Guest rael Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Just been looking at some PVCs (same as mine, Challenger Vany) on www.mobile.de. I'm a bit bewildered by the whole issue of van weights, but what seemed strange to me was that identical vans (same model/year etc) had different maximum weights allowed these being 3500 kg and 3300kg. As I said I don't know much about weight plates etc. Can anyone enlighten me? Seems strange that identical conversions from the same year would be different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witzend Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Most of these vans design weight is 3500 but for some reason they end up registered at 3300 but can be re-registered to the design weight to gain the extra 200kg many people do this thru firms like SVtec which incurs a cost Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikefitz Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 For tax reasions, some markets within Europe require a 3300 kg van. My understanding is that the suspension and braking system together with all mechanicals and trim are the same with the 3300 and 3500 variants. Once imported it may be a easy upgrade from 3300 to 3500, perhaps even higher using specialists like SVTech. Perhaps ring the company for exact advice. Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hans Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 And that some reason is a key word. Why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rael Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Thanks for replies. Its not a problem for me as my Challenger Vany is rated 3500. I was just curious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve928 Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 mikefitz - 2020-01-05 4:40 PM For tax reasions, some markets within Europe require a 3300 kg van. My understanding is that the suspension and braking system together with all mechanicals and trim are the same with the 3300 and 3500 variants. Once imported it may be a easy upgrade from 3300 to 3500, perhaps even higher using specialists like SVTech. Perhaps ring the company for exact advice. Mike From experience a chassis ordered from Fiat or PSA at 3300 MAM will come with different specification front brakes to a 3500 MAM chassis; 24mm thick front discs (and calipers to match) on the 3300 chassis as opposed to 28mm on the 3500. The difference in heat dissipation is noticable on long descents. There is also a bewildering list of front strut and front and rear spring part nos. according to MAM so there may be differences here too but I've no first hand experience of this. Of course this doesn't apply if the 3300 chassis has been down-rated from 3500. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek Uzzell Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 It’s not that uncommon, and there is often a straightforward ‘technical’ explanation. For instance, I have a 2016 Rapido brochure for their PVC range that shows that the V55 and V56 models were built on either a 3300kg or 3500kg chassis. But the 3300kg versions had the then standard Fiat 2.0litre 115hp motor for those two Rapido models, whereas, if the optional 2.3litre or 3.0litre motors were specified, the V55 and V56 models came with a 3500kg chassis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 At one time the 3300 x250 had axle capacities 100kg lower than the 3500, not sure if this is still the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hans Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 Yes it is still a puzzle. The same happens on my VW- Kepler-One westfalia. On the T6. Extra price for 3500 kg. The 2020 model 6.1 which a facelift , having the same chassis is now standard 3500. The weight stand on the axles used. And suspension. Price i think. And the payload desired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldi Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 Good morning, Nine years ago I wanted to uprate my Adria twin 120 plated at 3300 to accomodate a scooter on the back. Sv tech did this for me with no alterations to the vehicle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1951Pete Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 Our Elddis was plated at 3300 but had axle weights which far exceeded that. I contacted SV Tech with my plate details and they confirmed that it could be upgraded to 3500 in accordance with later models with no modifications. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sapper520 Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 I take it there is a charge for this service? Any idea how much? ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek Uzzell Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 The following link is to the SVTech website http://www.svtech.co.uk/ and I’ve seen fairly recent comments that suggest that their current charge for middle-managing a straightforward ‘on paper only’ motorhome weight upgrade would be around £350. (That’s for carrying out the task - advice from SVTech would be free.) A alternative (and probably less expensive) would be to contact JR Consultancy (positive and negative opinions here) https://www.motorhomeowners.org/post/jr-consultancy-review-10072349 and further comments here https://forums.outandaboutlive.co.uk/forums/Motorhomes/Motorhome-Matters/Is-there-such-a-thing-as-a-simple-weight-upgrade-/53639/ Motorhome DIY weight-uprating (ie. not involving a ‘middle-man’) was discussed here https://forums.outandaboutlive.co.uk/forums/Motorhomes/Motorhome-Matters/Weight-upgrade/50266/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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