nimod Posted March 4, 2017 Share Posted March 4, 2017 clutch pedal boot first attempt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin Posted March 4, 2017 Share Posted March 4, 2017 Couple of points. When you've been the owner of many Vauxhalls over the years driving with no clutch is second nature. It would be better if the padlock body was enclosed as much as possible, if you can get a jemmy or claw hammer between body and casing then it can be removed faster than you could with a key, something I've demonstrated to several people. From my point of view additional security needs to be one (or both) of two things, it either needs to make stealing much more difficult, so an attack on a isolated van is foiled, or it needs to make the van less attractive to steal than the one next to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordonaldson Posted March 4, 2017 Share Posted March 4, 2017 Good idea but Bolt Cutter can get to the shackle of the lock..No point in locks when Bolt Cutters are around.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John52 Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 gordonaldson - 2017-03-04 8:50 PM Good idea but Bolt Cutter can get to the shackle of the lock..No point in locks when Bolt Cutters are around.. Will bolt cutters cut a hardened padlock shackle? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John52 Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 colin - 2017-03-04 5:37 PM if you can get a jemmy or claw hammer between body and casing then it can be removed faster than you could with a key, something I've demonstrated to several people. . True. We tend to forget thieves aren't bothered how much damage they do. We try to turn a steering wheel and think its locked. They just put a crowbar in and snap the lock. As an individual owner you can use things that wouldn't work if the manufacturer fitted them because everyone would know how they work. Like a secret switch that cuts off some vital function. ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Bajcar Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 If they want to steal it badly enough they would find a way but this would certainly be a deterrent. Referring to the image of Boot 1, I suggest that a little more metal is needed on the right to cover the hasp of the lock to stop a bolt cropper getting onto it and it is a good idea. I like it ! Mick Bajcar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordonaldson Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 I would say that bolt cutters will shear hardened shackles but Hacksaws will not look at them. However the new tool on the block is the Battery Angle Grinder with cutting disc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Bajcar Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 The crime prevention term is target hardening, making things more difficult for a thief. An opportunist thief is unlikely to be able to steal the motorhome with this device, though one who went sufficiently well prepared would no doubt be able to get it away, though if they have to spend time in doing so, their chances of getting caught increase. Mick Bajcar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mgnbuk Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 I got one of these Ebay 252054327587 that fits the new Transit clutch pedal snugly. The Transit has a steel clutch pedal so this works OK, but the opening is too narrow to fit the Ducato X250 plastic clutch pedal. This would act as a "slowing down" additional security measure, as the Transit requires the clutch pedal to be depresed before the vehicle can be started. Being a shackle -less "shutter" type padlock, it would be a bit more awkward to cut off in the limited room available. In all probability nothing would stop a determined theif - the best I hope to acheive is to make mine look less starightforward to take so they move on to the easier pickings. Nigel B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nimod Posted March 7, 2017 Author Share Posted March 7, 2017 OK then NO Padlock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muswell Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 gordonaldson - 2017-03-05 1:19 PM I would say that bolt cutters will shear hardened shackles but Hacksaws will not look at them. However the new tool on the block is the Battery Angle Grinder with cutting disc. A neighbour bought a nice new BMW motorbike which he kept in his front garden. It went after a few weeks. He concreted in a nice big steel tube to which he attached the replacement. I think someone was waiting for the replacement to arrive and duly came equipped with such an angle grinder. He gave up on motorbikes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 We have a similar home made contraption for Horace ;-) .......but it doesn't just fit the clutch pedal :D ...... Although we use it religiously every time we leave the van in a car park, aire etc , I doubt old Horace is a prime target (lol) ...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John52 Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 Practically impossible to drive away a modern vehicle without the key - which they usually get by burglary, pickpocketing, car jacking or whatever. If you have a secret switch and they hold a knife to your throat, you can happily give them the key knowing it won't start the van (lol) PS: and flicking the switch is so easy when you know how, your anti theft device is more likely to get used every time than something you have got to take out and fit to the floor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 But with an anti theft switch a thief will try to take it, damaging the locks glass and god knows what. I had a big heavy yellow plate over the peddles in my Land Rover and nobody bothered with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John52 Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 Charles - 2017-03-11 9:13 AM But with an anti theft switch a thief will try to take it, damaging the locks glass and god knows what. I had a big heavy yellow plate over the peddles in my Land Rover and nobody bothered with it. But these things only work when you use them. Flicking a secret switch is likely to get used more often than fixing a contraption to the pedals - even if you don't have the added inconvenience of a padlock and key everytime :-S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archiesgrandad Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 You don't need a big yellow plate over pedals to make a Landrover not worth stealing. AGD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John52 Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 Land Rovers are sought after because they are easily dismantled into spare parts - which there is a ready demand for as Land Rovers tend to get knocked about. But any anti theft device that uses a key presents another problem, apart from inconvenience. What do you do with the key? If you put it on the key ring its useless when the thief gets the keys. And if you lose the key.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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