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Quite, 1 million breast cancer scans have been cancelled so far so how many deaths will that lead to?

Flu jabs are now being cancelled because guess what ...that haven’t got enough ordered.

Starting today we are now full time in our m/h certainly till Christmas .....good job there are no lockdowns in the West Country.

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Violet1956 - 2020-10-08 1:05 PM

 

Covid-19 patients appear to be first on the list of people in the UK needing specialist treatment and follow-up. How many other people suffering from life-threatening illnesses have been sacrificed on the altar of political expediency?

 

 

The government made much of their plans to avoid the NHS being overwhelmed by Covid -19 - and simply shut a lot of it down for many other patients, to meet their target.

 

:-(

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I blame the Boris bashing Losers ;-) ..........

 

They gave him hell for not being ready for Chinky Flu *-) ........

 

Now they're moaning that he's getting ready for the 2nd wave 8-) .........

 

BTW are Wales or Scotland doing anything different? >:-) .........

 

 

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malc d - 2020-10-08 1:26 PM

 

Violet1956 - 2020-10-08 1:05 PM

 

Covid-19 patients appear to be first on the list of people in the UK needing specialist treatment and follow-up. How many other people suffering from life-threatening illnesses have been sacrificed on the altar of political expediency?

 

 

The government made much of their plans to avoid the NHS being overwhelmed by Covid -19 - and simply shut a lot of it down for many other patients, to meet their target.

 

:-(

I speak from personal experience.Family members and friends with life threatening illnesses have been let down. What I want to see in NHS responses is a balance. I accept that resources are limited but what galls me is the emphasis on Covid. If only the electorate were wised up enough to see that this government is about self-preservation rather than having any regard to the overall health of the nation.

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malc d - 2020-10-08 1:39 PM

 

pelmetman - 2020-10-08 1:28 PM

 

I blame the Boris bashing Losers ;-) ..........

 

 

 

No-ones mentioned Boris ( except you Dave )..

 

You shouldn't try to join in serious discussions.

 

:-|

 

Oh aren't you allowed to use the "B" word in serious discussions? ;-) ..........

 

So why aren't you asking why the NHS in Labour Wales or SNP Scotland haven't managed the Pandemic any better? :-| .........

 

 

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pelmetman - 2020-10-08 2:03 PM

 

malc d - 2020-10-08 1:39 PM

 

pelmetman - 2020-10-08 1:28 PM

 

I blame the Boris bashing Losers ;-) ..........

 

 

 

No-ones mentioned Boris ( except you Dave )..

 

You shouldn't try to join in serious discussions.

 

:-|

 

 

So why aren't you asking why the NHS in Labour Wales or SNP Scotland haven't managed the Pandemic any better? :-| .........

 

 

 

A) Because it's irrelevant to this thread.

 

and

 

B) Because I am only aware of what has happened in England and have no idea what decisions have been made in Wales or Scotland.

 

 

I won't be making any comments about the health services in any other countries either, for the same reason.

 

:-|

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malc d - 2020-10-08 2:45 PM

 

pelmetman - 2020-10-08 2:03 PM

 

malc d - 2020-10-08 1:39 PM

 

pelmetman - 2020-10-08 1:28 PM

 

I blame the Boris bashing Losers ;-) ..........

 

 

 

No-ones mentioned Boris ( except you Dave )..

 

You shouldn't try to join in serious discussions.

 

:-|

 

 

So why aren't you asking why the NHS in Labour Wales or SNP Scotland haven't managed the Pandemic any better? :-| .........

 

 

 

A) Because it's irrelevant to this thread.

 

and

 

B) Because I am only aware of what has happened in England and have no idea what decisions have been made in Wales or Scotland.

 

 

I won't be making any comments about the health services in any other countries either, for the same reason.

 

:-|

 

I wonder if Joke52 will keep schtum? (lol) .........

 

BTW how are you going to decide that Boris is doing a crap job without comparing it to the job other nations are doing? ;-) .........

 

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pelmetman - 2020-10-08 3:54 PM

 

 

BTW how are you going to decide that Boris is doing a crap job without comparing it to the job other nations are doing? ;-) .........

 

 

 

It's quite simple ( for grown-ups to work out ).

 

I do it by comparing what I've heard him say what he is going to do - and checking it with what he has done.

 

 

:-|

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Violet1956 - 2020-10-08 1:42 PM

 

malc d - 2020-10-08 1:26 PM

 

Violet1956 - 2020-10-08 1:05 PM

 

Covid-19 patients appear to be first on the list of people in the UK needing specialist treatment and follow-up. How many other people suffering from life-threatening illnesses have been sacrificed on the altar of political expediency?

 

 

The government made much of their plans to avoid the NHS being overwhelmed by Covid -19 - and simply shut a lot of it down for many other patients, to meet their target.

 

:-(

I speak from personal experience. Family members and friends with life threatening illnesses have been let down. What I want to see in NHS responses is a balance. I accept that resources are limited but what galls me is the emphasis on Covid. If only the electorate were wised up enough to see that this government is about self-preservation rather than having any regard to the overall health of the nation.

I agree Veronica and i've had the same experience with a now seven month delay. Waiting lists in England have tripled since last year for the number waiting 18 weeks and those who have been waiting longer than a year, at the highest ever level in ten years. It's utterly shameful and totally unacceptable how the NHS has been run down to such an appalling level. Everyone recognises Covid affected the service but we should all remember there was a Pandemic Preparedness Strategy in place drawn up by this government in 2011 who were advised to replenish outdated ppe stocks three years ago but ignored the advice due to cost. We are all aware of the outcome of that though some will attempt to excuse or deny it.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2020/sep/10/hospital-waiting-list-numbers-in-england-triple-since-last

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malc d - 2020-10-08 2:45 PM

 

pelmetman - 2020-10-08 2:03 PM

 

malc d - 2020-10-08 1:39 PM

 

pelmetman - 2020-10-08 1:28 PM

 

I blame the Boris bashing Losers ;-) ..........

 

 

 

No-ones mentioned Boris ( except you Dave )..

 

You shouldn't try to join in serious discussions.

 

:-|

 

 

So why aren't you asking why the NHS in Labour Wales or SNP Scotland haven't managed the Pandemic any better? :-| .........

 

 

 

A) Because it's irrelevant to this thread.

 

and

 

B) Because I am only aware of what has happened in England and have no idea what decisions have been made in Wales or Scotland.

 

 

I won't be making any comments about the health services in any other countries either, for the same reason.

 

:-|

Pelmet doesn't do relevance..........just constantly disrupts threads. :-|

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Violet1956 - 2020-10-08 1:42 PM

 

malc d - 2020-10-08 1:26 PM

 

Violet1956 - 2020-10-08 1:05 PM

 

Covid-19 patients appear to be first on the list of people in the UK needing specialist treatment and follow-up. How many other people suffering from life-threatening illnesses have been sacrificed on the altar of political expediency?

 

 

The government made much of their plans to avoid the NHS being overwhelmed by Covid -19 - and simply shut a lot of it down for many other patients, to meet their target.

 

:-(

I speak from personal experience.Family members and friends with life threatening illnesses have been let down. What I want to see in NHS responses is a balance. I accept that resources are limited but what galls me is the emphasis on Covid. If only the electorate were wised up enough to see that this government is about self-preservation rather than having any regard to the overall health of the nation.

 

I think this post illustrated the ignorance of the general population of just what CV-19 is about.

I've suffered a double whammy with CV-19, I've had an operation cancelled, this means I'm in pain 24/7 and struggle to walk more than a few yards even with crutches (I can cycle a couple of miles on altenate days!) Although I'm classified as an urgent case it's not deemed life threatening, so the hospital have no idea when I might have the operation, but I have to be very careful or it will be an ambulance job into hospital!

It's now known I caught cv-19 back in late march just before lockdown, whilst at the time it was a mild case, and my underlying health re cv-19 related risks was good, and aside from my hip I was in very good health, and a good job too as the after affects are possibly life threatening. I have damage to my pancreas and heart, I'm now borderline type 3c diabetic. I'm one of the 'lucky ones' *-) A woman nearby has had all ,or part, of all four limbs amputated due to complications from CV-19. If you think it's something which will be gone once a vaccine is developed you are very much mistaken, there are thousands of people of all ages who will suffer for decades to come, many of the younger ones will never know until they reach middle age just whats hit them.

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colin - 2020-10-09 2:31 PM

 

Violet1956 - 2020-10-08 1:42 PM

 

malc d - 2020-10-08 1:26 PM

 

Violet1956 - 2020-10-08 1:05 PM

 

Covid-19 patients appear to be first on the list of people in the UK needing specialist treatment and follow-up. How many other people suffering from life-threatening illnesses have been sacrificed on the altar of political expediency?

 

 

The government made much of their plans to avoid the NHS being overwhelmed by Covid -19 - and simply shut a lot of it down for many other patients, to meet their target.

 

:-(

I speak from personal experience.Family members and friends with life threatening illnesses have been let down. What I want to see in NHS responses is a balance. I accept that resources are limited but what galls me is the emphasis on Covid. If only the electorate were wised up enough to see that this government is about self-preservation rather than having any regard to the overall health of the nation.

 

I think this post illustrated the ignorance of the general population of just what CV-19 is about.

 

If you think it's something which will be gone once a vaccine is developed you are very much mistaken, there are thousands of people of all ages who will suffer for decades to come, many of the younger ones will never know until they reach middle age just whats hit them.

 

 

As I understand it this post is about priorities - and is nothing to do with the virus itself.

 

In the first wave of the virus the NHS agree that they stopped treatments for many other medical problems and gave priority to Covid-19 patients. It's believed that a lot of ' extra ' people died from other health problems as a result of that decision

 

With a concern that another wave is about to hit us the NHS has declared that they plan to avoid that happening again.

 

That would seem to be the best course for them to take - and I hope they are successful.

 

:-|

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malc d - 2020-10-09 3:21 PM

 

colin - 2020-10-09 2:31 PM

 

Violet1956 - 2020-10-08 1:42 PM

 

malc d - 2020-10-08 1:26 PM

 

Violet1956 - 2020-10-08 1:05 PM

 

Covid-19 patients appear to be first on the list of people in the UK needing specialist treatment and follow-up. How many other people suffering from life-threatening illnesses have been sacrificed on the altar of political expediency?

 

 

The government made much of their plans to avoid the NHS being overwhelmed by Covid -19 - and simply shut a lot of it down for many other patients, to meet their target.

 

:-(

I speak from personal experience.Family members and friends with life threatening illnesses have been let down. What I want to see in NHS responses is a balance. I accept that resources are limited but what galls me is the emphasis on Covid. If only the electorate were wised up enough to see that this government is about self-preservation rather than having any regard to the overall health of the nation.

 

I think this post illustrated the ignorance of the general population of just what CV-19 is about.

 

If you think it's something which will be gone once a vaccine is developed you are very much mistaken, there are thousands of people of all ages who will suffer for decades to come, many of the younger ones will never know until they reach middle age just whats hit them.

 

 

As I understand it this post is about priorities - and is nothing to do with the virus itself.

 

In the first wave of the virus the NHS agree that they stopped treatments for many other medical problems and gave priority to Covid-19 patients. It's believed that a lot of ' extra ' people died from other health problems as a result of that decision

 

With a concern that another wave is about to hit us the NHS has declared that they plan to avoid that happening again.

 

That would seem to be the best course for them to take - and I hope they are successful.

 

:-|

 

Our local hospitals never stopped urgently needed operations, they did (and still do) find it very challenging to keep cv-19 out of the other departments, this has lead to many operations being cancelled. Nobody with cancer will be wanting to get cv-19, many thousands who have had cv-19 now find they have complications which are life changing, if not life threatening.

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colin - 2020-10-09 2:31 PM

 

Violet1956 - 2020-10-08 1:42 PM

 

malc d - 2020-10-08 1:26 PM

 

Violet1956 - 2020-10-08 1:05 PM

 

Covid-19 patients appear to be first on the list of people in the UK needing specialist treatment and follow-up. How many other people suffering from life-threatening illnesses have been sacrificed on the altar of political expediency?

 

 

The government made much of their plans to avoid the NHS being overwhelmed by Covid -19 - and simply shut a lot of it down for many other patients, to meet their target.

 

:-(

I speak from personal experience.Family members and friends with life threatening illnesses have been let down. What I want to see in NHS responses is a balance. I accept that resources are limited but what galls me is the emphasis on Covid. If only the electorate were wised up enough to see that this government is about self-preservation rather than having any regard to the overall health of the nation.

 

I think this post illustrated the ignorance of the general population of just what CV-19 is about.

I've suffered a double whammy with CV-19, I've had an operation cancelled, this means I'm in pain 24/7 and struggle to walk more than a few yards even with crutches (I can cycle a couple of miles on altenate days!) Although I'm classified as an urgent case it's not deemed life threatening, so the hospital have no idea when I might have the operation, but I have to be very careful or it will be an ambulance job into hospital!

It's now known I caught cv-19 back in late march just before lockdown, whilst at the time it was a mild case, and my underlying health re cv-19 related risks was good, and aside from my hip I was in very good health, and a good job too as the after affects are possibly life threatening. I have damage to my pancreas and heart, I'm now borderline type 3c diabetic. I'm one of the 'lucky ones' *-) A woman nearby has had all ,or part, of all four limbs amputated due to complications from CV-19. If you think it's something which will be gone once a vaccine is developed you are very much mistaken, there are thousands of people of all ages who will suffer for decades to come, many of the younger ones will never know until they reach middle age just whats hit them.

 

In no way did I seek to minimise the effects of Covid-19 on sufferers, particularly those in a situation like yours Colin. I just question whether the government has chosen the priorities in health care to meet expectations regarding reducing the effects of Covid at the expense of effective treatment for other potentially deadly conditions. Veronica

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The health service is still spending vast sums of money treating other conditions, but they can't just ignore the looming health problems which are coming with cv-19. I've just been to see my NHS dentist as a filling had fallen out, they are taking 'emergency' only cases, no routine checks, that's not because money has been diverted, they just can't see as many people whilst keeping them as safe as possible. My appointment was originally t'other week, but the dentist showed signs of cv-19 and all appointments where stopped whilst waiting the results, in the meantime more people with actual toothache had joined the wait, so I was put back, no problem for me.

My surgeon tasked with doing my hip (only one in area due to nature of the joint) is full time doing emergency only operations, that's not because funds have been diverted,

Meanwhile a friends mother has been taken into hospital this week, no visitors allowed, that not nice, He rings every day to find out how she is, rang this morning and they couldn't find her, he had to ring back an hour later hoping they found where she was, which they did. Knowing what happens to older people with no relatives to keep check, I dread to think what's going on in hospitals.

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colin - 2020-10-09 2:31 PM

 

Violet1956 - 2020-10-08 1:42 PM

 

malc d - 2020-10-08 1:26 PM

 

Violet1956 - 2020-10-08 1:05 PM

 

Covid-19 patients appear to be first on the list of people in the UK needing specialist treatment and follow-up. How many other people suffering from life-threatening illnesses have been sacrificed on the altar of political expediency?

 

 

The government made much of their plans to avoid the NHS being overwhelmed by Covid -19 - and simply shut a lot of it down for many other patients, to meet their target.

 

:-(

I speak from personal experience.Family members and friends with life threatening illnesses have been let down. What I want to see in NHS responses is a balance. I accept that resources are limited but what galls me is the emphasis on Covid. If only the electorate were wised up enough to see that this government is about self-preservation rather than having any regard to the overall health of the nation.

 

I think this post illustrated the ignorance of the general population of just what CV-19 is about.

I've suffered a double whammy with CV-19, I've had an operation cancelled, this means I'm in pain 24/7 and struggle to walk more than a few yards even with crutches (I can cycle a couple of miles on altenate days!) Although I'm classified as an urgent case it's not deemed life threatening, so the hospital have no idea when I might have the operation, but I have to be very careful or it will be an ambulance job into hospital!

It's now known I caught cv-19 back in late march just before lockdown, whilst at the time it was a mild case, and my underlying health re cv-19 related risks was good, and aside from my hip I was in very good health, and a good job too as the after affects are possibly life threatening. I have damage to my pancreas and heart, I'm now borderline type 3c diabetic. I'm one of the 'lucky ones' *-) A woman nearby has had all ,or part, of all four limbs amputated due to complications from CV-19. If you think it's something which will be gone once a vaccine is developed you are very much mistaken, there are thousands of people of all ages who will suffer for decades to come, many of the younger ones will never know until they reach middle age just whats hit them.

 

 

 

Colin may I offer you my sincere sympathy and best wishes I hope that you will get your much needed attention in the near future. John

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colin - 2020-10-09 6:00 PM

 

Meanwhile a friends mother has been taken into hospital this week, no visitors allowed, that not nice, He rings every day to find out how she is, rang this morning and they couldn't find her, he had to ring back an hour later hoping they found where she was, which they did. Knowing what happens to older people with no relatives to keep check, I dread to think what's going on in hospitals.

The same.....no visitors allowed at all. One of my cousins recently spent a week in hospital and nobody was allowed to visit, not even family. He's 87, not in the best of health and been unable to visit his youngest daughter (50) since March who is now under palliative care. She's told her brothers and sisters she doesn't want to die without saying goodbye but knows she likely will. The only people allowed to be physically with her are the nursing staff. How horrible and cruel is that?

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Its all about avoiding the political embarrassment of the NHS being overwhelmed, and corpses piling up.

People being turfed out of hospital into unprepared care homes where their deaths weren't counted.

People on waiting lists not visible like Covid patients would be

I was castigated all over this forum for being in Cornwall during the lockdown.

Even though I was effectively self isolating and the main hospital was quiet all the time.

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teflon2 - 2020-10-09 6:17 PM

Colin may I offer you my sincere sympathy and best wishes I hope that you will get your much needed attention in the near future. John

 

Thanks John, up till recently it's been more of a irritant, but of late it's been a real PITA.

Just got to stick it out until they can get me in for op. As for the pancreas and heart damage, thankfully it not as bad as some are suffering, but it does mean I'll need to take more care of my health, which is probably a good think anyway.

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further privatisation of the health service - with people forced to pay rip off private fees in England.

LaingBuisson found huge regional variations within the same hospital groups. For example, a hip replacement cost £8,110 at the Spire Murrayfield in Edinburgh but £15,050 at the Spire Harpenden in Hertfordshire

https://www.theguardian.com/money/2020/oct/10/covid-uk-fund-own-operations-private-for-knee-hip-cataract-operations-pay

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Violet1956 - 2020-10-09 5:16 PM

 

In no way did I seek to minimise the effects of Covid-19 on sufferers, particularly those in a situation like yours Colin. I just question whether the government has chosen the priorities in health care to meet expectations regarding reducing the effects of Covid at the expense of effective treatment for other potentially deadly conditions. Veronica

 

Your thread title would suggest different :-| ..........

 

It's high time folk stopped trying to weaponise the Pandemic and accept that there are no "better/easy" choices for ours or other countries governments 8-) .........

 

 

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pelmetman - 2020-10-10 10:06 AM

 

It's high time folk stopped trying to weaponise the Pandemic and accept that there are no "better/easy" choices for ours or other countries governments 8-) .........

 

 

 

If Boris Johnson and his boss would stop making such patronising speeches, and stop using words like - incredible - amazing - fantastic - or world beating, about all their plans ( especially when so much has gone wrong ) then maybe he wouldn't get so much flak.

He is not even impressing half the Tory MP's in Parliament any more.

 

:-|

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