plwsm2000 Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 I am looking to replace the rubber hose that connect the refillable cylinder to the regulator and I come across these stainless steel hoses. https://www.bes.co.uk/450-mm-stainless-steel-braided-pigtail-assembly-striaght-through-butane-nut-x-w20-nut-tail#product-details-tab They are about 1/2 of the price of the gaslow equivalent and conform to the same spec. (EN10380). Has anyone any experience of these? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barryrj Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 Just my opinion but for safety reasons I would not buy a cheap gas hose. You are only saving £10 or so over a period of 10 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keithl Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 The Gaslow equivalent is near £30 but has a life of 20 years, you pay your money and take your pick! I bought Gaslow a few years ago but then they where the only option for Stainless. Keith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbo Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 Consider ordering the 750mm s/s hoses. I originally ordered the 450mm s/s hoses but found they were too short for my installation. The minimum bending radius of the s/s hose doesn't seem as much as that for the rubber hose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keithl Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 Robbo - 2017-02-28 5:50 PM Consider ordering the 750mm s/s hoses. I originally ordered the 450mm s/s hoses but found they were too short for my installation. The minimum bending radius of the s/s hose doesn't seem as much as that for the rubber hose. Very good point Robbo! I originally used a single 450 mm hose and had to buy a 90 degree adaptor as it would not bend over from the top of the regulator whereas the rubber hose had. I now have two 750 mm hoses and a manual changeover valve. Much easier to swap cylinders especially in the dark or when its peeing down! Keith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek Uzzell Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 BES Ltd is a long-established reputable company specialising in supplying plumbing and gas-related products. https://www.bes.co.uk/who-are-bes/ The stainless-steel gas ‘pigtails’ inquired about are quoted in the BES catalogue as complying to the EN 10380:2003 standard (now superseded apparently) indicating that their construction comprises the same type of corrugated metal core as used for the Gaslow equivalents There’s no persuasive reason to believe that the BES pigtails are of inferior quality to other more-expensive products marketed by Gaslow, Truma, etc. (In fact, if I’d been aware that these pigtails were available from BES, I would have bought them rather than the two Gaslow s/s hoses I purchased one of which had a loose ferrule.) BES offers stainless-steel ‘butane’ pigtails with a length of 450mm, 750mm or 1500m https://www.bes.co.uk/450-mm-stainless-steel-braided-pigtail-assembly-striaght-through-butane-nut-x-w20-nut-tail https://www.bes.co.uk/750-mm-stainless-steel-braided-pigtail-assembly-striaght-through-butane-nut-x-w20-nut-tail#product-details-tab https://www.bes.co.uk/1500-mm-stainless-steel-braided-pigtail-assembly-striaght-through-butane-nut-x-w20-nut-tail The regulations relating to the maximum length of a gas pigtail to be used in a leisure vehicle were discussed in this 2013 forum thread http://forums.outandaboutlive.co.uk/forums/Motorhomes/Motorhome-Matters/Pigtails/33203/ (Not directly on topic, but I noticed at the NEC that that Gaslow has modified the valve-assembly of their R67 refillable canisters. The original assembly had a small-diameter metal On/Off ‘wheel’ (on left of attached photo) and the gas-outlet (at rear of photo) tended to point upwards, potentially complicating routing of a gas pigtail if the gas-locker had a low ceiling. The latest assembly has a much larger plastic On/Off knob and the gas-outlet now emerges horizontally from the valve-assembly rather than being a 90-degree angled fitting. The Gaslow representative told me that they will provide the latest type of horizontal gas-outlet (which just screws into the valve-assembly replacing the angled version) free of charge to people who ask for it.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EMS Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 We had Gaslow system installed some 8/9 years ago with the metal pipes so no worry with leaks from perished gas pipes? Oh no, we have had to replace the rubber seals on the pipe joints as they have perished after 5/6 years, so this year we changed all the washers again as it was difficult to find the leaking washer. So beware of the concept of fit and forget for 20 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek Uzzell Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 Gaslow’s advice regarding their stainless-steel gas-hoses is that they should be replaced after 20 years. I’m not aware that Gaslow warrants their s/s hoses for 20 years and they definitely won’t advise that the sealing washers have a 20-year life-span. The sealing washers are ‘generic’, so it’s quite likely that motorhome/caravan dealerships will have some in stock. It might also be worth noting Dave Newell’s comments in this 2013 forum thread http://forums.outandaboutlive.co.uk/forums/Motorhomes/Motorhome-Matters/Gaslow-Pigtails/33150/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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