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Nothing to see here

As we knew all along

Its either a deal worse than we had as a member (no good to BoJo because he will own it)

Or No Deal (worse for us, but better for BoJo because his £billionaire 'newspaper' owners (who want us out of the EU before an EU wide tax treaty can get into Her Majesty's Tax Havens) will blame it on someone else)

Sorry I can't fit it into a 3 word slogan for Pelmet

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Brian Kirby - 2020-12-04 5:20 PM

 

There. Fixed that for you! (lol) (lol) (lol)

 

Nope.........If the French veto any deal.......then it's the Frogs fault we have NO DEAL (lol) (lol) (lol) .......

 

 

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pelmetman - 2020-12-04 6:06 PM

 

Brian Kirby - 2020-12-04 5:20 PM

 

There. Fixed that for you! (lol) (lol) (lol)

 

Nope.........If the French veto any deal.......then it's the Frogs fault we have NO DEAL (lol) (lol) (lol) .......

 

 

LOL! And the small problem about Johnson pushing through his international law breaking bill on Monday? Johnson said there were no plans for no deal as he was going to get a great deal. Oh dear. Remind me, wasn't there a bit about "Them needing us more than we need them"? Hows that worked out?

 

Those Frenchies should be backing down should they not? Dont they know who we are? (lol)

 

No Dave. Without Brexit we would not be in this mess. We tried to tell you this would happen nearly five years ago now. The buck stops with you and the Brexiteers.

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Barryd999 - 2020-12-04 9:33 PM

Johnson said there were no plans for no deal as he was going to get a great deal. Oh dear. Remind me, wasn't there a bit about "Them needing us more than we need them"? Hows that worked out?

 

About as well as his "world beating test & trace" :-(

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John52 - 2020-12-05 9:43 AM

 

Barryd999 - 2020-12-04 9:33 PM

Johnson said there were no plans for no deal as he was going to get a great deal. Oh dear. Remind me, wasn't there a bit about "Them needing us more than we need them"? Hows that worked out?

 

About as well as his "world beating test & trace" :-(

 

Another example of those that refused to cooperate who are to blame >:-) ..........

 

 

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pelmetman - 2020-12-05 9:41 AM

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9019979/Boris-Johnson-stand-Macron-Brexit-talks-teeter-brink.html

 

:D ..........

 

I'm starting to like the French President ;-) ...........

 

Through our stubborn intransigence we get No Deal and save 40 billion toward the £200 billion we've spaffed on unicorns and us well 'ard Brexiteers get to trash the economy (yippeeee), throw thousands more people out of work (yippeee), and wreck the country for good (yippeee). (lol) (lol) (lol) ...........

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pelmetman - 2020-12-04 6:06 PM

Brian Kirby - 2020-12-04 5:20 PM

There. Fixed that for you! (lol) (lol) (lol)

Nope.........If the French veto any deal.......then it's the Frogs fault we have NO DEAL (lol) (lol) (lol) .......

So remind me, who placed the UK in a position where it needs a deal?

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pelmetman - 2020-12-05 9:41 AM

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9019979/Boris-Johnson-stand-Macron-Brexit-talks-teeter-brink.html

:D ..........

I'm starting to like the French President ;-) ...........

We get No Deal and save 40 billion and Macron gets the blame (lol) (lol) (lol) ...........

Wrong! If we get no deal it will cost us way, way, more than £ 40 billion, year after year - and the Brexiters will get all the blame. I'd leave the country now, if I were you, while you still can! :-D

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Brian Kirby - 2020-12-05 4:14 PM

 

pelmetman - 2020-12-05 9:41 AM

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9019979/Boris-Johnson-stand-Macron-Brexit-talks-teeter-brink.html

:D ..........

I'm starting to like the French President ;-) ...........

We get No Deal and save 40 billion and Macron gets the blame (lol) (lol) (lol) ...........

Wrong! If we get no deal it will cost us way, way, more than £ 40 billion, year after year - and the Brexiters will get all the blame. I'd leave the country now, if I were you, while you still can! :-D

He can't.....not until he's put up his landlady's £30k greenhouse. (lol)

 

Mind you he did post this last month but coming from Planet Pinocchio it's guaranteed not to be honoured!

 

pelmetman - 2020-11-23 8:29 AM

 

I'm only hanging around on here for another 38 days......just purely to rub their noses in it >:-) ........

 

Then I'll be off B-) ........

 

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pelmetman - 2020-12-05 9:41 AM

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9019979/Boris-Johnson-stand-Macron-Brexit-talks-teeter-brink.html

:D ..........

I'm starting to like the French President ;-) ...........

We get No Deal and save 40 billion and Macron gets the blame (lol) (lol) (lol) ...........

Wrong! If we get no deal it will cost us way, way, more than £ 40 billion, year after year - and the Brexiters will get all the blame. I'd leave the country now, if I were you, while you still can! :-D

 

Dave is like that bloke down the Boozer thats always playing the bandit. He will put in a hundred quid and then eventually win a tenner and be pleased with himself.

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Brian Kirby - 2020-12-05 4:14 PM

 

pelmetman - 2020-12-05 9:41 AM

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9019979/Boris-Johnson-stand-Macron-Brexit-talks-teeter-brink.html

:D ..........

I'm starting to like the French President ;-) ...........

We get No Deal and save 40 billion and Macron gets the blame (lol) (lol) (lol) ...........

Wrong! If we get no deal it will cost us way, way, more than £ 40 billion, year after year - and the Brexiters will get all the blame. I'd leave the country now, if I were you, while you still can! :-D

 

Dont worry Brian we'll earn way more than that from tariffs ;-) .......

 

From you suckers who cant resist Kraut Krap (lol) (lol) (lol) ........

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Barryd999 - 2020-12-05 4:36 PM

 

Brian Kirby - 2020-12-05 4:14 PM

 

pelmetman - 2020-12-05 9:41 AM

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9019979/Boris-Johnson-stand-Macron-Brexit-talks-teeter-brink.html

:D ..........

I'm starting to like the French President ;-) ...........

We get No Deal and save 40 billion and Macron gets the blame (lol) (lol) (lol) ...........

Wrong! If we get no deal it will cost us way, way, more than £ 40 billion, year after year - and the Brexiters will get all the blame. I'd leave the country now, if I were you, while you still can! :-D

 

Dave is like that bloke down the Boozer thats always playing the bandit. He will put in a hundred quid and then eventually win a tenner and be pleased with himself.

 

Being a natural winner...... my money's in Ernie B-) ........

 

Did I tell you I won again this month? :D ..........

 

 

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pelmetman - 2020-12-05 8:36 PM

Brian Kirby - 2020-12-05 4:14 PM

pelmetman - 2020-12-05 9:41 AM

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9019979/Boris-Johnson-stand-Macron-Brexit-talks-teeter-brink.html

:D ..........

I'm starting to like the French President ;-) ...........

We get No Deal and save 40 billion and Macron gets the blame (lol) (lol) (lol) ...........

Wrong! If we get no deal it will cost us way, way, more than £ 40 billion, year after year - and the Brexiters will get all the blame. I'd leave the country now, if I were you, while you still can! :-D

1 Dont worry Brian we'll earn way more than that from tariffs ;-) .......

2 From you suckers who cant resist Kraut Krap (lol) (lol) (lol) ........

1 That is taken into account in the calculations, so no, we wont! If you are looking at alternative figures that say otherwise give us a link to them, as it would be interesting to see.

2 The only bits of my van that were installed in Germany are the interior fittings, the van itself is French/Italian plus other bits from who knows where.

 

I doubt everything in your van, despite its age, was made in the "Land of Hope and Glory"? Ever thought of checking? Toilet? Fridge? Cooker? Gearbox? But any more recent vans will be full of foreign stuff, won't they? Post Brexit, that will get even worse, as no-one makes any motorhome base vehicles in UK, and any small UK made components will take too long to deliver because of customs clearances, so will be sourced elsewhere, mostly within the EU.

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Brian Kirby - 2020-12-06 10:33 AM

 

pelmetman - 2020-12-05 8:36 PM

Brian Kirby - 2020-12-05 4:14 PM

pelmetman - 2020-12-05 9:41 AM

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9019979/Boris-Johnson-stand-Macron-Brexit-talks-teeter-brink.html

:D ..........

I'm starting to like the French President ;-) ...........

We get No Deal and save 40 billion and Macron gets the blame (lol) (lol) (lol) ...........

Wrong! If we get no deal it will cost us way, way, more than £ 40 billion, year after year - and the Brexiters will get all the blame. I'd leave the country now, if I were you, while you still can! :-D

1 Dont worry Brian we'll earn way more than that from tariffs ;-) .......

2 From you suckers who cant resist Kraut Krap (lol) (lol) (lol) ........

1 That is taken into account in the calculations, so no, we wont! If you are looking at alternative figures that say otherwise give us a link to them, as it would be interesting to see.

2 The only bits of my van that were installed in Germany are the interior fittings, the van itself is French/Italian plus other bits from who knows where.

 

I doubt everything in your van, despite its age, was made in the "Land of Hope and Glory"? Ever thought of checking? Toilet? Fridge? Cooker? Gearbox? But any more recent vans will be full of foreign stuff, won't they? Post Brexit, that will get even worse, as no-one makes any motorhome base vehicles in UK, and any small UK made components will take too long to deliver because of customs clearances, so will be sourced elsewhere, mostly within the EU.

 

1.......Calculations?...........were those guesses done before or after Chinky Flu arrived? ;-) ........

 

2.......Well if you wanna be picky......EU Krap >:-) ........

 

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Unlike the Daily Mail, the Guardian quotes people at the sharp end;

 

'But Lowe stresses that with or without a Brexit deal, the end of the UK’s transition out of the EU on 31 December will create significant additional disruption at ports and on the roads in the new year with inevitable effects on supply chains.

 

“A deal does not remove the need for customs declarations, import and exports procedures or regulatory barriers to trade,” he says. “Those controls will be ones that will be new. They have not had to take place during our membership of the single market or customs union or during the transition. They are additional controls.”

 

Lorry drivers and British port officials say they have been left frustrated by the government’s last-minute approach to Brexit, after the logistics industry has spent years asking for clarity on post-Brexit arrangements.

 

The main plank of the new arrangements for Brexit, they say, is an IT system known as the Goods Vehicle Movement Service which will allow drivers to present a reference at Dover. The French equivalent has been in place for 18 months, but the British version is still under wraps and a beta version will launch later this month, giving businesses a few days to find out if it works.

 

Duncan Buchanan, policy director of the Road Haulage Association, is blunt about his fears for what will unfold in January. “It’s going to be a disaster for supply chains, somewhere between a shambles and a catastrophe. No one can be sure what goods are not going to cross the border. You do not know what is not going to be on your shelves because something is stuck on a truck somewhere.”

 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/dec/06/fears-that-uk-will-not-cope-with-brexit-and-covid-vaccine-rollout

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John52 - 2020-12-06 11:03 AM

 

Unlike the Daily Mail, the Guardian quotes people at the sharp end;

 

'But Lowe stresses that with or without a Brexit deal, the end of the UK’s transition out of the EU on 31 December will create significant additional disruption at ports and on the roads in the new year with inevitable effects on supply chains.

 

“A deal does not remove the need for customs declarations, import and exports procedures or regulatory barriers to trade,” he says. “Those controls will be ones that will be new. They have not had to take place during our membership of the single market or customs union or during the transition. They are additional controls.”

 

Lorry drivers and British port officials say they have been left frustrated by the government’s last-minute approach to Brexit, after the logistics industry has spent years asking for clarity on post-Brexit arrangements.

 

The main plank of the new arrangements for Brexit, they say, is an IT system known as the Goods Vehicle Movement Service which will allow drivers to present a reference at Dover. The French equivalent has been in place for 18 months, but the British version is still under wraps and a beta version will launch later this month, giving businesses a few days to find out if it works.

 

Duncan Buchanan, policy director of the Road Haulage Association, is blunt about his fears for what will unfold in January. “It’s going to be a disaster for supply chains, somewhere between a shambles and a catastrophe. No one can be sure what goods are not going to cross the border. You do not know what is not going to be on your shelves because something is stuck on a truck somewhere.”

 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/dec/06/fears-that-uk-will-not-cope-with-brexit-and-covid-vaccine-rollout

 

Wow! If that isnt the recipe for a perfect storm I dont know what is. The logistics of delivering the vaccine due to a lack of staff thanks to the Tories running down the NHS, Customs software not even in Beta yet and the breakdown of frictionless trade leading to miles and miles of chaos, deal or no deal most likely.

 

I honestly cannot see how the Tories are going to fudge this one. Most of the public are sleepwalking into this nightmare, blissfully unaware of what is about to be bestowed upon the UK thanks to some bonkers ideology about a sunny 50s whites only England.

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pelmetman - 2020-12-06 10:43 AM.............................

1.......Calculations?...........were those guesses done before or after Chinky Flu arrived? ;-) ........

2.......Well if you wanna be picky......EU Krap >:-) ........

1 Brexit and the Coronavirus are two different things, no? There are no cross border tariffs on the one, and there are on the other. So which one is likely to be relevant to tariffs? Tricky, isn't it?

2 So name me a motorhome made over the past 20 or so years that is devoid of EU Krap. Tricky, isn't it?

Point? Brain, typing finger, and engage first? You're getting worse and worse. Have a little rest! :-D

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Well at least the queue of lorries at Felixstowe may not be so long

Shipping companies are very busy, and when container ships have multiple drops they can't afford to wait at a British port.

So are discussing dumping our deliveries at Rotterdam instead :-S

Perhaps BoJo can send RAF planes to pick them up as well *-)

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2020/dec/07/builders-run-short-of-supplies-as-uk-port-holdups-raise-brexit-concerns

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Barryd999 - 2020-12-06 11:25 AM

I honestly cannot see how the Tories are going to fudge this one.

 

By convincing their voters like Pelmet that its the fault of France :-S

 

Same old story on the markets this morning. UK shares and currency down, rest of developed world up. So it seems you sold your UK shares at the right time

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Brian Kirby - 2020-12-06 12:32 PM

 

pelmetman - 2020-12-06 10:43 AM.............................

1.......Calculations?...........were those guesses done before or after Chinky Flu arrived? ;-) ........

2.......Well if you wanna be picky......EU Krap >:-) ........

1 Brexit and the Coronavirus are two different things, no? There are no cross border tariffs on the one, and there are on the other. So which one is likely to be relevant to tariffs? Tricky, isn't it?

2 So name me a motorhome made over the past 20 or so years that is devoid of EU Krap. Tricky, isn't it?

Point? Brain, typing finger, and engage first? You're getting worse and worse. Have a little rest! :-D

 

1........Indeed all those tariffs will do wonders for UK PLC's bottom line B-) ..........As for the stuff we export I cant for the life of me see why we export Welsh Lamb yet import NZ Lamb? *-) .........

 

2........Those motorhome parts are available from Non EU countries ;-) ..........As is the vast majority of the stuff we import >:-) ..........

 

 

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