates "always" been changing, and the sooner we can have vineyards in Yorkshire again the better in my view B-) ......... Chateau de Udderfields..... plonk de plonk 2020 anyone? :D ....... Actually they are making wine not far from where we live in Last of the Summer Wine village of Holmfirth ... Good stuff too apparently ... Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletguy Posted February 6, 2017 Author Share Posted February 6, 2017 antony1969 - 2017-02-06 6:43 AM You couldn't make it up Bullet ... No need to.........that lunatic in the White House provides me with plenty of fodder! pelmetman - 2017-02-06 8:48 AM Never had much time for this climate change guff........Our climates "always" been changing, and the sooner we can have vineyards in Yorkshire again the better in my view B-) ......... Chateau de Udderfields..... plonk de plonk 2020 anyone? :D ....... You won't have anyone to pick the grapes and if you ever manage to bottle any it would be too expensive to buy. Remember.......British Brexiters go swanning off to Spain for cheap plonk and cheap living. (lol) (lol) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antony1969 Posted February 6, 2017 Share Posted February 6, 2017 Bulletguy - 2017-02-06 4:14 PM antony1969 - 2017-02-06 6:43 AM You couldn't make it up Bullet ... No need to.........that lunatic in the White House provides me with plenty of fodder! pelmetman - 2017-02-06 8:48 AM Never had much time for this climate change guff........Our climates "always" been changing, and the sooner we can have vineyards in Yorkshire again the better in my view B-) ......... Chateau de Udderfields..... plonk de plonk 2020 anyone? :D ....... You won't have anyone to pick the grapes and if you ever manage to bottle any it would be too expensive to buy. Remember.......British Brexiters go swanning off to Spain for cheap plonk and cheap living. (lol) (lol) You've got a White House ... Had you down as more mock Tudor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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