Jump to content

Thinking of giving again


antony1969

Recommended Posts

The work of but a moment...;-)

 

https://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/Attractions-g187526-Activities- Calpe_Costa_Blanca_Province_of_Alicante_Valencian_Country.html

 

https://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/Attractions-g190748-Activities-Huddersfield_West_Yorkshire_England.html

 

and for your usual "quarry", when he arrives....

 

https://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/Attractions-g186232-Activities-Cheshire_England.html

 

 

(there must be something in those to help you break the monotony of your empty days?... :D )

 

If not, enjoy another of your fun packed day "fishing" :D :D

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Guest pelmetman
pepe63 - 2017-03-17 8:25 AM

 

The work of but a moment...;-)

 

https://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/Attractions-g187526-Activities- Calpe_Costa_Blanca_Province_of_Alicante_Valencian_Country.html

 

https://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/Attractions-g190748-Activities-Huddersfield_West_Yorkshire_England.html

 

and for your usual "quarry", when he arrives....

 

https://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/Attractions-g186232-Activities-Cheshire_England.html

 

 

(there must be something in those to help you break the monotony of your empty days?... :D )

 

If not, enjoy another of your fun packed day "fishing" :D :D

 

I prefer non contact blood sports :D .........

 

Like loony lefty baiting >:-) .......

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Ok Ill bite as I am clearly one of the Loony Lefties (even though I am not at least one of those).

 

I dont know how much truth is in that article but clearly mistakes were made but here is the thing, Live aid whether it was a success or not at the time changed the world and helped steer both the public and governments views towards famine relief for ever. Many great and long lasting fund raising charities and organisations rose on the back of it and from the early days of unorganised chaos with good intentions have developed many good and successful well run charitable organisations that do good work. Mistakes were made and learned from but the important thing is that they changed the worlds attitudes to world famine and crisis globally right up to government level.

 

Yes we now face an even bigger crisis in "The same old places" as you so nicely describe it Antony and hopefully now that these charities are more organised aid will be more efficient although I fear a "band aid" is all it can be as the outlook is very bleak,

 

What do you Swivel Eyed loonies (Goose & Gander) suggest we do then? Just ignore it all?

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Guest pelmetman
Barryd999 - 2017-03-17 9:14 AM

 

What do you Swivel Eyed loonies (Goose & Gander) suggest we do then? Just ignore it all?

 

Or give them money and make it worse? :-| .........

 

In my view aid should be given in the form of food and medicines and tents, and overseen by the United Nations....... Nobody else........There are to many Band aid band wagons with vested interests and overpaid CEO's making a fortune out of a crisis *-) .......

 

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Barryd999 - 2017-03-17 9:14 AM

 

Ok Ill bite as I am clearly one of the Loony Lefties (even though I am not at least one of those).

 

I dont know how much truth is in that article but clearly mistakes were made but here is the thing, Live aid whether it was a success or not at the time changed the world and helped steer both the public and governments views towards famine relief for ever. Many great and long lasting fund raising charities and organisations rose on the back of it and from the early days of unorganised chaos with good intentions have developed many good and successful well run charitable organisations that do good work. Mistakes were made and learned from but the important thing is that they changed the worlds attitudes to world famine and crisis globally right up to government level.

 

Yes we now face an even bigger crisis in "The same old places" as you so nicely describe it Antony and hopefully now that these charities are more organised aid will be more efficient although I fear a "band aid" is all it can be as the outlook is very bleak,

 

What do you Swivel Eyed loonies (Goose & Gander) suggest we do then? Just ignore it all?

 

Nope don't ignore it ... Although ignoring things like Christian persecution seems to be OK ... Blank cheques to corrupt governments haven't worked much in the past ... A response like Old Goose says would be better ... Maybe if Europe hadn't been foolish and blindly conned by millions of economic migrants over the last few years and the crippling costs that have come from that then European governments might have had some of our money to give ... Strange old world

Link to comment
Share on other sites

pelmetman - 2017-03-17 9:29 AM

 

Barryd999 - 2017-03-17 9:14 AM

 

What do you Swivel Eyed loonies (Goose & Gander) suggest we do then? Just ignore it all?

 

Or give them money and make it worse? :-| .........

 

In my view aid should be given in the form of food and medicines and tents, and overseen by the United Nations....... Nobody else........There are to many Band aid band wagons with vested interests and overpaid CEO's making a fortune out of a crisis *-) .......

 

 

I dont think anyone ever did just hand over money and thats certainly not the case now. As said many lessons have been learned but despite the intentions of the OP article you cannot deny that it was Band Aid and Live Aid and ultimately Bob Geldof and Midge Ure that changed the world regarding third world charity. Nobody can think that is a bad thing surely.

 

What makes you think all these charities have a vested interest by the way? Vested interest in what? As for overpaid CEO's this one comes up all the time. People who have no idea how large organisations work assume that all its workers including the CEO should somehow work for free or less. Thats never going to work. Why should they anyway? You have to pay the going rate or better to get the best people in any organisation. My biggest client is a charity and they do superb work but everyone is paid including myself otherwise they wouldnt exist.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Guest pelmetman
Barryd999 - 2017-03-17 10:40 AM

 

pelmetman - 2017-03-17 9:29 AM

 

Barryd999 - 2017-03-17 9:14 AM

 

What do you Swivel Eyed loonies (Goose & Gander) suggest we do then? Just ignore it all?

 

Or give them money and make it worse? :-| .........

 

In my view aid should be given in the form of food and medicines and tents, and overseen by the United Nations....... Nobody else........There are to many Band aid band wagons with vested interests and overpaid CEO's making a fortune out of a crisis *-) .......

 

 

I dont think anyone ever did just hand over money and thats certainly not the case now. As said many lessons have been learned but despite the intentions of the OP article you cannot deny that it was Band Aid and Live Aid and ultimately Bob Geldof and Midge Ure that changed the world regarding third world charity. Nobody can think that is a bad thing surely.

 

What makes you think all these charities have a vested interest by the way? Vested interest in what? As for overpaid CEO's this one comes up all the time. People who have no idea how large organisations work assume that all its workers including the CEO should somehow work for free or less. Thats never going to work. Why should they anyway? You have to pay the going rate or better to get the best people in any organisation. My biggest client is a charity and they do superb work but everyone is paid including myself otherwise they wouldnt exist.

 

So why so many famine relief charities?.......are they not all doing the same job that the United Nations should be doing? *-) ........

 

They'd be a dam sight more money in the pot to feed the starving as well :-| ......

 

But hey why apply common sense when so many people can have their snouts in the trough eh? ;-) ......

 

https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2017/feb/09/uk-foreign-aid-investigations-quadruple-in-last-five-years

 

 

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Barryd999 - 2017-03-17 10:40 AM

 

pelmetman - 2017-03-17 9:29 AM

 

Barryd999 - 2017-03-17 9:14 AM

 

What do you Swivel Eyed loonies (Goose & Gander) suggest we do then? Just ignore it all?

 

Or give them money and make it worse? :-| .........

 

In my view aid should be given in the form of food and medicines and tents, and overseen by the United Nations....... Nobody else........There are to many Band aid band wagons with vested interests and overpaid CEO's making a fortune out of a crisis *-) .......

 

 

I dont think anyone ever did just hand over money and thats certainly not the case now. As said many lessons have been learned but despite the intentions of the OP article you cannot deny that it was Band Aid and Live Aid and ultimately Bob Geldof and Midge Ure that changed the world regarding third world charity. Nobody can think that is a bad thing surely.

 

What makes you think all these charities have a vested interest by the way? Vested interest in what? As for overpaid CEO's this one comes up all the time. People who have no idea how large organisations work assume that all its workers including the CEO should somehow work for free or less. Thats never going to work. Why should they anyway? You have to pay the going rate or better to get the best people in any organisation. My biggest client is a charity and they do superb work but everyone is paid including myself otherwise they wouldnt exist.

 

My missus works for a big charity ... Due to mis-spending a lot have lost their jobs in the last year ... The top dog in the last couple of weeks mysteriously didn't return to work again and the staff were told he's left for "personal reasons" ... Ye !

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Barryd999 - 2017-03-17 10:40 AM

 

pelmetman - 2017-03-17 9:29 AM

 

Barryd999 - 2017-03-17 9:14 AM

 

What do you Swivel Eyed loonies (Goose & Gander) suggest we do then? Just ignore it all?

 

Or give them money and make it worse? :-| .........

 

In my view aid should be given in the form of food and medicines and tents, and overseen by the United Nations....... Nobody else........There are to many Band aid band wagons with vested interests and overpaid CEO's making a fortune out of a crisis *-) .......

 

 

I dont think anyone ever did just hand over money and thats certainly not the case now. As said many lessons have been learned but despite the intentions of the OP article you cannot deny that it was Band Aid and Live Aid and ultimately Bob Geldof and Midge Ure that changed the world regarding third world charity. Nobody can think that is a bad thing surely.

 

What makes you think all these charities have a vested interest by the way? Vested interest in what? As for overpaid CEO's this one comes up all the time. People who have no idea how large organisations work assume that all its workers including the CEO should somehow work for free or less. Thats never going to work. Why should they anyway? You have to pay the going rate or better to get the best people in any organisation. My biggest client is a charity and they do superb work but everyone is paid including myself otherwise they wouldnt exist.

 

Highly paid CEOs generally have fundraising targets so they bring in a lot more money than they are paid. If they spend £1m fundraising £2m then on paper its a success and they have 'earned their 6 figure salaries - as it would be in a commercial business.. But they reality is that £2m is likely to have come from people who can ill afford it, and it would have gone to other charities who wouldn't have spent half of it on fundraising. People only have so much money they can give to charity, its unfortunate if they give it all to the charities who spend the most of it on fundraising. So perhaps charities should not be run like commercial businesses raising the maximum amount of money whatever the cost.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

antony1969 - 2017-03-17 6:33 AM

 

Interesting read as we seem to be hitting yet another famine situation in the same old places ... http://www.spin.com/featured/live-aid-the-terrible-truth-ethiopia-bob-geldof-feature/

 

So Sir Bob Geldorf got knighted for fundraising like Sir Jimmy Savile ?

But even right wing Tories have got a taste for going abroad being treated like Royalty because they are handing other people's money out in foreign aid. Whilst they are closing homeless shelters in London to pay for it :-S

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Link to comment
Share on other sites

antony1969 - 2017-03-17 7:09 PM

 

 

Those companies I presume aren't breaking any law ??? ... What has getting ripped off emotionally giving to charity got to do with unpaid UK tax ???

Yes some are breaking the law as made clear in those links. As for charity donations this is the difference;

 

Choice.

 

Everyone has a choice over donating to a charity...........people don't choose to unwittingly and unknowingly be paying out millions a year to subsidise tax fraud, error and unpaid taxes.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Bulletguy - 2017-03-17 8:46 PM

 

antony1969 - 2017-03-17 7:09 PM

 

 

Those companies I presume aren't breaking any law ??? ... What has getting ripped off emotionally giving to charity got to do with unpaid UK tax ???

Yes some are breaking the law as made clear in those links. As for charity donations this is the difference;

 

Choice.

 

Everyone has a choice over donating to a charity...........people don't choose to unwittingly and unknowingly be paying out millions a year to subsidise tax fraud, error and unpaid taxes.

 

Tax loopholes aren't breaking the law are they ??? ... I bet most sole traders and small businesses have broken tax laws more than any of those big multi-national companies have and I can't remember hearing in this country of major tax fraud cases against Starbucks and the likes ... Tax fraud is a crime obviously , error and unpaid tax not necessarily so and I dont choose to subsidise chancer migrants here and abroad or give away billions in foreign aid to many scams , crooked countries or doomed projects but as part of my tax payments I have to accept that and I have to accept that I pay towards tax fraud too ... Charity fraud and wasting money is something quite different

Link to comment
Share on other sites

pelmetman - 2017-03-18 8:38 AM

 

At least RemOAners are still giving to their favourite BREXIT charity :D ......

 

UK PLC >:-) .......

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4322960/Remainers-spending-Leavers.html

 

 

Just as well we are then really isnt it? If the leavers are so confident with Brexit why have they stopped spending? The Irony is that those that voted leave have the most to lose as they are generally more likely to be poorer. I can only deduct from that what ive thought for a long time. Secretly they are crapping themselves. Just about everyone I know up here voted remain and nearly all of them are wealthy enough to be able to ride out a recession or hardship no problem. The areas I have spent time working in over the years in the North East however that predominately voted out have lived on a knife edge for as long as I can remember and certainly since the last recession. They simply cannot afford another one. I suspect thats one reason once the penny dropped that there was a huge swing to Remain in the Tyne Tees region last year a while after the referendum.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Barryd999 - 2017-03-18 8:57 AM

 

pelmetman - 2017-03-18 8:38 AM

 

At least RemOAners are still giving to their favourite BREXIT charity :D ......

 

UK PLC >:-) .......

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4322960/Remainers-spending-Leavers.html

 

 

Just as well we are then really isnt it? If the leavers are so confident with Brexit why have they stopped spending? The Irony is that those that voted leave have the most to lose as they are generally more likely to be poorer. I can only deduct from that what ive thought for a long time. Secretly they are crapping themselves. Just about everyone I know up here voted remain and nearly all of them are wealthy enough to be able to ride out a recession or hardship no problem. The areas I have spent time working in over the years in the North East however that predominately voted out have lived on a knife edge for as long as I can remember and certainly since the last recession. They simply cannot afford another one. I suspect thats one reason once the penny dropped that there was a huge swing to Remain in the Tyne Tees region last year a while after the referendum.

 

"Secretly they are crapping themselves" ... No they are not ... I'm one of them and like you who only knows Remainers I only know Leave voters and they are not crapping themselves at all ... You put a lot of faith in a Tyne Tees poll or any other poll , have you not learned anything regarding polls ... Trust me Leave voters just want to get on with it and the likes of you and Windy Miller whinging only help to cement that more ... Your hanging on to some crazy notion that one day soon everybody is guna wake up and decide leaving was a bad idea .... Ding-a-Ling it ain't guna happen

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Guest pelmetman
antony1969 - 2017-03-18 9:25 AM

 

Barryd999 - 2017-03-18 8:57 AM

 

pelmetman - 2017-03-18 8:38 AM

 

At least RemOAners are still giving to their favourite BREXIT charity :D ......

 

UK PLC >:-) .......

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4322960/Remainers-spending-Leavers.html

 

 

Just as well we are then really isnt it? If the leavers are so confident with Brexit why have they stopped spending? The Irony is that those that voted leave have the most to lose as they are generally more likely to be poorer. I can only deduct from that what ive thought for a long time. Secretly they are crapping themselves. Just about everyone I know up here voted remain and nearly all of them are wealthy enough to be able to ride out a recession or hardship no problem. The areas I have spent time working in over the years in the North East however that predominately voted out have lived on a knife edge for as long as I can remember and certainly since the last recession. They simply cannot afford another one. I suspect thats one reason once the penny dropped that there was a huge swing to Remain in the Tyne Tees region last year a while after the referendum.

 

"Secretly they are crapping themselves" ... No they are not ... I'm one of them and like you who only knows Remainers I only know Leave voters and they are not crapping themselves at all ... You put a lot of faith in a Tyne Tees poll or any other poll , have you not learned anything regarding polls ... Trust me Leave voters just want to get on with it and the likes of you and Windy Miller whinging only help to cement that more ... Your hanging on to some crazy notion that one day soon everybody is guna wake up and decide leaving was a bad idea .... Ding-a-Ling it ain't guna happen

 

You'd think all these Remoaner doom mongers believed their own hyperbole wouldn't you? (lol) .......

 

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

antony1969 - 2017-03-18 9:25 AM

 

Barryd999 - 2017-03-18 8:57 AM

 

pelmetman - 2017-03-18 8:38 AM

 

At least RemOAners are still giving to their favourite BREXIT charity :D ......

 

UK PLC >:-) .......

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4322960/Remainers-spending-Leavers.html

 

 

Just as well we are then really isnt it? If the leavers are so confident with Brexit why have they stopped spending? The Irony is that those that voted leave have the most to lose as they are generally more likely to be poorer. I can only deduct from that what ive thought for a long time. Secretly they are crapping themselves. Just about everyone I know up here voted remain and nearly all of them are wealthy enough to be able to ride out a recession or hardship no problem. The areas I have spent time working in over the years in the North East however that predominately voted out have lived on a knife edge for as long as I can remember and certainly since the last recession. They simply cannot afford another one. I suspect thats one reason once the penny dropped that there was a huge swing to Remain in the Tyne Tees region last year a while after the referendum.

 

"Secretly they are crapping themselves" ... No they are not ... I'm one of them and like you who only knows Remainers I only know Leave voters and they are not crapping themselves at all ... You put a lot of faith in a Tyne Tees poll or any other poll , have you not learned anything regarding polls ... Trust me Leave voters just want to get on with it and the likes of you and Windy Miller whinging only help to cement that more ... Your hanging on to some crazy notion that one day soon everybody is guna wake up and decide leaving was a bad idea .... Ding-a-Ling it ain't guna happen

 

You clearly come from a hardcore and one could almost say radical Brexit heartland Antony so you might be right but there is plenty of Bregret elsewhere. Over 90% of leave voters said they are not prepared to be worse off for Brexit so presumably they cant afford it and are unwilling to pay for it so if they are not crapping themselves now then they soon will be.

 

One of us is going to be proved very wrong sooner or later though huh? I dunno which do you? Ill give you a clue though, its not me. :D

 

Who the ferk is Windy Miller by the way? Do you mean that nice lady who fought for our Democracy?

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Barryd999 - 2017-03-18 10:48 AM

 

antony1969 - 2017-03-18 9:25 AM

 

Barryd999 - 2017-03-18 8:57 AM

 

pelmetman - 2017-03-18 8:38 AM

 

At least RemOAners are still giving to their favourite BREXIT charity :D ......

 

UK PLC >:-) .......

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4322960/Remainers-spending-Leavers.html

 

 

Just as well we are then really isnt it? If the leavers are so confident with Brexit why have they stopped spending? The Irony is that those that voted leave have the most to lose as they are generally more likely to be poorer. I can only deduct from that what ive thought for a long time. Secretly they are crapping themselves. Just about everyone I know up here voted remain and nearly all of them are wealthy enough to be able to ride out a recession or hardship no problem. The areas I have spent time working in over the years in the North East however that predominately voted out have lived on a knife edge for as long as I can remember and certainly since the last recession. They simply cannot afford another one. I suspect thats one reason once the penny dropped that there was a huge swing to Remain in the Tyne Tees region last year a while after the referendum.

 

"Secretly they are crapping themselves" ... No they are not ... I'm one of them and like you who only knows Remainers I only know Leave voters and they are not crapping themselves at all ... You put a lot of faith in a Tyne Tees poll or any other poll , have you not learned anything regarding polls ... Trust me Leave voters just want to get on with it and the likes of you and Windy Miller whinging only help to cement that more ... Your hanging on to some crazy notion that one day soon everybody is guna wake up and decide leaving was a bad idea .... Ding-a-Ling it ain't guna happen

 

You clearly come from a hardcore and one could almost say radical Brexit heartland Antony so you might be right but there is plenty of Bregret elsewhere. Over 90% of leave voters said they are not prepared to be worse off for Brexit so presumably they cant afford it and are unwilling to pay for it so if they are not crapping themselves now then they soon will be.

 

One of us is going to be proved very wrong sooner or later though huh? I dunno which do you? Ill give you a clue though, its not me. :D

 

Who the ferk is Windy Miller by the way? Do you mean that nice lady who fought for our Democracy?

 

Why on earth would it be radical Brexit land here ???? We dont go around wearing Union Flag Burkhas and preaching death to non-believing Remoaners ... I would say places in Lincolnshire would be the "radical" Brexit areas if they exist anywhere ... Where has this 90% of Brexit voters who aren't prepared to be worse off come from and when you say "worse off" that question could have been put to them in many ways such as I'm presuming worse case doomsday scenario ... Windy Miller is of course chat show regular , lover of her own voice and full time leader of the bitter and twisted Remoaners Gina ... Im glad you obviously appreciate democracy ... Why dont you start showing it a little more

Link to comment
Share on other sites

antony1969 - 2017-03-18 11:45 AM

 

Barryd999 - 2017-03-18 10:48 AM

 

antony1969 - 2017-03-18 9:25 AM

 

Barryd999 - 2017-03-18 8:57 AM

 

pelmetman - 2017-03-18 8:38 AM

 

At least RemOAners are still giving to their favourite BREXIT charity :D ......

 

UK PLC >:-) .......

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4322960/Remainers-spending-Leavers.html

 

 

Just as well we are then really isnt it? If the leavers are so confident with Brexit why have they stopped spending? The Irony is that those that voted leave have the most to lose as they are generally more likely to be poorer. I can only deduct from that what ive thought for a long time. Secretly they are crapping themselves. Just about everyone I know up here voted remain and nearly all of them are wealthy enough to be able to ride out a recession or hardship no problem. The areas I have spent time working in over the years in the North East however that predominately voted out have lived on a knife edge for as long as I can remember and certainly since the last recession. They simply cannot afford another one. I suspect thats one reason once the penny dropped that there was a huge swing to Remain in the Tyne Tees region last year a while after the referendum.

 

"Secretly they are crapping themselves" ... No they are not ... I'm one of them and like you who only knows Remainers I only know Leave voters and they are not crapping themselves at all ... You put a lot of faith in a Tyne Tees poll or any other poll , have you not learned anything regarding polls ... Trust me Leave voters just want to get on with it and the likes of you and Windy Miller whinging only help to cement that more ... Your hanging on to some crazy notion that one day soon everybody is guna wake up and decide leaving was a bad idea .... Ding-a-Ling it ain't guna happen

 

You clearly come from a hardcore and one could almost say radical Brexit heartland Antony so you might be right but there is plenty of Bregret elsewhere. Over 90% of leave voters said they are not prepared to be worse off for Brexit so presumably they cant afford it and are unwilling to pay for it so if they are not crapping themselves now then they soon will be.

 

One of us is going to be proved very wrong sooner or later though huh? I dunno which do you? Ill give you a clue though, its not me. :D

 

Who the ferk is Windy Miller by the way? Do you mean that nice lady who fought for our Democracy?

 

Why on earth would it be radical Brexit land here ???? We dont go around wearing Union Flag Burkhas and preaching death to non-believing Remoaners ... I would say places in Lincolnshire would be the "radical" Brexit areas if they exist anywhere ... Where has this 90% of Brexit voters who aren't prepared to be worse off come from and when you say "worse off" that question could have been put to them in many ways such as I'm presuming worse case doomsday scenario ... Windy Miller is of course chat show regular , lover of her own voice and full time leader of the bitter and twisted Remoaners Gina ... Im glad you obviously appreciate democracy ... Why dont you start showing it a little more

 

Oh come on! I'm in Morrisons car park now ffs! Go and find the 90% link yourself I've posted it often enough. As for supporting democracy I am doing exactly that. It is my domocratic right to oppose brexit, the populist uprising and anything else I think is rubbish. I asked a group of "mature" brexiteers once did they think it was fair or democratic to vote their children out of the eu when they wanted to stay and there answer was that they know best so I am saying the same to you. :D

 

As for your radical Brexit town, I just assumed as you keep telling me that everyone there you know voted out and shows no Bregret that they must all be hardened brexiteers in udders field :D I bet it's just you.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Barryd999 - 2017-03-18 1:57 PM

 

antony1969 - 2017-03-18 11:45 AM

 

Barryd999 - 2017-03-18 10:48 AM

 

antony1969 - 2017-03-18 9:25 AM

 

Barryd999 - 2017-03-18 8:57 AM

 

pelmetman - 2017-03-18 8:38 AM

 

At least RemOAners are still giving to their favourite BREXIT charity :D ......

 

UK PLC >:-) .......

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4322960/Remainers-spending-Leavers.html

 

 

Just as well we are then really isnt it? If the leavers are so confident with Brexit why have they stopped spending? The Irony is that those that voted leave have the most to lose as they are generally more likely to be poorer. I can only deduct from that what ive thought for a long time. Secretly they are crapping themselves. Just about everyone I know up here voted remain and nearly all of them are wealthy enough to be able to ride out a recession or hardship no problem. The areas I have spent time working in over the years in the North East however that predominately voted out have lived on a knife edge for as long as I can remember and certainly since the last recession. They simply cannot afford another one. I suspect thats one reason once the penny dropped that there was a huge swing to Remain in the Tyne Tees region last year a while after the referendum.

 

"Secretly they are crapping themselves" ... No they are not ... I'm one of them and like you who only knows Remainers I only know Leave voters and they are not crapping themselves at all ... You put a lot of faith in a Tyne Tees poll or any other poll , have you not learned anything regarding polls ... Trust me Leave voters just want to get on with it and the likes of you and Windy Miller whinging only help to cement that more ... Your hanging on to some crazy notion that one day soon everybody is guna wake up and decide leaving was a bad idea .... Ding-a-Ling it ain't guna happen

 

You clearly come from a hardcore and one could almost say radical Brexit heartland Antony so you might be right but there is plenty of Bregret elsewhere. Over 90% of leave voters said they are not prepared to be worse off for Brexit so presumably they cant afford it and are unwilling to pay for it so if they are not crapping themselves now then they soon will be.

 

One of us is going to be proved very wrong sooner or later though huh? I dunno which do you? Ill give you a clue though, its not me. :D

 

Who the ferk is Windy Miller by the way? Do you mean that nice lady who fought for our Democracy?

 

Why on earth would it be radical Brexit land here ???? We dont go around wearing Union Flag Burkhas and preaching death to non-believing Remoaners ... I would say places in Lincolnshire would be the "radical" Brexit areas if they exist anywhere ... Where has this 90% of Brexit voters who aren't prepared to be worse off come from and when you say "worse off" that question could have been put to them in many ways such as I'm presuming worse case doomsday scenario ... Windy Miller is of course chat show regular , lover of her own voice and full time leader of the bitter and twisted Remoaners Gina ... Im glad you obviously appreciate democracy ... Why dont you start showing it a little more

 

Oh come on! I'm in Morrisons car park now ffs! Go and find the 90% link yourself I've posted it often enough. As for supporting democracy I am doing exactly that. It is my domocratic right to oppose brexit, the populist uprising and anything else I think is rubbish. I asked a group of "mature" brexiteers once did they think it was fair or democratic to vote their children out of the eu when they wanted to stay and there answer was that they know best so I am saying the same to you. :D

 

As for your radical Brexit town, I just assumed as you keep telling me that everyone there you know voted out and shows no Bregret that they must all be hardened brexiteers in udders field :D I bet it's just you.

 

Of course its your right ... Just as its our right ( the winners ) to expect our wishes be carried out but at every opportunity you and the rest of the screaming pussy brigade starting with that Irish fella just after Brexit have tried to squash it ... You're even still banging on about a ruddy Tim Faggott style second referendum on the grounds we didnt know what we were doing when we voted out ... If thats respecting democracy then God help us ... Regarding Huddersfield ... Its a big town ... Its that big that Bullet calls it a city ... I dont know everyone here so can't speak for them all but yes your right practically all I know voted out and far from regretting it they want to crack on and leave 8-)

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

×
×
  • Create New...