malc d Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 Brian Kirby - 2019-07-19 3:18 PM It seems either the IoM exporter, or the editor of said "major national (presumably Brexit backing) newspaper" could have saved Boris his present embarrassment had either bothered to read the requirement fully, and check its origin. It could be of course that the editor was setting him up to make a fool of himself ( again ). ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Kirby Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 malc d - 2019-07-19 3:24 PM Brian Kirby - 2019-07-19 3:18 PM It seems either the IoM exporter, or the editor of said "major national (presumably Brexit backing) newspaper" could have saved Boris his present embarrassment had either bothered to read the requirement fully, and check its origin. It could be of course that the editor was setting him up to make a fool of himself ( again ). ;-) Gosh Malc, do you really think Boris consorts with remainer editors? :-D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malc d Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 Brian Kirby - 2019-07-19 4:26 PM malc d - 2019-07-19 3:24 PM Brian Kirby - 2019-07-19 3:18 PM It seems either the IoM exporter, or the editor of said "major national (presumably Brexit backing) newspaper" could have saved Boris his present embarrassment had either bothered to read the requirement fully, and check its origin. It could be of course that the editor was setting him up to make a fool of himself ( again ). ;-) Gosh Malc, do you really think Boris consorts with remainer editors? :-D He clearly consorts with people who give him unreliable information. Doesn't really matter too much when talking about kippers - but it does mean that Brits can end up in jail in Iran if he broadcasts unreliable info he has been given without checking it We just have to hope that he surrounds himself with wiser counsel from next week. :-( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Kirby Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 malc d - 2019-07-19 4:33 PM Brian Kirby - 2019-07-19 4:26 PM malc d - 2019-07-19 3:24 PM Brian Kirby - 2019-07-19 3:18 PM It seems either the IoM exporter, or the editor of said "major national (presumably Brexit backing) newspaper" could have saved Boris his present embarrassment had either bothered to read the requirement fully, and check its origin. It could be of course that the editor was setting him up to make a fool of himself ( again ). ;-) Gosh Malc, do you really think Boris consorts with remainer editors? :-D He clearly consorts with people who give him unreliable information. Doesn't really matter too much when talking about kippers - but it does mean that Brits can end up in jail in Iran if he broadcasts unreliable info he has been given without checking it We just have to hope that he surrounds himself with wiser counsel from next week. :-( Wot, you mean people who'll argue with him? Good luck with that!! :-D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birdbrain Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 Hate alarm ... Hate alarm ... Hate alarm ... Hate alarm ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John52 Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 malc d - 2019-07-19 3:24 PM Brian Kirby - 2019-07-19 3:18 PM It seems either the IoM exporter, or the editor of said "major national (presumably Brexit backing) newspaper" could have saved Boris his present embarrassment had either bothered to read the requirement fully, and check its origin. It could be of course that the editor was setting him up to make a fool of himself ( again ). ;-) ...and an even bigger fool of those who vote for him :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Kirby Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 Birdbrain - 2019-07-19 5:09 PM Hate alarm ... Hate alarm ... Hate alarm ... Hate alarm ... That's what I meant about language degradation Tweetie. It isn't hate, its just people airing their reservations about a character they distrust. There are many shades of grey between your unconditional love for Boris, and hating him. He has proved himself untruthful and unfaithful, he has proved himself careless with confidential information, and frequently shoots (inaccurately) from the hip. He seems impatient with detail, but easily has the mental capacity to absorb it. So, the prospect of that character mix in a Prime Minister is worrying, whatever his position on Brexit or his party allegiance. Your unconditional love for Boris seems founded only on his position on Brexit and his party allegiance. When the Brexit chips go down, I wonder how enduring that unconditional love will prove? :-D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teflon2 Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 Brian Kirby - 2019-07-19 3:18 PM pelmetman - 2019-07-18 11:44 PM........................…. We've had 40 years of "Their Laws" so majority of our fishing laws are the EU's fecking laws >:-) ....... Maybe, maybe not. But, there is no requirement for the kippers to be shipped with an ice pillow. As the EU has no such standard, the FSA requirement can not have come from the EU, can it? Further clarification here: http://tinyurl.com/yxuyxq7p It seems either the IoM exporter, or the editor of said "major national (presumably Brexit backing) newspaper" could have saved Boris his present embarrassment had either bothered to read the requirement fully, and check its origin. Smoked is a way of preserving, so falls outside the scope of the EU's regs, and as the item is preserved, also falls outside FSA requirements - other than for it be packed so as to arrive in good condition. Fake news whips up teacup storm! :-D Sorry to rain on your parade Brian but there are two ways of smoking kippers one is hot smoking which cooks the product the other is cold smoking which does not cook the fish thus the product is fresh fish and regulations require that the product is kept refrigerated until consumption.On a direct to customer system this would need being kept on ice as any other type of delivery would be difficult. As to the certification the delivery at the point of entry to the EU must satisfy the conditions laid down by the fisheries dept. of the commission. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birdbrain Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 Brian Kirby - 2019-07-19 5:56 PM Birdbrain - 2019-07-19 5:09 PM Hate alarm ... Hate alarm ... Hate alarm ... Hate alarm ... That's what I meant about language degradation Tweetie. It isn't hate, its just people airing their reservations about a character they distrust. There are many shades of grey between your unconditional love for Boris, and hating him. He has proved himself untruthful and unfaithful, he has proved himself careless with confidential information, and frequently shoots (inaccurately) from the hip. He seems impatient with detail, but easily has the mental capacity to absorb it. So, the prospect of that character mix in a Prime Minister is worrying, whatever his position on Brexit or his party allegiance. Your unconditional love for Boris seems founded only on his position on Brexit and his party allegiance. When the Brexit chips go down, I wonder how enduring that unconditional love will prove? :-D Youve obviously not noticed Brian but all politicians are untruthful and unfaithful yet you and the haters who with real hate at times seem to just pick on poor old Boris ... I dont love Boris either so wrong again princess , given the choice of others in The Tory Party I would much rather have had Priti Patel actually ... Then again I am just an old racist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John52 Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 Birdbrain - 2019-07-19 6:52 PM all politicians are untruthful and unfaithful When has Dennis Skinner been untruthful and unfaithful? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John52 Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 Birdbrain - 2019-07-19 6:52 PM poor old Boris . You must be doing well if you think someone owning a £4m house and calling his £250,000 a year second job 'chickenfeed' is poor *-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John52 Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 Birdbrain - 2019-07-19 6:52 PM pick on poor old Boris . How would you feel about Boris if you or your loved one were in an Iranian jail because of his careless words, or learned that he had promised to help his crooked Eton chum get you or your loved one beaten up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birdbrain Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 John52 - 2019-07-19 8:44 PM Birdbrain - 2019-07-19 6:52 PM all politicians are untruthful and unfaithful When has Dennis Skinner been untruthful and unfaithful? Well calling a fellow MP a "piece of s**t" in the House of Commons is clearly untruthful princess , unless of course you agree with him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birdbrain Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 John52 - 2019-07-19 8:50 PM Birdbrain - 2019-07-19 6:52 PM poor old Boris . You must be doing well if you think someone owning a £4m house and calling his £250,000 a year second job 'chickenfeed' is poor *-) Where did "chickenfeed" come from sweet heart ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birdbrain Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 John52 - 2019-07-19 8:53 PM Birdbrain - 2019-07-19 6:52 PM pick on poor old Boris . How would you feel about Boris if you or your loved one were in an Iranian jail because of his careless words, or learned that he had promised to help his crooked Eton chum get you or your loved one beaten up? She wasn't in an Iranian jail before he spoke any words then and how exactly do you know she's now still there because of anything hes said ??? You got friends in the Iranian Government or The Iranian Security Police or sumat ... Aint got a clue what the fig your on about with that last guff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 Brian Kirby - 2019-07-19 3:18 PM pelmetman - 2019-07-18 11:44 PM........................…. We've had 40 years of "Their Laws" so majority of our fishing laws are the EU's fecking laws >:-) ....... Maybe, maybe not. But, there is no requirement for the kippers to be shipped with an ice pillow. As the EU has no such standard, the FSA requirement can not have come from the EU, can it? Further clarification here: http://tinyurl.com/yxuyxq7p It seems either the IoM exporter, or the editor of said "major national (presumably Brexit backing) newspaper" could have saved Boris his present embarrassment had either bothered to read the requirement fully, and check its origin. Smoked is a way of preserving, so falls outside the scope of the EU's regs, and as the item is preserved, also falls outside FSA requirements - other than for it be packed so as to arrive in good condition. Fake news whips up teacup storm! :-D There is no maybe about it............So I'll ignore the Brussels lies peddled by a Remoaner Rag *-) ........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2019/07/19/david-davis-tipped-shock-cabinet-comeback-boris-johnson/ Boris, IDS, Moggy, Javid, Raab and now Davis......The Brexiteers dream team are assembling B-) ......... 3 years of Remaoner bitching has created their worst nightmare >:-) ........... Well done (lol) (lol) (lol) .......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 John52 - 2019-07-19 5:17 PM malc d - 2019-07-19 3:24 PM Brian Kirby - 2019-07-19 3:18 PM It seems either the IoM exporter, or the editor of said "major national (presumably Brexit backing) newspaper" could have saved Boris his present embarrassment had either bothered to read the requirement fully, and check its origin. It could be of course that the editor was setting him up to make a fool of himself ( again ). ;-) ...and an even bigger fool of those who vote for him :D I doubt a Corbyn supporter is in any position to call anyone a fool >:-) .......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John52 Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 Birdbrain - 2019-07-19 8:57 PM John52 - 2019-07-19 8:50 PM Birdbrain - 2019-07-19 6:52 PM poor old Boris . You must be doing well if you think someone owning a £4m house and calling his £250,000 a year second job 'chickenfeed' is poor *-) Where did "chickenfeed" come from sweet heart ??? Boris: https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2009/jul/13/boris-johnson-second-salary-chickenfeed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John52 Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 Birdbrain - 2019-07-19 9:02 PM how exactly do you know she's now still there because of anything hes said ??? https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/boris-johnsons-comments-about-british-mother-jailed-in-iran-still-used-against-her-husband-says_uk_5d03c606e4b0985c419cfa46?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAAuH2qcEwvRTixfv9bkzHmhbmP5j6ZcAVTZB7yHUmnlQwSxcmUgauiw2_P5tO9j2dxf6j8SMPZdXlRISIOb9Lh2kEnxiTK9ax06RVpcl-Nb9jRYzj3sebpRFRro-6Bk_gFvw9MHdovqNGp9cKu84R3gFSNuaF0Gc14Nfkjxvt-hD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John52 Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 Birdbrain - 2019-07-19 9:02 PM Aint got a clue what the fig your on about with that last guff Yet again - easily googled to find the answer: https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jul/14/journalist-stuart-collier-boris-johnson-phone-call-darius-guppy-demands-apology Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Kirby Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 teflon2 - 2019-07-19 6:41 PM Brian Kirby - 2019-07-19 3:18 PM pelmetman - 2019-07-18 11:44 PM........................…. We've had 40 years of "Their Laws" so majority of our fishing laws are the EU's fecking laws >:-) ....... Maybe, maybe not. But, there is no requirement for the kippers to be shipped with an ice pillow. As the EU has no such standard, the FSA requirement can not have come from the EU, can it? Further clarification here: http://tinyurl.com/yxuyxq7p It seems either the IoM exporter, or the editor of said "major national (presumably Brexit backing) newspaper" could have saved Boris his present embarrassment had either bothered to read the requirement fully, and check its origin. Smoked is a way of preserving, so falls outside the scope of the EU's regs, and as the item is preserved, also falls outside FSA requirements - other than for it be packed so as to arrive in good condition. Fake news whips up teacup storm! :-D Sorry to rain on your parade Brian but there are two ways of smoking kippers one is hot smoking which cooks the product the other is cold smoking which does not cook the fish thus the product is fresh fish and regulations require that the product is kept refrigerated until consumption.On a direct to customer system this would need being kept on ice as any other type of delivery would be difficult. As to the certification the delivery at the point of entry to the EU must satisfy the conditions laid down by the fisheries dept. of the commission. Not at all John, and thanks for the kipper info. I bow to your superior knowledge of kippers - which I don't eat. :-) However, looking at Manx kippers, it seems they are traditionally salted before being cold smoked. It seems thousands are exported around the world, and only one producer seemed to be having trouble. My understanding (prompted by your post), is that because they are salted they are classed as preserved, and not fresh, and that the smoking process only serves to dry, and flavour, them. If this is correct, as the other producers seem to think, it was all a complete storm in a teacup of misinformation. However, the point was not really kippers (about which I now know far more than I ever wanted :-D) but Boris and his tendency to grab on any passing argument, however inappropriate or inaccurate, and use it unchecked to back a point he wants to make. He may not be the worst offender, but he's well up the chart! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Kirby Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 Birdbrain - 2019-07-19 6:52 PM.................Youve obviously not noticed Brian but all politicians are untruthful and unfaithful ………………... Some, Tweetie, but not all, and not on the same scale. He's in a league of his own on those measures. Just ask yourself whether you would buy a used car from him. You'd enjoy the experience no end, and you'd come away laughing. But would you actually buy? :-D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 Only 3 more sleeps till a Brexiteer PM takes over at No 10......... and a Brexiteer Chancellor takes over at No 11........and a Brexiteer takes over the Foreign Office...............and a Brexiteer takes over the Brexit negotiations etc etc etc B-) ........... The 23rd of July will be forever known as Brexitmas to me :D ........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birdbrain Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 Brian Kirby - 2019-07-20 3:58 PM Birdbrain - 2019-07-19 6:52 PM.................Youve obviously not noticed Brian but all politicians are untruthful and unfaithful ………………... Some, Tweetie, but not all, and not on the same scale. He's in a league of his own on those measures. Just ask yourself whether you would buy a used car from him. You'd enjoy the experience no end, and you'd come away laughing. But would you actually buy? :-D Princess seriously I cant think of any current MP I would buy a motor from , maybe a Tony Benn from back in the day but defo not a Chucky Ammonia who if a car dealer would have worked for 3 different car dealers so far this year ... Talking of untruthful and unfaithful politicians ask yourself this sweet cheeks would you buy a car from any of those current MPs who fought elections only two years ago promising to deliver Brexit blah blah blah to save their own jobs then only months after plot to change the rules or stop Brexit altogether ??? ... You'd buy a nice European made car from them I suspect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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