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Age 72 - motorhome over 3500kg - medical requirements?


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To legally drive a motorhome with a gross weight exceedin 3500kg a C1 driving licence entitlement is needed.

 

These links relate to the D4 medical examination report form and should give you a good idea of the eyesight requirements and medical conditions that might affect issuing a C1 licence.

 

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/873747/d4-medical-examiner-report-for-a-lorry-or-bus-driving-licence.pdf

 

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/870849/inf4d-d4-medical-examination-information-notes.pdf

 

This link offers guidance to medical professionals about assessing a person's fitness to drive

 

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/general-information-assessing-fitness-to-drive

 

 

 

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At age 72 it would be worth considering whether opting for an over-3500kg motorhome would be a wise thing to do even if there were currently no medical issues that might impact on obtaining a C1 driving licence entitlement.

 

The number of people in the UK with a 'grandfather rights' C1 licence is reducing year on year and training to obtain that entitlement is costly. Consequently, motorhomes with an overall weight not exceeding 3500kg are potentially easier to sell secondhand should the need arise.

 

Obviously there comes a point when a motorhome design cannot be realistically operated at a 3500kg overall weight maximum (I've seen it suggested that a 3500kg Swift Escape 674 with a full complement of 5 passengers is likely to fall into that category) but some converters are deliberately building 'light' models to address this.

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We up-plated our 3500 kg van to 4300 kg and we take the medical and eye test every 3 years. Note that it costs around £90 ( each ) from either your GP or a dedicated firm.

 

We up-plated the van with the understanding from the firm that did it that we could down-plate if we either failed the 3 yearly medical or wanted to sell the van to someone who had no C1 entitlement. Most of the time we are well within 3500 kg but, in winter when we migrate to Spain, we like to have the extra in hand. If push came to shove we would ditch the little extras to remain within the legal limit.

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david lloyd - 2020-09-14 11:59 AM

 

360david - 2020-09-13 11:23 PM

 

I’m 72 and considering a motorhome over 3500 kg

What are the medical requirements regarding my licence

 

Just to add to the information Derek has provided you will need to go through this process every 3 years to keep your C1 entitlement.

 

David

 

This is true but since the OP is already 72 his licence will have expired at age 70 and been replaced without the C1 category. I understand however that he retains the right to restore C1 on request by submitting a completed D4 medical report with his application.

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Derek Uzzell - 2020-09-15 9:42 AM

 

Fifo

 

It would be interesting to learn what make, model and age of motorhome you own, as a 800kg weight upgrade to 4300kg is an unusually large increase if the vehicle is normally marketed at 3500kg.

 

From an old post...

Fifo - 2019-12-21 8:42 AM

On our AS Broadway...

 

So an increase of 800 kg seems to be quite a jump!

 

Keith.

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Thanks everyone. youve been a great help. Due to the covid situation GPs are not doing medicals but there is a company called D4drivers.co.uk that will do the medical.

I have one more question. I have looked through all DVLA forms but cant find one to upgrade to a C1

Can anyone help me with this.

very frustarating because the Motorhome i am looking at comes in at 3650kg. Not as if its a big old beast.

thanks again

david

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Profuse apologies: we were upplated to 3800 kg. Temporary memory blank.

 

Our GP did the renewal medical last month and Specsavers the eye test. I made appointments beforehand with both but only a couple of days beforehand. The DVLA returned my licence within 10 days of sending the completed forms, which I got from our local post office.

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360david - 2020-09-15 10:56 AM

 

Thanks everyone. youve been a great help. Due to the covid situation GPs are not doing medicals but there is a company called D4drivers.co.uk that will do the medical.

I have one more question. I have looked through all DVLA forms but cant find one to upgrade to a C1

Can anyone help me with this.

very frustarating because the Motorhome i am looking at comes in at 3650kg. Not as if its a big old beast.

thanks again

david

 

Reinstating a ‘lost’ C1 driving licence entitlement was discussed in this 2016 Practical Caravan forum thread (the final two postings there apply)

 

https://forums.practicalcaravan.com/threads/lost-c1-when-over-70-can-it-be-reinstated.59494/

 

This 2014 O&ALive forum thread also refers

 

https://forums.outandaboutlive.co.uk/forums/Motorhomes/Motorhome-Matters/adding-C1-to-driving-licence-if-over-70/35708/

 

For what it’s worth, I notice that there are applications apparently allowing on-line completion of a .pdf file for DVLA Form D1 (example here)

 

https://www.signnow.com/fill-and-sign-pdf-form/15349-d1-dvla-form

 

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I’m 74 and new to Mts. I’ve faced this problem over the last few months and my views have swung this way and that based on similar inputs, to what we have here. In the end I consider my state of health, in 5 years time (and my wife’s too)! I wondered how we would feel operating a juggernaut, when we were struggling to get out of a chair or walk a mile! My wife and I recognised that with the nature of ageing you need to accepting declining strength, energy, observation and cognitive ability.

 

What we would NOT want is our travelling ability curtailed by failing the C1 renewal.To cut a long story short - we’ve bought a more luxurious small MH and are currently equipping it with with every efficiency and operability device to carry us through the end it able decline! Our car licenses will not be under threat for a long time beyond the C1 capability limit!. We therefore expect to operate our ‘compact MH’ longer and to travel farther for longer!

Let no one ever stop me/us enjoying the ‘open road’!

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OrrBrian - 2020-09-15 3:12 PM

 

I’m 74 and new to Mts. I’ve faced this problem over the last few months and my views have swung this way and that based on similar inputs, to what we have here. In the end I consider my state of health, in 5 years time (and my wife’s too)! I wondered how we would feel operating a juggernaut, when we were struggling to get out of a chair or walk a mile! My wife and I recognised that with the nature of ageing you need to accepting declining strength, energy, observation and cognitive ability.

 

What we would NOT want is our travelling ability curtailed by failing the C1 renewal.To cut a long story short - we’ve bought a more luxurious small MH and are currently equipping it with with every efficiency and operability device to carry us through the end it able decline! Our car licenses will not be under threat for a long time beyond the C1 capability limit!. We therefore expect to operate our ‘compact MH’ longer and to travel farther for longer!

Let no one ever stop me/us enjoying the ‘open road’!

 

The ageing process certainly gets us all eventually and downsizing might help some of us to delay the inevitable. Often some sudden Illness or life event will make it clear enough that the time has come to stop driving but some people are so possessive about their entitlement to continue driving that they just won’t listen and have be confronted about it.

 

I’m still completely comfortable driving our 3,900 MH but I gave up motorcycling about seven years ago (age 68) because I realised my speed of reaction was no longer up to my appetite for speed. Fortunately driving the MH doesn’t seem to tempt me to drive fast!

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Hi, I think there is a bit of a difference between driving a Fiat 500 and a 4000kg 7.4m motorhome, but not much of a difference between a 3500kg and a 4000kg motorhome (pvc excepted). The 4t will probably be longer but the same width and the width of a vehicle is the harder part to deal with. I had a c1 medical with D4Drivers a few months ago and it basically consisted of me telling the doctor that I was fit to drive plus an eye test. DVLA can check your medical records and the eye test is stricter than saying you can read a number plate at 25 yards. If you have a dodgy heart and it stops while you are driving wether you are in car or a 4t motorhome the chances are someone will get hurt. Saying you are fit enough to drive a small vehicle but not a large one does not really cut it with me

Regards David

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