Bulletguy Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 Hilarious!! (lol) (lol) Bigly just gone into meltdown over Federal Appeals court which unanimously upheld the temporary suspension ban of seven Muslim countries. So he hits the hot line to Twitter and twits; SEE YOU IN COURT, THE SECURITY OF OUR NATION IS AT STAKE! https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/829836231802515457 What a Twitting Tit. *-) The comments are hilarious too....."you just had your ass whipped" "it's a beautiful thing" "yes our security is at stake....clear off and take President Bannon with you"! (lol) (lol) Looking forward to the Supreme Court result!! :D http://www.independent.ie/world-news/north-america/president-trump/see-you-in-court-trumps-tweet-in-response-to-ruling-on-muslim-ban-35438817.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antony1969 Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 Its a shame you view it as a Muslim ban before you view it as an American security ban ... Had the seven countries on the LIST been lets say majority Jewish I wonder if the outcry would have been the same ... Somehow doubt it http://freebeacon.com/national-security/white-house-just-dropped-terror-list-hope-will-silence-trumps-travel-ban-critics/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Violet1956 Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 antony1969 - 2017-02-10 9:17 AM Its a shame you view it as a Muslim ban before you view it as an American security ban ... Had the seven countries on the LIST been lets say majority Jewish I wonder if the outcry would have been the same ... Somehow doubt it http://freebeacon.com/national-security/white-house-just-dropped-terror-list-hope-will-silence-trumps-travel-ban-critics/ That's an interesting article Antony. My first thoughts were that to say the ban could not be justified because there were no acts of terror committed by people from these countries was not a compelling argument anyway. Even if there had been no acts of terrorism committed by people who had visited or who were from the countries on the list that does not mean there was no risk of it happening in the future. Donald better get his ducks in line for the full argument when it goes before the courts. I wonder whether the courts in America ever go into closed session when sensitive matters of public security and intelligence form part of the case? Would perhaps be a good idea because the cases mentioned in the article you posted may be just the tip of the iceberg who knows? There are obligations of the state to secure the safety of its citizens. Seems to me a balance has to be struck between the public interest in meeting those obligations and the public interest in securing what were referred to in the judgement as the “due process” rights of the people affected by it. It’s not all over yet but it seems to me that balancing these competing interests is not a simple task. Veronica Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antony1969 Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 Violet1956 - 2017-02-10 1:32 PM antony1969 - 2017-02-10 9:17 AM Its a shame you view it as a Muslim ban before you view it as an American security ban ... Had the seven countries on the LIST been lets say majority Jewish I wonder if the outcry would have been the same ... Somehow doubt it http://freebeacon.com/national-security/white-house-just-dropped-terror-list-hope-will-silence-trumps-travel-ban-critics/ That's an interesting article Antony. My first thoughts were that to say the ban could not be justified because there were no acts of terror committed by people from these countries was not a compelling argument anyway. Even if there had been no acts of terrorism committed by people who had visited or who were from the countries on the list that does not mean there was no risk of it happening in the future. Donald better get his ducks in line for the full argument when it goes before the courts. I wonder whether the courts in America ever go into closed session when sensitive matters of public security and intelligence form part of the case? Would perhaps be a good idea because the cases mentioned in the article you posted may be just the tip of the iceberg who knows? There are obligations of the state to secure the safety of its citizens. Seems to me a balance has to be struck between the public interest in meeting those obligations and the public interest in securing what were referred to in the judgement as the “due process” rights of the people affected by it. It’s not all over yet but it seems to me that balancing these competing interests is not a simple task. Veronica Spot on Veronica ... Its a shame the press and certain individuals feel the need to portray it as a "Muslim Ban" ... Its surely a matter of national security and lets not forget Trump is working on a list set out by the previous administration ... I dont doubt for one minute we would have had very little backlash against a President Obama doing the same ... Brings to mind the lady demonstrator at the airport who when confronted with the fact Obama had done something similar with Iraqis replied " Well I like Obama" ... Says it all for me ... Im afraid its all become more about Trump the man than his policies as Christ knows how many Trump threads on here proves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antony1969 Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 Mmmmm ... Deporting Muslims ... Screaming demonstrations anyone ??? http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/saudi-arabia-deports-39-000-pakistanis-in-4-months-plans-to-investigate-before-letting-pakistanis-enter/1/877702.html Cant understand why Trump doesn't want Iranians coming in either http://www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/iranians-chant-death-to-america-as-nation-celebrates-1979-islamic-revolution/story-SrtpsXxPGgKVsHm6N0xPaI.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletguy Posted February 10, 2017 Author Share Posted February 10, 2017 antony1969 - 2017-02-10 9:17 AM Its a shame you view it as a Muslim ban before you view it as an American security ban ... Had the seven countries on the LIST been lets say majority Jewish I wonder if the outcry would have been the same ... Somehow doubt it It was a temporary suspension ban involving seven countries with a predominantly Muslim population..........none of which had committed an act of terrorism on US soil. So if he genuinely had American security at heart, why wasn't Saudi, Egypt, UAE, and Lebanon on that list where all 9/11 terrorists came from? Well we all know the answer to why Saudi wasn't on so i won't expect any justification for that as it cannot be justified, not truthfully. Calling it a "Muslim ban" simply saves me repeatedly writing all the above detail over and over. To excuse it as "American security ban" is just farcical as has been shown so many times via numerous linked factual news reports. I've no idea why you feel shoehorning a Jewish angle in supports your argument at all because it makes no sense whatsoever. You may as well suggest all European countries. Trumps plan was seriously flawed from the outset and it's taken the law to step in and crack the whip. Trump may well excel at making rubbish business investments, making vacant "speeches", and tweeting inane crass comments on social media......but that doesn't make a great politician. He doesn't seem to know much about constitutional law or the way the justice system works at all and making disparaging comments about his own countries judicial system beggars belief. Forget car crash tv.....we are watching car crash politics with that lunatic in the White House. Impeachment beckons and the sooner the better.......even for his own sake! https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/08/us/politics/donald-trump-immigration-ban.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antony1969 Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 Bulletguy - 2017-02-10 3:09 PM antony1969 - 2017-02-10 9:17 AM Its a shame you view it as a Muslim ban before you view it as an American security ban ... Had the seven countries on the LIST been lets say majority Jewish I wonder if the outcry would have been the same ... Somehow doubt it It was a temporary suspension ban involving seven countries with a predominantly Muslim population..........none of which had committed an act of terrorism on US soil. So if he genuinely had American security at heart, why wasn't Saudi, Egypt, UAE, and Lebanon on that list where all 9/11 terrorists came from? Well we all know the answer to why Saudi wasn't on so i won't expect any justification for that as it cannot be justified, not truthfully. Calling it a "Muslim ban" simply saves me repeatedly writing all the above detail over and over. To excuse it as "American security ban" is just farcical as has been shown so many times via numerous linked factual news reports. I've no idea why you feel shoehorning a Jewish angle in supports your argument at all because it makes no sense whatsoever. You may as well suggest all European countries. Trumps plan was seriously flawed from the outset and it's taken the law to step in and crack the whip. Trump may well excel at making rubbish business investments, making vacant "speeches", and tweeting inane crass comments on social media......but that doesn't make a great politician. He doesn't seem to know much about constitutional law or the way the justice system works at all and making disparaging comments about his own countries judicial system beggars belief. Forget car crash tv.....we are watching car crash politics with that lunatic in the White House. Impeachment beckons and the sooner the better.......even for his own sake! https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/08/us/politics/donald-trump-immigration-ban.html 9/11 happened some areas ago ... Though you haven't the rest of the world has moved on ... The threat according to Obama now comes from those 7 countries and Trump agrees with him ... Unless you can show the intelligence that proves different or your magic crystal ball says other then its a non-argument You call it a Muslim Ban because it suits you to show Muslims as victims so dont lie please ... Not becoming of a gentleman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletguy Posted February 10, 2017 Author Share Posted February 10, 2017 antony1969 - 2017-02-10 3:20 PM 9/11 happened some areas ago ... Though you haven't the rest of the world has moved on ... Oh so that's ok then eh? Yeah so was the Oklahoma bombing by that nice white all American boy who murdered 168 and injured over 600. So sod that.....we can forget about that, it's just old history. Wow.............just wow!!! 8-) You call it a Muslim Ban because it suits you to show Muslims as victims so dont lie please ... Actually if you read my posts and gave considered thought before jumping into your usual keyboard warrior mode you would see i wrote in my opening post, "the temporary suspension ban of seven Muslim countries." It's you who chose to twist that into "Muslim ban" in order to fit your Muslim agenda which you continue to bang at in every single damn thread. Your hatred is all to apparent Antony. Meantime.....Bigly continues to cry on his Twitter page. Hilarious comments!! (lol) (lol) https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/830042498806460417 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antony1969 Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 Bulletguy - 2017-02-10 3:48 PM antony1969 - 2017-02-10 3:20 PM 9/11 happened some areas ago ... Though you haven't the rest of the world has moved on ... Oh so that's ok then eh? Yeah so was the Oklahoma bombing by that nice white all American boy who murdered 168 and injured over 600. So sod that.....we can forget about that, it's just old history. Wow.............just wow!!! 8-) You call it a Muslim Ban because it suits you to show Muslims as victims so dont lie please ... Actually if you read my posts and gave considered thought before jumping into your usual keyboard warrior mode you would see i wrote in my opening post, "the temporary suspension ban of seven Muslim countries." It's you who chose to twist that into "Muslim ban" in order to fit your Muslim agenda which you continue to bang at in every single damn thread. Your hatred is all to apparent Antony. Meantime.....Bigly continues to cry on his Twitter page. Hilarious comments!! (lol) (lol) https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/830042498806460417 Difference between me and you Bullet I condemn the all too familiar everyday somewhere in the world Muslim terrorism and I also condemn the odd white loon terrorists as well ... All scumbags in my book and I'd never stick up for them If your not trying to make a Muslim point why mention Muslims ??? ... Why wouldn't you just say temporary suspension ban of seven countries ??? ... You mention them again in yet another of your hate Trump threads "Trump suspends Muslim Immigrants" ... Why not just Trump suspends immigrants ??? Ill just add that you insinuate I hate Muslims ... Your wrong ... I have real issues with the Muslim world as I think its quite evil in a lot of its out dated backward thinking and that can't be defended ... You on the other hand defend it wether it treats women , non-believers , homosexuals and the rest in a barbaric fashion http://www.bedfordshire-news.co.uk/luton-men-to-be-sentenced-for-encouraging-support-for-isis-in-private-meetings/story-30126300-detail/story.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barryd999 Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 To be fair in the run up to the Election trump did state that he would be "banning ALL muslims until we find out whats going on". His words. Strangely this statement was pulled from his website the day of the election. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/donald-trump-president-election-muslim-ban-immigrants-website-statement-removed-a7408466.html Threat or no threat you just cannot single out 1.6 billion people in one statement until you "Figure out whats going on" FFS. *-) What sort of imbecilic statement is that? So of course when he carries it out throwing his weight around in his first few days there was bound to be outcry. I noticed on one of the twitter links BG posted earlier there was a link to a hate group map in the USA. 892!!! Presumably just the official known about ones. Everything from the KKK to Neo Nazis in there. Very worrying. https://www.splcenter.org/hate-map Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antony1969 Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 Barryd999 - 2017-02-10 4:35 PM To be fair in the run up to the Election trump did state that he would be "banning ALL muslims until we find out whats going on". His words. Strangely this statement was pulled from his website the day of the election. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/donald-trump-president-election-muslim-ban-immigrants-website-statement-removed-a7408466.html Threat or no threat you just cannot single out 1.6 billion people in one statement until you "Figure out whats going on" FFS. *-) What sort of imbecilic statement is that? So of course when he carries it out throwing his weight around in his first few days there was bound to be outcry. I noticed on one of the twitter links BG posted earlier there was a link to a hate group map in the USA. 892!!! Presumably just the official known about ones. Everything from the KKK to Neo Nazis in there. Very worrying. https://www.splcenter.org/hate-map Absolutely he did ... That was just after yet another France attack if I remember correctly ... When he says "till they figure out what the hell is going on" do remember thats done because he's protecting Americans ... Thats all Americans ... Christians , Jews , Hindus , MUSLIMS , native Indians and so on and so on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletguy Posted February 10, 2017 Author Share Posted February 10, 2017 antony1969 - 2017-02-10 4:00 PM Bulletguy - 2017-02-10 3:48 PM antony1969 - 2017-02-10 3:20 PM 9/11 happened some areas ago ... Though you haven't the rest of the world has moved on ... Oh so that's ok then eh? Yeah so was the Oklahoma bombing by that nice white all American boy who murdered 168 and injured over 600. So sod that.....we can forget about that, it's just old history. Wow.............just wow!!! 8-) You call it a Muslim Ban because it suits you to show Muslims as victims so dont lie please ... Actually if you read my posts and gave considered thought before jumping into your usual keyboard warrior mode you would see i wrote in my opening post, "the temporary suspension ban of seven Muslim countries." It's you who chose to twist that into "Muslim ban" in order to fit your Muslim agenda which you continue to bang at in every single damn thread. Your hatred is all to apparent Antony. Meantime.....Bigly continues to cry on his Twitter page. Hilarious comments!! (lol) (lol) https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/830042498806460417 Difference between me and you Bullet I condemn the all too familiar everyday somewhere in the world Muslim terrorism...... The difference between me and you Antony is i'm able to see the vast majority of Muslims are good decent people which you appear unable to accept. I don't tar the lot with the same brush purely because of motley bunch of extreme fundamentalists. Christ your abhorrence of them even extends to uttering the words seven Muslim countries now! *-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antony1969 Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 Bulletguy - 2017-02-10 6:07 PM antony1969 - 2017-02-10 4:00 PM Bulletguy - 2017-02-10 3:48 PM antony1969 - 2017-02-10 3:20 PM 9/11 happened some areas ago ... Though you haven't the rest of the world has moved on ... Oh so that's ok then eh? Yeah so was the Oklahoma bombing by that nice white all American boy who murdered 168 and injured over 600. So sod that.....we can forget about that, it's just old history. Wow.............just wow!!! 8-) You call it a Muslim Ban because it suits you to show Muslims as victims so dont lie please ... Actually if you read my posts and gave considered thought before jumping into your usual keyboard warrior mode you would see i wrote in my opening post, "the temporary suspension ban of seven Muslim countries." It's you who chose to twist that into "Muslim ban" in order to fit your Muslim agenda which you continue to bang at in every single damn thread. Your hatred is all to apparent Antony. Meantime.....Bigly continues to cry on his Twitter page. Hilarious comments!! (lol) (lol) https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/830042498806460417 Difference between me and you Bullet I condemn the all too familiar everyday somewhere in the world Muslim terrorism...... The difference between me and you Antony is i'm able to see the vast majority of Muslims are good decent people which you appear unable to accept. I don't tar the lot with the same brush purely because of motley bunch of extreme fundamentalists. Christ your abhorrence of them even extends to uttering the words seven Muslim countries now! *-) Nice try but a pathetic response ... Looks like your losing the argument as you choose not to answer my question ... In your own time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletguy Posted February 10, 2017 Author Share Posted February 10, 2017 antony1969 - 2017-02-10 6:15 PM Bulletguy - 2017-02-10 6:07 PM The difference between me and you Antony is i'm able to see the vast majority of Muslims are good decent people which you appear unable to accept. I don't tar the lot with the same brush purely because of motley bunch of extreme fundamentalists. Christ your abhorrence of them even extends to uttering the words seven Muslim countries now! *-) Nice try but a pathetic response ... Looks like your losing the argument as you choose not to answer my question ... In your own time. Hhmm.......question eh? What question?? All i've seen from your postings has been your usual xenophobic clap trap opinions and views. Those do not form 'a question.' *-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antony1969 Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 Bulletguy - 2017-02-10 8:18 PM antony1969 - 2017-02-10 6:15 PM Bulletguy - 2017-02-10 6:07 PM The difference between me and you Antony is i'm able to see the vast majority of Muslims are good decent people which you appear unable to accept. I don't tar the lot with the same brush purely because of motley bunch of extreme fundamentalists. Christ your abhorrence of them even extends to uttering the words seven Muslim countries now! *-) Nice try but a pathetic response ... Looks like your losing the argument as you choose not to answer my question ... In your own time. Hhmm.......question eh? What question?? All i've seen from your postings has been your usual xenophobic clap trap opinions and views. Those do not form 'a question.' *-) Mmmm ... Losing again so more personal insults ... Not like you dont know but its only a few posts back ... Your normally very good at looking back over old posts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletguy Posted February 10, 2017 Author Share Posted February 10, 2017 Forget Homeland Security.......the threat is on US soil already. Threats against judges in immigration ban cases leads to increased security DISGRACEFUL I doubt Trump will threaten them with "see you in Court" though. http://edition.cnn.com/2017/02/09/politics/judges-threatened-immigration-order/index.html Just like the filthy low life scum who made threats against Gina Miller and the Supreme Court judges here in UK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletguy Posted February 10, 2017 Author Share Posted February 10, 2017 antony1969 - 2017-02-10 8:33 PM Mmmm ... Losing again so more personal insults ... Not like you dont know but its only a few posts back ... Your normally very good at looking back over old posts So no actual question at all........just as i said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antony1969 Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 Bulletguy - 2017-02-10 8:40 PM antony1969 - 2017-02-10 8:33 PM Mmmm ... Losing again so more personal insults ... Not like you dont know but its only a few posts back ... Your normally very good at looking back over old posts So no actual question at all........just as i said. I'll translate ... You don't want to answer ... That's fine Bullet ... We still live in a free country ... I think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletguy Posted February 10, 2017 Author Share Posted February 10, 2017 antony1969 - 2017-02-10 8:45 PM I'll translate ... You don't want to answer ... That's fine Bullet ... I cannot answer a question you never asked.......despite your claim to having done so. Instead of throwing your toys out the pram......quote the post you asked this "question". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletguy Posted February 10, 2017 Author Share Posted February 10, 2017 Excellent reporting on Channel 4 news tonight. The law prevails over losers. He'd best get used to it. (lol) If he doesn't like it, then he should go open another Casino and lose some more money. (lol) https://www.channel4.com/news/court-refuses-to-endorse-trump-travel-ban Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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