Bulletguy Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 This looks to be another good documentary on Channel 4 tonight at 10pm "Extremely British Muslims". Bound to "upset" the dynamic duo who won't have any view on the actual documentary itself whatsoever! *-) http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/showbiz-tv/extremely-british-muslims-birmingham-mosque-12511863?service=responsive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 Bulletguy - 2017-03-02 9:21 PM This looks to be another good documentary on Channel 4 tonight at 10pm "Extremely British Muslims". Bound to "upset" the dynamic duo who won't have any view on the actual documentary itself whatsoever! *-) http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/showbiz-tv/extremely-british-muslims-birmingham-mosque-12511863?service=responsive Oh you mean that documentary where blokes only have to say I divorce you 3 times ;-) .....where as women have to put up with years of violence before they can get a divorce *-) ...... Well done BG another big up for misogynists everywhere >:-) ...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletguy Posted March 2, 2017 Author Share Posted March 2, 2017 pelmetman - 2017-03-02 9:35 PM Bulletguy - 2017-03-02 9:21 PM This looks to be another good documentary on Channel 4 tonight at 10pm "Extremely British Muslims". Bound to "upset" the dynamic duo who won't have any view on the actual documentary itself whatsoever! *-) http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/showbiz-tv/extremely-british-muslims-birmingham-mosque-12511863?service=responsive Oh you mean that documentary where blokes only have to say I divorce you 3 times ;-) .....where as women have to put up with years of violence before they can get a divorce *-) ...... Well done BG another big up for misogynists everywhere >:-) ...... It's not been broadcast yet...... *-) .....but i shall view it so i'm able to form unbiased opinions rather than conjecture. You should try it sometime Dave. Your viewpoints would be taken a bit more seriously if you did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 Bulletguy - 2017-03-02 9:51 PM pelmetman - 2017-03-02 9:35 PM Bulletguy - 2017-03-02 9:21 PM This looks to be another good documentary on Channel 4 tonight at 10pm "Extremely British Muslims". Bound to "upset" the dynamic duo who won't have any view on the actual documentary itself whatsoever! *-) http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/showbiz-tv/extremely-british-muslims-birmingham-mosque-12511863?service=responsive Oh you mean that documentary where blokes only have to say I divorce you 3 times ;-) .....where as women have to put up with years of violence before they can get a divorce *-) ...... Well done BG another big up for misogynists everywhere >:-) ...... It's not been broadcast yet...... *-) .....but i shall view it so i'm able to form unbiased opinions rather than conjecture. You should try it sometime Dave. Your viewpoints would be taken a bit more seriously if you did. Don't need to watch any BBC or Channel 4 propaganda, as they come from the same PC teat *-) ....... When they emerge from the dark ages I might give them some credence :-| ........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antony1969 Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 This explains it all then ... Its TVs fault they run off to join ISIS ... Who ever this actor is he tells it in a Bulletguy kind of way ... Gawd help us https://amp.theguardian.com/culture/2017/mar/02/riz-ahmed-warns-lack-of-diversity-on-tv-will-drive-young-to-isis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebishbus Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 Good program on BBC 2 last night , ' The Attack Terror in the UK ' worth watching if you did not see it. Brian B. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 antony1969 - 2017-03-03 6:22 AM This explains it all then ... Its TVs fault they run off to join ISIS ... Who ever this actor is he tells it in a Bulletguy kind of way ... Gawd help us https://amp.theguardian.com/culture/2017/mar/02/riz-ahmed-warns-lack-of-diversity-on-tv-will-drive-young-to-isis I don't have an issue with those who want to join ISIS........So long as we don't let them return to the UK :-| ...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletguy Posted March 3, 2017 Author Share Posted March 3, 2017 thebishbus - 2017-03-03 8:33 AM Good program on BBC 2 last night , ' The Attack Terror in the UK ' worth watching if you did not see it. Yes i spotted that too Brian but couldn't record as i'd already got two channels running so will watch that on iplayer. Not usually a big fan of drama documentaries but watched the 2 part one about the wrongful arrest of Christopher Jefferies over the Joanna Yates murder, and how the media pursued him in a wicked witch hunt. Jason Watkins, the actor who played Jefferies gave an Oscar winning performance. Absolutely brilliant. https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/nov/29/christopher-jefferies-tv-joanna-yeates-murder Back on topic, it proved a fascinating insight on how younger generation Muslims aren't always following their parents wishes to marry 'early' (ie before 30 which imo is 'late'!). The culture of an arranged marriage was interesting. Allowed to meet socially but no physical contact. Ok i get that. But the meeting between young woman looking for husband and young man, a wife, which took place in a Restaurant was good. Young woman, qualified Aircraft engineer so good job and certainly no dim 'bimbo' type. Young man was an accountant so he too had a good job.....but things got really interesting when she asked him what he was looking for in a woman. "Well she must be able to cook well and know how to look after me....". She replied, "and if your wife is ill or working a long shift, who will do the cooking and care for the house then?" "Well she will know how to cook so would cook her own meal and if i have children, then i'd expect her to become my wife full time and stay at home". Cheerio bye you're not for me......she soon got that sorted! (lol) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barryd999 Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 I just watched it. A very interesting look at marriage within Islam. What I found both amusing and interesting was the way the young women seem to have become empowered. Even the guy that was running the big marriage meeting event (Cant remember what it was called) said that the women now rule the roost. I found myself feeling a bit sorry for the blokes who were like rabbits in the headlights with these very confident and westernised women. However its clear there is a bit of conflict in what the men see as marriage leaning more to the traditional Muslim marriage where the woman is a bit of a second class citizen, cook and baby producer and the women now rejecting the old ways, going to university, having careers and expecting the men to pull their weight. From that Documentary it seems the women are winning that battle. Good for them. It would certainly appear to me that the old traditional ways of doing things are very much being updated with western values. The two young girls who were really funny seemed to have a happy balance of both. Its worth a look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletguy Posted March 3, 2017 Author Share Posted March 3, 2017 Barryd999 - 2017-03-03 3:44 PM I just watched it. A very interesting look at marriage within Islam. What I found both amusing and interesting was the way the young women seem to have become empowered. Even the guy that was running the big marriage meeting event (Cant remember what it was called) said that the women now rule the roost. I found myself feeling a bit sorry for the blokes who were like rabbits in the headlights with these very confident and westernised women. However its clear there is a bit of conflict in what the men see as marriage leaning more to the traditional Muslim marriage where the woman is a bit of a second class citizen, cook and baby producer and the women now rejecting the old ways, going to university, having careers and expecting the men to pull their weight. From that Documentary it seems the women are winning that battle. Good for them. It would certainly appear to me that the old traditional ways of doing things are very much being updated with western values. The two young girls who were really funny seemed to have a happy balance of both. Its worth a look. Yes it's all a generation thing really. For example, the young guy whose mum wanted him to get married, whilst he worshipped his mum and thought the world of her, i got the impression he wasn't in any rush to get married and joked about it. He was still happy living with the ease and comforts the "home of mum and dad" provided! Some years ago i knew a chap who went through an arranged marriage. After my dad died, my mum took in lodgers to help her maintain the house. Terry, an Asian chap was the second one who turned up on her doorstep. Whilst my mum wasn't racist in any way, she'd always been a bit narrow minded about "foreigners" ( (lol) ), but when Terry arrived he blew her away with his opening line...."hello, my names Terry and i called about the room....i have had a shower today but i can't seem to get whiter!!" So my mum took an instant liking to his wacko sense of humour and the room was his! He was a Manager at the Michelin factory in Stoke and lodged at my mums for about two years. Then he told my mum his parents had arranged a marriage which he'd agreed to. Mum was shocked as she didn't agree with that at all but of course it was not her business. When Terry married they invited my mum to their wedding and she kept in touch with them both, often going over to sit chatting with his wife. Arranged marriage certainly worked for them as 37 years on they are both still married with three children......during which time i've married and divorced twice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antony1969 Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 Bulletguy - 2017-03-03 4:50 PM Barryd999 - 2017-03-03 3:44 PM I just watched it. A very interesting look at marriage within Islam. What I found both amusing and interesting was the way the young women seem to have become empowered. Even the guy that was running the big marriage meeting event (Cant remember what it was called) said that the women now rule the roost. I found myself feeling a bit sorry for the blokes who were like rabbits in the headlights with these very confident and westernised women. However its clear there is a bit of conflict in what the men see as marriage leaning more to the traditional Muslim marriage where the woman is a bit of a second class citizen, cook and baby producer and the women now rejecting the old ways, going to university, having careers and expecting the men to pull their weight. From that Documentary it seems the women are winning that battle. Good for them. It would certainly appear to me that the old traditional ways of doing things are very much being updated with western values. The two young girls who were really funny seemed to have a happy balance of both. Its worth a look. Yes it's all a generation thing really. For example, the young guy whose mum wanted him to get married, whilst he worshipped his mum and thought the world of her, i got the impression he wasn't in any rush to get married and joked about it. He was still happy living with the ease and comforts the "home of mum and dad" provided! Some years ago i knew a chap who went through an arranged marriage. After my dad died, my mum took in lodgers to help her maintain the house. Terry, an Asian chap was the second one who turned up on her doorstep. Whilst my mum wasn't racist in any way, she'd always been a bit narrow minded about "foreigners" ( (lol) ), but when Terry arrived he blew her away with his opening line...."hello, my names Terry and i called about the room....i have had a shower today but i can't seem to get whiter!!" So my mum took an instant liking to his wacko sense of humour and the room was his! He was a Manager at the Michelin factory in Stoke and lodged at my mums for about two years. Then he told my mum his parents had arranged a marriage which he'd agreed to. Mum was shocked as she didn't agree with that at all but of course it was not her business. When Terry married they invited my mum to their wedding and she kept in touch with them both, often going over to sit chatting with his wife. Arranged marriage certainly worked for them as 37 years on they are both still married with three children......during which time i've married and divorced twice! Makes you wonder what the divorce rate is in the Muslim world ... Low I would imagine ... Probably more honour killings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletguy Posted March 3, 2017 Author Share Posted March 3, 2017 antony1969 - 2017-03-03 5:01 PM Makes you wonder what the divorce rate is in the Muslim world ... Low I would imagine ... Probably more honour killings Two of those on the documentary were divorced and it also showed one who applied for divorce after her husband got involved in drugs. She got her divorce. Instead of posting speculative comments, why don't you view and then come back to the thread? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antony1969 Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 Bulletguy - 2017-03-03 6:07 PM antony1969 - 2017-03-03 5:01 PM Makes you wonder what the divorce rate is in the Muslim world ... Low I would imagine ... Probably more honour killings Two of those on the documentary were divorced and it also showed one who applied for divorce after her husband got involved in drugs. She got her divorce. Instead of posting speculative comments, why don't you view and then come back to the thread? That doesn't answer my question ... Because two were divorced on a TV programme with its own agenda that does not answer my Muslim divorce rates query ... Instead of believing a TV programme being representative of the facts you should check them and then come back to the thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletguy Posted March 3, 2017 Author Share Posted March 3, 2017 antony1969 - 2017-03-03 6:27 PM Bulletguy - 2017-03-03 6:07 PM antony1969 - 2017-03-03 5:01 PM Makes you wonder what the divorce rate is in the Muslim world ... Low I would imagine ... Probably more honour killings Two of those on the documentary were divorced and it also showed one who applied for divorce after her husband got involved in drugs. She got her divorce. Instead of posting speculative comments, why don't you view and then come back to the thread? That doesn't answer my question ... Because two were divorced on a TV programme with its own agenda that does not answer my Muslim divorce rates query ... Instead of believing a TV programme being representative of the facts you should check them and then come back to the thread. The question of divorce rate can be easily found if you look at the ONS site which shows factual statistics so you should check that. I already have but as you want to know you can do your own searching. However you won't find what you want to read because it covers divorce as a whole......it's not defined by ethnicity or religion so you will be disappointed by that. The most current data release was taken in 2014 and though divorce is on a decline, so is marriage too which explains the drop in figures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted March 4, 2017 Share Posted March 4, 2017 Bulletguy - 2017-03-03 8:28 PM The question of divorce rate can be easily found if you look at the ONS site which shows factual statistics so you should check that. I already have but as you want to know you can do your own searching. However you won't find what you want to read because it covers divorce as a whole......it's not defined by ethnicity or religion so you will be disappointed by that. That's convenient for those who want Sharia law to become mainstream in the UK *-) ........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletguy Posted March 4, 2017 Author Share Posted March 4, 2017 pelmetman - 2017-03-04 7:56 AM Bulletguy - 2017-03-03 8:28 PM The question of divorce rate can be easily found if you look at the ONS site which shows factual statistics so you should check that. I already have but as you want to know you can do your own searching. However you won't find what you want to read because it covers divorce as a whole......it's not defined by ethnicity or religion so you will be disappointed by that. That's convenient for those who want Sharia law to become mainstream in the UK *-) ........ You're being silly again Dave. If married in a registered mosque then they must obtain a decree via the same procedures as everyone else in order to legally dissolve the marriage. Their procedure through Sharia court ends their nikah contract which UK courts cannot do. So unlike us, they have to go through two procedures.....not one over a bit of paper in a solicitors office. Your pitchfork mentality with Muslim people is worrying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antony1969 Posted March 4, 2017 Share Posted March 4, 2017 Bulletguy - 2017-03-04 3:25 PM pelmetman - 2017-03-04 7:56 AM Bulletguy - 2017-03-03 8:28 PM The question of divorce rate can be easily found if you look at the ONS site which shows factual statistics so you should check that. I already have but as you want to know you can do your own searching. However you won't find what you want to read because it covers divorce as a whole......it's not defined by ethnicity or religion so you will be disappointed by that. That's convenient for those who want Sharia law to become mainstream in the UK *-) ........ You're being silly again Dave. If married in a registered mosque then they must obtain a decree via the same procedures as everyone else in order to legally dissolve the marriage. Their procedure through Sharia court ends their nikah contract which UK courts cannot do. So unlike us, they have to go through two procedures.....not one over a bit of paper in a solicitors office. Your pitchfork mentality with Muslim people is worrying. Im guessing a male Muslim will not ask for a divorce as it probably brings shame on him and his family and more importantly as they treat women in caveman fashion why would a male ask for a divorce ??? He can do what he wants anyway after all ... A female I'm guessing will not ask for a divorce as it brings shame on her family and she'd probably end up in a pit in the back garden ... Im guessing the Muslim rate for divorce is very , very low but thats probably because they make the marriage work ... Or not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletguy Posted March 4, 2017 Author Share Posted March 4, 2017 antony1969 - 2017-03-04 5:58 PM Bulletguy - 2017-03-04 3:25 PM pelmetman - 2017-03-04 7:56 AM Bulletguy - 2017-03-03 8:28 PM The question of divorce rate can be easily found if you look at the ONS site which shows factual statistics so you should check that. I already have but as you want to know you can do your own searching. However you won't find what you want to read because it covers divorce as a whole......it's not defined by ethnicity or religion so you will be disappointed by that. That's convenient for those who want Sharia law to become mainstream in the UK *-) ........ You're being silly again Dave. If married in a registered mosque then they must obtain a decree via the same procedures as everyone else in order to legally dissolve the marriage. Their procedure through Sharia court ends their nikah contract which UK courts cannot do. So unlike us, they have to go through two procedures.....not one over a bit of paper in a solicitors office. Your pitchfork mentality with Muslim people is worrying. Im guessing a male Muslim will not ask for a divorce as........................................................................................................... Yet more sweeping generalisations full of your usual conjecture. *-) No opinion on the programme content then? *-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antony1969 Posted March 4, 2017 Share Posted March 4, 2017 Bulletguy - 2017-03-04 6:39 PM antony1969 - 2017-03-04 5:58 PM Bulletguy - 2017-03-04 3:25 PM pelmetman - 2017-03-04 7:56 AM Bulletguy - 2017-03-03 8:28 PM The question of divorce rate can be easily found if you look at the ONS site which shows factual statistics so you should check that. I already have but as you want to know you can do your own searching. However you won't find what you want to read because it covers divorce as a whole......it's not defined by ethnicity or religion so you will be disappointed by that. That's convenient for those who want Sharia law to become mainstream in the UK *-) ........ You're being silly again Dave. If married in a registered mosque then they must obtain a decree via the same procedures as everyone else in order to legally dissolve the marriage. Their procedure through Sharia court ends their nikah contract which UK courts cannot do. So unlike us, they have to go through two procedures.....not one over a bit of paper in a solicitors office. Your pitchfork mentality with Muslim people is worrying. Im guessing a male Muslim will not ask for a divorce as........................................................................................................... Yet more sweeping generalisations full of your usual conjecture. *-) No opinion on the programme content then? *-) Not generalisations Bullet but the truth ... A male if he wants to can divorce his bride fairly easily but that will bring shame on him ... A female will find it tougher to gain a divorce and that would bring deeper shame on her and possible repercussions ... My missus deals with such things at the charity she works for ... Some of the stories the Muslim women tell about leaving children behind and the violence is sickening but I'm sure thats all just generalising ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletguy Posted March 4, 2017 Author Share Posted March 4, 2017 antony1969 - 2017-03-04 6:53 PM Bulletguy - 2017-03-04 6:39 PM antony1969 - 2017-03-04 5:58 PM Bulletguy - 2017-03-04 3:25 PM pelmetman - 2017-03-04 7:56 AM Bulletguy - 2017-03-03 8:28 PM The question of divorce rate can be easily found if you look at the ONS site which shows factual statistics so you should check that. I already have but as you want to know you can do your own searching. However you won't find what you want to read because it covers divorce as a whole......it's not defined by ethnicity or religion so you will be disappointed by that. That's convenient for those who want Sharia law to become mainstream in the UK *-) ........ You're being silly again Dave. If married in a registered mosque then they must obtain a decree via the same procedures as everyone else in order to legally dissolve the marriage. Their procedure through Sharia court ends their nikah contract which UK courts cannot do. So unlike us, they have to go through two procedures.....not one over a bit of paper in a solicitors office. Your pitchfork mentality with Muslim people is worrying. Im guessing a male Muslim will not ask for a divorce as........................................................................................................... Yet more sweeping generalisations full of your usual conjecture. *-) No opinion on the programme content then? *-) Not generalisations Bullet but the truth ... Only in your world of rampant raging Islamaphobia. It's what you want to believe......you'd ignore Muslims which didn't fit your narrative. *-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barryd999 Posted March 4, 2017 Share Posted March 4, 2017 antony1969 - 2017-03-04 5:58 PM Bulletguy - 2017-03-04 3:25 PM pelmetman - 2017-03-04 7:56 AM Bulletguy - 2017-03-03 8:28 PM The question of divorce rate can be easily found if you look at the ONS site which shows factual statistics so you should check that. I already have but as you want to know you can do your own searching. However you won't find what you want to read because it covers divorce as a whole......it's not defined by ethnicity or religion so you will be disappointed by that. That's convenient for those who want Sharia law to become mainstream in the UK *-) ........ You're being silly again Dave. If married in a registered mosque then they must obtain a decree via the same procedures as everyone else in order to legally dissolve the marriage. Their procedure through Sharia court ends their nikah contract which UK courts cannot do. So unlike us, they have to go through two procedures.....not one over a bit of paper in a solicitors office. Your pitchfork mentality with Muslim people is worrying. Im guessing a male Muslim will not ask for a divorce as it probably brings shame on him and his family and more importantly as they treat women in caveman fashion why would a male ask for a divorce ??? He can do what he wants anyway after all ... A female I'm guessing will not ask for a divorce as it brings shame on her family and she'd probably end up in a pit in the back garden ... Im guessing the Muslim rate for divorce is very , very low but thats probably because they make the marriage work ... Or not Things are a changing though Antony. You really should watch the program. Your right to an extent that the way Muslim men view or used to view their women and treat them seems a bit caveman to us but the impression I got from the program is that is turning around. One of the young guys looking for a wife was a bit like that. Clearly he had been brought up to think that a wife would not mix with his friends, would be there to cook and clean and have babies but he soon came to realise on the dating circuit (or whatever they called it) the young women are having none of it! Good for them. He started to come around. As you know my family has Jordanian connections, my sister married one when she was 19. A lovely guy and I met many of his family. My sister travelled to Jordan a lot and she described the attitude to women as being 40 years behind the west. All the family I met that had not been westernised were a bit like that but the ones that had lived here or integrated in the UK or USA were very different. I honestly think the young want to embrace western culture much more and there seems to be a much more moderate version of ISLAM emerging which whilst keeping the faith also embraces western values. It would be great if we could all take the best bits from both cultures in the future. Young girls being repressed and not allowed to go out on their own or have boyfriends seems alien to us and unfair but on the other extreme young white girls sleeping around and having five kids by five different fathers by the time they are 20 is not much better. The youngsters will figure it out I am sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antony1969 Posted March 4, 2017 Share Posted March 4, 2017 Barryd999 - 2017-03-04 7:23 PM antony1969 - 2017-03-04 5:58 PM Bulletguy - 2017-03-04 3:25 PM pelmetman - 2017-03-04 7:56 AM Bulletguy - 2017-03-03 8:28 PM The question of divorce rate can be easily found if you look at the ONS site which shows factual statistics so you should check that. I already have but as you want to know you can do your own searching. However you won't find what you want to read because it covers divorce as a whole......it's not defined by ethnicity or religion so you will be disappointed by that. That's convenient for those who want Sharia law to become mainstream in the UK *-) ........ You're being silly again Dave. If married in a registered mosque then they must obtain a decree via the same procedures as everyone else in order to legally dissolve the marriage. Their procedure through Sharia court ends their nikah contract which UK courts cannot do. So unlike us, they have to go through two procedures.....not one over a bit of paper in a solicitors office. Your pitchfork mentality with Muslim people is worrying. Im guessing a male Muslim will not ask for a divorce as it probably brings shame on him and his family and more importantly as they treat women in caveman fashion why would a male ask for a divorce ??? He can do what he wants anyway after all ... A female I'm guessing will not ask for a divorce as it brings shame on her family and she'd probably end up in a pit in the back garden ... Im guessing the Muslim rate for divorce is very , very low but thats probably because they make the marriage work ... Or not Things are a changing though Antony. You really should watch the program. Your right to an extent that the way Muslim men view or used to view their women and treat them seems a bit caveman to us but the impression I got from the program is that is turning around. One of the young guys looking for a wife was a bit like that. Clearly he had been brought up to think that a wife would not mix with his friends, would be there to cook and clean and have babies but he soon came to realise on the dating circuit (or whatever they called it) the young women are having none of it! Good for them. He started to come around. As you know my family has Jordanian connections, my sister married one when she was 19. A lovely guy and I met many of his family. My sister travelled to Jordan a lot and she described the attitude to women as being 40 years behind the west. All the family I met that had not been westernised were a bit like that but the ones that had lived here or integrated in the UK or USA were very different. I honestly think the young want to embrace western culture much more and there seems to be a much more moderate version of ISLAM emerging which whilst keeping the faith also embraces western values. It would be great if we could all take the best bits from both cultures in the future. Young girls being repressed and not allowed to go out on their own or have boyfriends seems alien to us and unfair but on the other extreme young white girls sleeping around and having five kids by five different fathers by the time they are 20 is not much better. The youngsters will figure it out I am sure. The young males want to enjoy western culture ... Embracing it is a different thing altogether ... Im afraid to say for me the youngsters will not figure it out ... They will do as they have been doing for years and become more divided ... The best bits of the Muslim culture I presume aren't beatings and honour killings and I dont know where your moderate version of Islam exists Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antony1969 Posted March 4, 2017 Share Posted March 4, 2017 Bulletguy - 2017-03-04 7:07 PM antony1969 - 2017-03-04 6:53 PM Bulletguy - 2017-03-04 6:39 PM antony1969 - 2017-03-04 5:58 PM Bulletguy - 2017-03-04 3:25 PM pelmetman - 2017-03-04 7:56 AM Bulletguy - 2017-03-03 8:28 PM The question of divorce rate can be easily found if you look at the ONS site which shows factual statistics so you should check that. I already have but as you want to know you can do your own searching. However you won't find what you want to read because it covers divorce as a whole......it's not defined by ethnicity or religion so you will be disappointed by that. That's convenient for those who want Sharia law to become mainstream in the UK *-) ........ You're being silly again Dave. If married in a registered mosque then they must obtain a decree via the same procedures as everyone else in order to legally dissolve the marriage. Their procedure through Sharia court ends their nikah contract which UK courts cannot do. So unlike us, they have to go through two procedures.....not one over a bit of paper in a solicitors office. Your pitchfork mentality with Muslim people is worrying. Im guessing a male Muslim will not ask for a divorce as........................................................................................................... Yet more sweeping generalisations full of your usual conjecture. *-) No opinion on the programme content then? *-) Not generalisations Bullet but the truth ... Only in your world of rampant raging Islamaphobia. It's what you want to believe......you'd ignore Muslims which didn't fit your narrative. *-) As you ignore any bad press regarding Muslims Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletguy Posted March 4, 2017 Author Share Posted March 4, 2017 Barryd999 - 2017-03-04 7:23 PM Things are a changing though Antony. He doesn't want to hear that. You really should watch the program. He won't.........ever. Fear of anything informative that won't suit his bigoted beliefs. *-) antony1969 - 2017-03-04 7:40 PM As you ignore any bad press regarding Muslims Racist Islamaphobia yes, the specialty of the Fail........media reports about wacko fundamentalists, no. There's a vast difference and unlike you, i'm able to clearly separate the two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antony1969 Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 Bulletguy - 2017-03-04 8:34 PM Barryd999 - 2017-03-04 7:23 PM Things are a changing though Antony. He doesn't want to hear that. You really should watch the program. He won't.........ever. Fear of anything informative that won't suit his bigoted beliefs. *-) antony1969 - 2017-03-04 7:40 PM As you ignore any bad press regarding Muslims Racist Islamaphobia yes, the specialty of the Fail........media reports about wacko fundamentalists, no. There's a vast difference and unlike you, i'm able to clearly separate the two. Wrong ... I would love to hear things are changing ... Unfortunately what I see here locally and nationally totally goes against that ... Barry living in a whites only village is hardly a strong argument for better integration either ... As for your TV programme ... Why do I need to watch that when I live with it ??? ... I dont particularly read The Mail so couldn't say wether its a racist , Islamaphobic paper ... If it is then I'm sure the paper will have been warned / fined / threatened by the regulators regarding its behaviour ... You'll show me proof of that of course ... You can separate Muslim homophobia , mysogony , anti-semitism from non Muslim homophobia , mysogony and anti-semitism too can't you ... One in the name of a wacko religion you think OK ... The other not done in the name of a wacko religion not ... Wacko fundamentalists with a lot of everyday walking amongst us supporters ... Frightening isn't it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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