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Barryd999 - 2017-02-14 8:23 PM

 

Problem is Dave it might seem cheap for wealthy motorhomers but what sort of rise in inflation, mortgage / interest rates, fuel and utilities can the average low paid or unemployed person endure? Most of them voted for Brexit but they sure dont want to pay for it. Oh dear.

 

Wages are also going up ;-) .......

 

 

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Barryd999 - 2017-02-14 8:23 PM

 

Problem is Dave it might seem cheap for wealthy motorhomers but what sort of rise in inflation, mortgage / interest rates, fuel and utilities can the average low paid or unemployed person endure? Most of them voted for Brexit but they sure dont want to pay for it. Oh dear.

 

But isn't that where you are wrong Barry ... Didn't the average low paid or unemployed person get told time and time again by most politicians and business leaders and our very own Bank of England during the debate that we'd be in the crap ( much worse than we actually are ) if we voted leave ??? ... If they were willing to be in the crap with all that deathly doom then surely the reality now which is much less than the predicted doom must be worth the price to them

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antony1969 - 2017-02-14 8:31 PM

 

Barryd999 - 2017-02-14 8:23 PM

 

Problem is Dave it might seem cheap for wealthy motorhomers but what sort of rise in inflation, mortgage / interest rates, fuel and utilities can the average low paid or unemployed person endure? Most of them voted for Brexit but they sure dont want to pay for it. Oh dear.

 

But isn't that where you are wrong Barry ... Didn't the average low paid or unemployed person get told time and time again by most politicians and business leaders and our very own Bank of England during the debate that we'd be in the crap ( much worse than we actually are ) if we voted leave ??? ... If they were willing to be in the crap with all that deathly doom then surely the reality now which is much less than the predicted doom must be worth the price to them

 

Didn't Mr Carney also say that the wages of the lower skilled were likely to rise, due to reduction in availability of cheap labour from the EU? >:-) ..........

 

 

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Barryd999 - 2017-02-14 8:23 PM

 

Problem is Dave it might seem cheap for wealthy motorhomers but what sort of rise in inflation, mortgage / interest rates, fuel and utilities can the average low paid or unemployed person endure? Most of them voted for Brexit but they sure dont want to pay for it. Oh dear.

 

But isn't that where you are wrong Barry ... Didn't the average low paid or unemployed person get told time and time again by most politicians and business leaders and our very own Bank of England during the debate that we'd be in the crap ( much worse than we actually are ) if we voted leave ??? ... If they were willing to be in the crap with all that deathly doom then surely the reality now which is much less than the predicted doom must be worth the price to them

 

Didn't Mr Carney also say that the wages of the lower skilled were likely to rise, due to reduction in availability of cheap labour from the EU? >:-) ..........

 

 

Do remember Dave the poor uneducated ( me included ) had an information overload during the referendum and that Carney info wouldn't have registered , way too much to take in ... The only thing that did register during the whole debate was that £350 million bus gig ... Thats why we left

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Barryd999 - 2017-02-14 8:23 PM

 

Problem is Dave it might seem cheap for wealthy motorhomers but what sort of rise in inflation, mortgage / interest rates, fuel and utilities can the average low paid or unemployed person endure? Most of them voted for Brexit but they sure dont want to pay for it. Oh dear.

 

But isn't that where you are wrong Barry ... Didn't the average low paid or unemployed person get told time and time again by most politicians and business leaders and our very own Bank of England during the debate that we'd be in the crap ( much worse than we actually are ) if we voted leave ??? ... If they were willing to be in the crap with all that deathly doom then surely the reality now which is much less than the predicted doom must be worth the price to them

 

No Antony. They were more convinced by "Vote Leave" that it was all "project fear" and chose to discount the experts warnings. The first chaos theory element of Brexit of course is that it didnt immediately happen and still hasnt so the impact was much less than anticipated as the experts predictions were based on the immediate invoking of article 50.

 

Already though we are starting to see the impact slowly creep in. Who knows, project fear as it was called and all the experts could all be wrong and we will sail through it, leave the EU and all will be rosy but lets be honest, who really believes that? I suspect Project Fear has perhaps started to sink in a bit with some as possibly being project highly likely, hence the swing to remain.

 

I am pretty confident if it does go tits up in the next two years before we leave the support for Brexit will fall off a cliff.

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Yes as the thread title reads "Dog Begins to Bite" and this isn't no soppy poodle pup biting either.

 

Sonos hikes UK prices by 25% due to Brexit

 

Electronics firm joins Apple and Microsoft on a growing list of companies that have announced significant price increases in the UK since the Brexit vote following the EU referendum.

 

25% is a massive increase.

 

Inflation......Inflation......Inflation......and much much more yet to come as fuel prices increase post Brexit, the pound plummets and consumer costs get passed on to the customer as businesses can no longer absorb the increases.

 

https://www.channel4.com/news/inflation-rises-following-eu-referendum

 

Many small businesses will simply go to the wall throwing thousands of people out of work. Among them will be Brexit voters facing the harsh reality and questioning their crass stupidity of putting themselves out of a job.

 

 

 

 

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Barryd999 - 2017-02-14 11:35 PM

 

antony1969 - 2017-02-14 8:31 PM

 

Barryd999 - 2017-02-14 8:23 PM

 

Problem is Dave it might seem cheap for wealthy motorhomers but what sort of rise in inflation, mortgage / interest rates, fuel and utilities can the average low paid or unemployed person endure? Most of them voted for Brexit but they sure dont want to pay for it. Oh dear.

 

But isn't that where you are wrong Barry ... Didn't the average low paid or unemployed person get told time and time again by most politicians and business leaders and our very own Bank of England during the debate that we'd be in the crap ( much worse than we actually are ) if we voted leave ??? ... If they were willing to be in the crap with all that deathly doom then surely the reality now which is much less than the predicted doom must be worth the price to them

 

No Antony. They were more convinced by "Vote Leave" that it was all "project fear" and chose to discount the experts warnings. The first chaos theory element of Brexit of course is that it didnt immediately happen and still hasnt so the impact was much less than anticipated as the experts predictions were based on the immediate invoking of article 50.

 

Already though we are starting to see the impact slowly creep in. Who knows, project fear as it was called and all the experts could all be wrong and we will sail through it, leave the EU and all will be rosy but lets be honest, who really believes that? I suspect Project Fear has perhaps started to sink in a bit with some as possibly being project highly likely, hence the swing to remain.

 

I am pretty confident if it does go tits up in the next two years before we leave the support for Brexit will fall off a cliff.

 

Dream on Barry ... All the way along you've been throwing hurdles in the way saying it won't happen ... You pinned major hopes on the court cases and look whats happened ... It will happen and you won't like the deal ( if any ) so Im afraid your going to have to get used to it

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Bulletguy - 2017-02-15 12:20 AM

 

 

Yes as the thread title reads "Dog Begins to Bite" and this isn't no soppy poodle pup biting either.

 

Sonos hikes UK prices by 25% due to Brexit

 

Electronics firm joins Apple and Microsoft on a growing list of companies that have announced significant price increases in the UK since the Brexit vote following the EU referendum.

 

25% is a massive increase.

 

Inflation......Inflation......Inflation......and much much more yet to come as fuel prices increase post Brexit, the pound plummets and consumer costs get passed on to the customer as businesses can no longer absorb the increases.

 

https://www.channel4.com/news/inflation-rises-following-eu-referendum

 

Many small businesses will simply go to the wall throwing thousands of people out of work. Among them will be Brexit voters facing the harsh reality and questioning their crass stupidity of putting themselves out of a job.

 

 

 

 

With a bit of luck interest rates will have to go up B-) ..........

 

 

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antony1969 - 2017-02-15 6:37 AM

 

Barryd999 - 2017-02-14 11:35 PM

 

antony1969 - 2017-02-14 8:31 PM

 

Barryd999 - 2017-02-14 8:23 PM

 

Problem is Dave it might seem cheap for wealthy motorhomers but what sort of rise in inflation, mortgage / interest rates, fuel and utilities can the average low paid or unemployed person endure? Most of them voted for Brexit but they sure dont want to pay for it. Oh dear.

 

But isn't that where you are wrong Barry ... Didn't the average low paid or unemployed person get told time and time again by most politicians and business leaders and our very own Bank of England during the debate that we'd be in the crap ( much worse than we actually are ) if we voted leave ??? ... If they were willing to be in the crap with all that deathly doom then surely the reality now which is much less than the predicted doom must be worth the price to them

 

No Antony. They were more convinced by "Vote Leave" that it was all "project fear" and chose to discount the experts warnings. The first chaos theory element of Brexit of course is that it didnt immediately happen and still hasnt so the impact was much less than anticipated as the experts predictions were based on the immediate invoking of article 50.

 

Already though we are starting to see the impact slowly creep in. Who knows, project fear as it was called and all the experts could all be wrong and we will sail through it, leave the EU and all will be rosy but lets be honest, who really believes that? I suspect Project Fear has perhaps started to sink in a bit with some as possibly being project highly likely, hence the swing to remain.

 

I am pretty confident if it does go tits up in the next two years before we leave the support for Brexit will fall off a cliff.

 

Dream on Barry ... All the way along you've been throwing hurdles in the way saying it won't happen ... You pinned major hopes on the court cases and look whats happened ... It will happen and you won't like the deal ( if any ) so Im afraid your going to have to get used to it

 

The court case delivered exactly what I expected, a role for parliament and the prevention of TM and her swivel eyed nutcases having a free reign on Brexit. Thanks to Gina Miller we now have the ability to reign in and have some control. Of course you could be right and we could end up just crashing out of the EU with a crap deal or no deal but equally we could end up with a much softer Brexit or no Brexit at all. This isnt over by a long way. Its not even started yet.

 

I honestly think we wont have to do anything to stop it. I Think it will stop itself once people realise it was a terrible idea and "project fear" starts to become a reality. If I am wrong then so be it, ill hold my hands up and let you rejoice in your Brexit but how confident are you really?

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Barryd999 - 2017-02-15 8:51 AM

 

I honestly think we wont have to do anything to stop it. I Think it will stop itself once people realise it was a terrible idea and "project fear" starts to become a reality. If I am wrong then so be it, ill hold my hands up and let you rejoice in your Brexit but how confident are you really?

 

You mean like our pound euro exchange rate ;-) ......which is currently well above levels last seen in 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 which were incidentally all before DC gave us a referendum >:-) ........

 

 

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Barryd999 - 2017-02-15 8:51 AM

 

antony1969 - 2017-02-15 6:37 AM

 

Barryd999 - 2017-02-14 11:35 PM

 

antony1969 - 2017-02-14 8:31 PM

 

Barryd999 - 2017-02-14 8:23 PM

 

Problem is Dave it might seem cheap for wealthy motorhomers but what sort of rise in inflation, mortgage / interest rates, fuel and utilities can the average low paid or unemployed person endure? Most of them voted for Brexit but they sure dont want to pay for it. Oh dear.

 

But isn't that where you are wrong Barry ... Didn't the average low paid or unemployed person get told time and time again by most politicians and business leaders and our very own Bank of England during the debate that we'd be in the crap ( much worse than we actually are ) if we voted leave ??? ... If they were willing to be in the crap with all that deathly doom then surely the reality now which is much less than the predicted doom must be worth the price to them

 

No Antony. They were more convinced by "Vote Leave" that it was all "project fear" and chose to discount the experts warnings. The first chaos theory element of Brexit of course is that it didnt immediately happen and still hasnt so the impact was much less than anticipated as the experts predictions were based on the immediate invoking of article 50.

 

Already though we are starting to see the impact slowly creep in. Who knows, project fear as it was called and all the experts could all be wrong and we will sail through it, leave the EU and all will be rosy but lets be honest, who really believes that? I suspect Project Fear has perhaps started to sink in a bit with some as possibly being project highly likely, hence the swing to remain.

 

I am pretty confident if it does go tits up in the next two years before we leave the support for Brexit will fall off a cliff.

 

Dream on Barry ... All the way along you've been throwing hurdles in the way saying it won't happen ... You pinned major hopes on the court cases and look whats happened ... It will happen and you won't like the deal ( if any ) so Im afraid your going to have to get used to it

 

The court case delivered exactly what I expected, a role for parliament and the prevention of TM and her swivel eyed nutcases having a free reign on Brexit. Thanks to Gina Miller we now have the ability to reign in and have some control. Of course you could be right and we could end up just crashing out of the EU with a crap deal or no deal but equally we could end up with a much softer Brexit or no Brexit at all. This isnt over by a long way. Its not even started yet.

 

I honestly think we wont have to do anything to stop it. I Think it will stop itself once people realise it was a terrible idea and "project fear" starts to become a reality. If I am wrong then so be it, ill hold my hands up and let you rejoice in your Brexit but how confident are you really?

 

hi,

if my reading of the process is correct, once article 50 is invoked we are out, just the terms of leaving to be negotiated. I dont think we can say at the end that we dont like the leave deal and are staying in. Think we have to reapply for membership.

cheers

derek

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pelmetman - 2017-02-15 8:59 AM

 

You mean like our pound euro exchange rate ;-) ......which is currently well above levels last seen in 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 which were incidentally all before DC gave us a referendum >:-) ........

 

 

Why do you persist in comparing the pound ony with the Euro?

The Euro is also negatively affected by Brexit (although not as much as the pound)

If you want to see the effect of Brexit, at least compare it with an external currency like the US Dollar - which most commodities are priced in, or better still a trade weighted basket of currencies.

Then you will be in for a shock 8-)

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derek pringle - 2017-02-15 9:09 AM

 

Barryd999 - 2017-02-15 8:51 AM

 

antony1969 - 2017-02-15 6:37 AM

 

Barryd999 - 2017-02-14 11:35 PM

 

antony1969 - 2017-02-14 8:31 PM

 

Barryd999 - 2017-02-14 8:23 PM

 

Problem is Dave it might seem cheap for wealthy motorhomers but what sort of rise in inflation, mortgage / interest rates, fuel and utilities can the average low paid or unemployed person endure? Most of them voted for Brexit but they sure dont want to pay for it. Oh dear.

 

But isn't that where you are wrong Barry ... Didn't the average low paid or unemployed person get told time and time again by most politicians and business leaders and our very own Bank of England during the debate that we'd be in the crap ( much worse than we actually are ) if we voted leave ??? ... If they were willing to be in the crap with all that deathly doom then surely the reality now which is much less than the predicted doom must be worth the price to them

 

No Antony. They were more convinced by "Vote Leave" that it was all "project fear" and chose to discount the experts warnings. The first chaos theory element of Brexit of course is that it didnt immediately happen and still hasnt so the impact was much less than anticipated as the experts predictions were based on the immediate invoking of article 50.

 

Already though we are starting to see the impact slowly creep in. Who knows, project fear as it was called and all the experts could all be wrong and we will sail through it, leave the EU and all will be rosy but lets be honest, who really believes that? I suspect Project Fear has perhaps started to sink in a bit with some as possibly being project highly likely, hence the swing to remain.

 

I am pretty confident if it does go tits up in the next two years before we leave the support for Brexit will fall off a cliff.

 

Dream on Barry ... All the way along you've been throwing hurdles in the way saying it won't happen ... You pinned major hopes on the court cases and look whats happened ... It will happen and you won't like the deal ( if any ) so Im afraid your going to have to get used to it

 

The court case delivered exactly what I expected, a role for parliament and the prevention of TM and her swivel eyed nutcases having a free reign on Brexit. Thanks to Gina Miller we now have the ability to reign in and have some control. Of course you could be right and we could end up just crashing out of the EU with a crap deal or no deal but equally we could end up with a much softer Brexit or no Brexit at all. This isnt over by a long way. Its not even started yet.

 

I honestly think we wont have to do anything to stop it. I Think it will stop itself once people realise it was a terrible idea and "project fear" starts to become a reality. If I am wrong then so be it, ill hold my hands up and let you rejoice in your Brexit but how confident are you really?

 

hi,

if my reading of the process is correct, once article 50 is invoked we are out, just the terms of leaving to be negotiated. I dont think we can say at the end that we dont like the leave deal and are staying in. Think we have to reapply for membership.

cheers

derek

 

Thats what people think. ;-)

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I don't know about anybody else but I'm quite looking forward to getting my share of that 340 million quid a week figure that was plastered all over the side of the(Polish and German manufactured!) Brexit bus...

 

Does anyone know if we'll be getting in the form of weekly cheques or bank drafts ? or will we need to give'em our sort code and account number and get it paid straight in...? :D :D

 

 

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Barryd999 - 2017-02-15 8:51 AM

 

antony1969 - 2017-02-15 6:37 AM

 

Barryd999 - 2017-02-14 11:35 PM

 

antony1969 - 2017-02-14 8:31 PM

 

Barryd999 - 2017-02-14 8:23 PM

 

Problem is Dave it might seem cheap for wealthy motorhomers but what sort of rise in inflation, mortgage / interest rates, fuel and utilities can the average low paid or unemployed person endure? Most of them voted for Brexit but they sure dont want to pay for it. Oh dear.

 

But isn't that where you are wrong Barry ... Didn't the average low paid or unemployed person get told time and time again by most politicians and business leaders and our very own Bank of England during the debate that we'd be in the crap ( much worse than we actually are ) if we voted leave ??? ... If they were willing to be in the crap with all that deathly doom then surely the reality now which is much less than the predicted doom must be worth the price to them

 

No Antony. They were more convinced by "Vote Leave" that it was all "project fear" and chose to discount the experts warnings. The first chaos theory element of Brexit of course is that it didnt immediately happen and still hasnt so the impact was much less than anticipated as the experts predictions were based on the immediate invoking of article 50.

 

Already though we are starting to see the impact slowly creep in. Who knows, project fear as it was called and all the experts could all be wrong and we will sail through it, leave the EU and all will be rosy but lets be honest, who really believes that? I suspect Project Fear has perhaps started to sink in a bit with some as possibly being project highly likely, hence the swing to remain.

 

I am pretty confident if it does go tits up in the next two years before we leave the support for Brexit will fall off a cliff.

 

Dream on Barry ... All the way along you've been throwing hurdles in the way saying it won't happen ... You pinned major hopes on the court cases and look whats happened ... It will happen and you won't like the deal ( if any ) so Im afraid your going to have to get used to it

 

The court case delivered exactly what I expected, a role for parliament and the prevention of TM and her swivel eyed nutcases having a free reign on Brexit. Thanks to Gina Miller we now have the ability to reign in and have some control. Of course you could be right and we could end up just crashing out of the EU with a crap deal or no deal but equally we could end up with a much softer Brexit or no Brexit at all. This isnt over by a long way. Its not even started yet.

 

I honestly think we wont have to do anything to stop it. I Think it will stop itself once people realise it was a terrible idea and "project fear" starts to become a reality. If I am wrong then so be it, ill hold my hands up and let you rejoice in your Brexit but how confident are you really?

 

I say again Barry ... Dream on ... Thank Gina Miller for what her book when it comes out ??? ... You've just had it go through with no amendments so what control are you talking about ???? For once I agree with what Nicola Sturgeon said in reply to Corbyns comment on the work starts now ... In afraid for you it's either a hard Tory deal or no deal ... Enjoy it

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The BoE are aiming for 2% inflation ;-) ........

 

We're still below that and have been for quite a while, funny how any rise in inflation has suddenly become the end of the world? *-) ..........

 

The sooner they put up interest rates the better in my book.......then we'll see the pound rocket and us savers will get some return on our money.......every cloud etc etc >:-) ........

 

 

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pepe63 - 2017-02-15 10:14 AM

 

I don't know about anybody else but I'm quite looking forward to getting my share of that 340 million quid a week figure that was plastered all over the side of the (Polish and German manufactured!) Brexit bus...

 

Does anyone know if we'll be getting in the form of weekly cheques or bank drafts ? or will we need to give'em our sort code and account number and get it paid straight in...? :D :D

 

As if the £350 million quid lie wasn't bad enough, the rank hypocrisy of using a German/Polish manufactured bus just beggared belief! Batty Boris was pictured stepping out of the bus with something British though...........a Cornish pastie. *-)

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/05/11/boris-johnson-began-his-vote-leave-campaign-on-bus-made-in-germa/

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Bulletguy - 2017-02-15 1:48 PM

 

pepe63 - 2017-02-15 10:14 AM

 

I don't know about anybody else but I'm quite looking forward to getting my share of that 340 million quid a week figure that was plastered all over the side of the (Polish and German manufactured!) Brexit bus...

 

Does anyone know if we'll be getting in the form of weekly cheques or bank drafts ? or will we need to give'em our sort code and account number and get it paid straight in...? :D :D

 

As if the £350 million quid lie wasn't bad enough, the rank hypocrisy of using a German/Polish manufactured bus just beggared belief! Batty Boris was pictured stepping out of the bus with something British though...........a Cornish pastie. *-)

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/05/11/boris-johnson-began-his-vote-leave-campaign-on-bus-made-in-germa/

 

I would of thought the choice of bus used was down to who ever they hired the bus from ;-) ..........

 

Do you expect to have a choice of base vehicle when you use your bus pass? *-) .........

 

Another non story from the Remoaner brigade (lol) ........

 

 

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pelmetman - 2017-02-15 1:34 PM

 

The sooner they put up interest rates the better in my book.......then we'll see the pound rocket and us savers will get some return on our money.......every cloud etc etc >:-) ........

 

Dream on.......business rates up 400%. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/12/28/theresa-may-urged-reconsider-penal-rises-business-rates-companies/

 

A woman on the radio now, £9,200 to £27,500. A guy phoned in, current rate £27k a year.......new rate £40k. So that's them finished.

 

You'd best invest in a log burner........you'll need it to burn all those overpriced pelmets you won't be able to sell. (lol) (lol)

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pelmetman - 2017-02-15 1:34 PM

 

The sooner they put up interest rates the better in my book.......then we'll see the pound rocket and us savers will get some return on our money.......every cloud etc etc >:-) ........

 

Dream on.......business rates up 400%. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/12/28/theresa-may-urged-reconsider-penal-rises-business-rates-companies/

 

A woman on the radio now, £9,200 to £27,500. A guy phoned in, current rate £27k a year.......new rate £40k. So that's them finished.

 

You'd best invest in a log burner........you'll need it to burn all those overpriced pelmets you won't be able to sell. (lol) (lol)

 

Its just as well I've retired then innit, but as a sole trader with no full time employees I was exempt :D .........

 

That said business rates have been due a major overhaul for years........and if they're as pernicious as you're suggesting then the high street will be killed off.......and I doubt any government will intentionally kill its golden goose ;-) ........

 

Besides as I understand it those businesses in the poorer parts of the UK will see their rates drop, so its only those people in the more effluent areas of the UK that will be paying higher prices, seems fair to me >:-) .......

 

NEXT Remoaner bad news story please? (lol) .........

 

 

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