Venice and Rijeka

[Grumpy Grandad]

Hi everyone.

We are going to various 1st World war cemeteries in France and Belgium at the end of September then on to Luxembourg. From Luxembourg the plan is then to go to Venice, followed by Rijeka.

We have a choice of various routes, either coming back into France and travelling to Venice via Annecy or going down through Austria. The Austrian route would only save us about 100 miles. Our motorhome is 4.25 tons and I would prefer to keep off any toll roads. Any advice would be much appreciated. Also is this journey feasible in 6 weeks?

 

Thanks

Stuart

[daviddwight]

Unless you really want to go to Annecy. Drop down from Luxembourg to Bodensee and take the Alpenstrasse which is along the German Austrian border as far as the road that links Munich and Innesbruck then through the Dolomites to Venice. It is a very scenic route and no tolls in Austria.

 

[Grumpy Grandad]

Hi David.

Thanks for the info. I will have a look at the route you suggested. We don't particularly need to go to Annecy, but I thought that as our motorhome is 4.25 tons we would have to have a go-box to travel through Austria

Thanks

Stuart

[nowtelse2do]

You will need a go-box if you use the Austrian motorway's if you're vehicle is over 3.5 tonne. Also if using the motorway, all vehicles under 3.5 tonne need a vignette, not sure if motorbikes do.

 

Dave

[mikebeaches]

Grumpy Grandad - 2017-08-06 10:29 AM

 

Hi David.

Thanks for the info. I will have a look at the route you suggested. We don't particularly need to go to Annecy, but I thought that as our motorhome is 4.25 tons we would have to have a go-box to travel through Austria

Thanks

Stuart

Believe go-box is only required if you travel on the motorway in Austria.

 

We were there for 12 days in June in the van. Didn't buy a vingette - in our case 3,500kg - until the end of the first week, because we weren't near or using any motorways. All good.

 

Mind you, I believe the Austrian police don't accept any excuses, and will issue a fine at any opportunity. Read the other day of somebody who was on a normal road which was closed at one point and traffic was diverted on to the motorway for a short distance - and the cops stopped and fined him in his van.

[lennyhb]

If you take the Austrian route Redipuglia in Italy well worth a visit Austro Hungarian WW1 memorial.

Although the car park says no Motorhomes 20:00-08:00, no problem spending the night their out of season, we did in September last year.

 

some info on my thread here . To see the photos full size you will need to register.

[mikebeaches]

By the way, if you're going to Rijeka, consider continuing on a few miles to the island of Krk. Don't worry, there's a bridge, so no ferries requied. In fact the airport for Rijeka is actually located on Krk. The scenery is pleasant and Krk town is lovely.

[nowtelse2do]

mikebeaches - 2017-08-06 10:56 AM

 

Grumpy Grandad - 2017-08-06 10:29 AM

 

Hi David.

Thanks for the info. I will have a look at the route you suggested. We don't particularly need to go to Annecy, but I thought that as our motorhome is 4.25 tons we would have to have a go-box to travel through Austria

Thanks

Stuart

Believe go-box is only required if you travel on the motorway in Austria.

 

We were there for 12 days in June in the van. Didn't buy a vingette - in our case 3,500kg - until the end of the first week, because we weren't near or using any motorways. All good.

 

Mind you, I believe the Austrian police don't accept any excuses, and will issue a fine at any opportunity. Read the other day of somebody who was on a normal road which was closed at one point and traffic was diverted on to the motorway for a short distance - and the cops stopped and fined him in his van.

 

I heard of a similar situation like that between Imst and Landeck last year.

 

Dave

 

 

 

 

[Grumpy Grandad]

Hi.

Sounds a bit naughty of the Austrian police to fine you when you have been diverted on to a motorway. Last year when we were in Germany we were assured we didn't need an Umweltplakette, but we were then diverted in to a Umwelt area. Fortunately no fine, but now we have both an Umwelt sticker and a French Crit'Air. Does anyone know the cost of a Go Box please.

 

Thankyou for all of your replies

Stuart

[daviddwight]

As long as you do not use the Austrian motorways there is no problem regarding weight our van is 3650 kg , by doing the Alpenstrasse you do not touch motorways.

 

But do take care on the way down to Innsbruck it is a very long hill down.

[Brian Kirby]

Try this:

Head by whatever route suits you in the general direction of Strasbourg, and cross the Rhine to Offenburg, and thence via Biberach, Schiltach, Rottweil, Albstat and Biberach an der Riss to Memingen, where you can pick up the A7 for just over 45 miles south toward Fussen. From Fussen, take the A7 south through the Grenztunnel, continuing via the Fernpass to Reutte, Biberwier, Nassereith, and Imst to Landeck (avoiding the A12 and consequent need for an autobahn Maut/Vignette). From Landeck take the L76/B180 south for Prutz, Nauders and the Reschenpass to Reschen/Resia and Italy. Continue on the SS40 via Mals/Malles Venosta to Merano, and on down the SS38 (Mebo) to Bolzano, and thence by whatever route you prefer to Venice.

 

This is a generally pleasant, toll (hence Austrian vignette/GoBox free) free, route through the Black Forest and across to Memmingen. The A7 south from Memmingen has the backdrop of the Alps. Both Fern and Reschen passes are good, two way, well graded, roads with little drama and in places spectacular scenery, but can be a bit slow in places due to trucks. Once to Resia pull over onto the car park by the lake for lunch/coffee, and enjoy the view of a church tower emerging from the depths! The SS40 is also a well graded descent to Merano although, like the Fern/Reschen passes, it can be a bit slow behind trucks. The SS38 (Mebo) is an excellent, fast, dual carriageway down a broad valley framed by the Alpine ridges on both sides.

[Grumpy Grandad]

Thanks Brian. This route looks good.

Any recommendations of sites near Venice would be appreciated. We will be using mainly aires and stellplatz on the way down but, as we have a dog we would prefer to be on electric when we are visiting Venice. We can then put a small 240v fan on when we go out.

 

Thanks. Stuart

[JeffersonCampervan]

Grumpy Grandad - 2017-08-09 6:27 AMThanks Brian. This route looks good. Any recommendations of sites near Venice would be appreciated. We will be using mainly aires and stellplatz on the way down but, as we have a dog we would prefer to be on electric when we are visiting Venice. We can then put a small 240v fan on when we go out. Thanks. Stuart

We stay on the Tronchetto Parking stellplatz when visiting Venice - electric & water; no vaporettos, you're right in Venice at the end of the causeway.

https://www.campercontact.com/en/italy/veneto-o-bl-pd-ro-tv-ve/venezia/5954/motorhome-parking-parcheggio-del-tronchetto.aspx

http://www.veniceparking.it/en/find-parking/Venezia%20Tronchetto%20Bus%20and%20Camper%20Parking/

[Brian Kirby]

Grumpy Grandad - 2017-08-09 11:27 AM

 

Thanks Brian. This route looks good.

Any recommendations of sites near Venice would be appreciated. We will be using mainly aires and stellplatz on the way down but, as we have a dog we would prefer to be on electric when we are visiting Venice. We can then put a small 240v fan on when we go out.

 

Thanks. Stuart

Try Camping Serenissima at Oriago, on the Brenta canal (GPS N45.45160 E12.18318). Well run family owned run site that takes ACSI card if you're there at the right time. We were there spring 2016, and have visited quite a few times previously: always good.

 

Bus to/from Venice (Piazzale Roma) outside the site entrance, and tickets sold at reception.

 

Excellent Panorama super at Marghera, with easy parking for vans: here N45.46782 E12.21328. Alternate buses go via Malcontenta where, if you feel the urge, you will find Palladio's Villa Foscari (also known as la Malcontanta). :-) Take the bus in the opposite direction from the site, and you'll get to Padua.