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jumpstart - 2021-02-12 6:59 PM

 

BBC News - Covid-19: Has the UK economy been hardest hit?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/56042270

 

So in other words Sunak is lying? Again.

 

"The UK economy fared badly last year. Adjusting for differences in methodology improves that performance, but it still leaves the UK towards the bottom of the league for economic performance."

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Has the UK had a double dip recession like the EU? >:-) ...........

 

Nope B-) ..........

 

That'll annoy the LOSERS (lol) (lol) (lol) ...........

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CurtainRaiser - 2021-02-12 7:25 PM

 

pelmetman - 2021-02-12 7:08 PM

 

Has the UK had a double dip recession like the EU? >:-) ...........

 

Nope B-) ..........

 

That'll annoy the LOSERS (lol) (lol) (lol) ...........

 

Has the EU killed as many people per capita as Doris?

 

Keep on winning.

 

I think you'll find the home of the EU Belgium has a worse death rate than the UK ;-) ...........

 

So it's actually the EU who is winning 8-) ...........

 

 

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pelmetman - 2021-02-12 7:29 PM

 

CurtainRaiser - 2021-02-12 7:25 PM

 

pelmetman - 2021-02-12 7:08 PM

 

Has the UK had a double dip recession like the EU? >:-) ...........

 

Nope B-) ..........

 

That'll annoy the LOSERS (lol) (lol) (lol) ...........

 

Has the EU killed as many people per capita as Doris?

 

Keep on winning.

 

I think you'll find the home of the EU Belgium has a worse death rate than the UK ;-) ...........

 

So it's actually the EU who is winning 8-) ...........

 

 

So we've established this evening that you don't understand "per capita" ?

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CurtainRaiser - 2021-02-12 7:31 PM

 

pelmetman - 2021-02-12 7:29 PM

 

CurtainRaiser - 2021-02-12 7:25 PM

 

pelmetman - 2021-02-12 7:08 PM

 

Has the UK had a double dip recession like the EU? >:-) ...........

 

Nope B-) ..........

 

That'll annoy the LOSERS (lol) (lol) (lol) ...........

 

Has the EU killed as many people per capita as Doris?

 

Keep on winning.

 

I think you'll find the home of the EU Belgium has a worse death rate than the UK ;-) ...........

 

So it's actually the EU who is winning 8-) ...........

 

 

So we've established this evening that you don't understand "per capita" ?

 

We've established this evening that you will happly ignore the FACT that the death rate in the home of the EU is worse than the UK's to score pathetic points *-) ..........

 

I cant say I'm surprised that LOSERS will stoop so low >:-) .........

 

Nor that its a Corbyn supporter who likes to wallow in the gutter :D ..........

 

 

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CurtainRaiser - 2021-02-12 7:25 PM

 

pelmetman - 2021-02-12 7:08 PM

 

Has the UK had a double dip recession like the EU? >:-) ...........

 

Nope B-) ..........

 

That'll annoy the LOSERS (lol) (lol) (lol) ...........

 

Has the EU killed as many people per capita as Doris?

 

Keep on winning.

 

Its down to immune system .

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CurtainRaiser - 2021-02-12 7:08 PM

The UK economy fared badly last year. Adjusting for differences in methodology improves that performance

Depends how you adjust it

If you include the things that suit Sunak, and ignore the things that don't, then performance improves *-)

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Pageant - 2021-02-12 11:22 PM

 

I’d say it’s down to the Dunning-Kruger effect to celebrate us doing a little bit better than Belgium when we’ve got over twice the death rate of Germany.

 

Dunning-Kruger explains so much - Trump, Brexit, my DIY attempts...

 

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Dunning–Kruger_effect

 

I'd say its down to the Angry LOSER effect ;-) ..........

 

Using anything to Bash Boris with because they cant move on with their sado lives and make mole hills out of anything to try to prove Brexit Blighty is on the verge of economic collapse (lol) .........

 

This thread is a perfect example *-) ........

 

Turning a temporary 68% drop in exports by the tiny 5% of businesses that export to the EU into a big deal (lol) (lol) (lol) ..........

 

If our economy was in such dire straits then surely we'd be having a double dip recession like the Up Sh*t Creek EU? >:-) ............

 

 

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John52 - 2021-02-13 9:23 AM

 

CurtainRaiser - 2021-02-12 7:08 PM

The UK economy fared badly last year. Adjusting for differences in methodology improves that performance

Depends how you adjust it

If you include the things that suit Sunak, and ignore the things that don't, then performance improves *-)

 

I guess the EU's adjusted theirs to show them having a double dip recession? (lol) (lol) (lol) .........

 

 

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pelmetman - 2021-02-13 9:32 AM

the tiny 5% of businesses

 

 

You have had it explained to you that the businesses that export to the EU are not likely to be the tiny ones.

They are the big ones that made the most money, paid the most tax, and created the most jobs before Brexit.

Like car factories

With the tiny ones depending on them for their work.

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John52 - 2021-02-13 9:47 AM

 

pelmetman - 2021-02-13 9:32 AM

the tiny 5% of businesses

 

 

You have had it explained to you that the businesses that export to the EU are not likely to be the tiny ones.

They are the big ones that made the most money and created the most jobs before Brexit.

Like car factories

With the tiny ones depending on them for their work.

 

How much does a big business that just assembles parts made in the EU in the UK, actually contribute to UK PLC? :-| ..........

 

Not as much as the LOSER Brigade would have us believe I suspect >:-) .........

 

 

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pelmetman - 2021-02-13 9:34 AM

 

John52 - 2021-02-13 9:23 AM

 

CurtainRaiser - 2021-02-12 7:08 PM

The UK economy fared badly last year. Adjusting for differences in methodology improves that performance

Depends how you adjust it

If you include the things that suit Sunak, and ignore the things that don't, then performance improves *-)

 

I guess the EU's adjusted theirs to show them having a double dip recession? (lol) (lol) (lol) .........

 

 

Wheras you have had a double drop recession

9% drop in GDP.

and then a 68% drop in exports to the EU.

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pelmetman - 2021-02-13 9:49 AM

 

John52 - 2021-02-13 9:47 AM

 

pelmetman - 2021-02-13 9:32 AM

the tiny 5% of businesses

 

 

You have had it explained to you that the businesses that export to the EU are not likely to be the tiny ones.

They are the big ones that made the most money and created the most jobs before Brexit.

Like car factories

With the tiny ones depending on them for their work.

 

How much does a big business that just assembles parts made in the EU in the UK, actually contribute to UK PLC? :-| ..........

 

Not as much as the LOSER Brigade would have us believe I suspect >:-) .........

 

Well I won't confuse you with figures

So look at it this way

Thousands of people having proper jobs and paying tax, instead of drawing benefits for a start.

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John52 - 2021-02-13 9:50 AM

 

pelmetman - 2021-02-13 9:34 AM

 

John52 - 2021-02-13 9:23 AM

 

CurtainRaiser - 2021-02-12 7:08 PM

The UK economy fared badly last year. Adjusting for differences in methodology improves that performance

Depends how you adjust it

If you include the things that suit Sunak, and ignore the things that don't, then performance improves *-)

 

I guess the EU's adjusted theirs to show them having a double dip recession? (lol) (lol) (lol) .........

 

 

Wheras you have had a double drop recession

9% drop in GDP.

and then a 68% drop in exports to the EU.

 

You need to google the meaning of recession >:-) ..........

 

I suspect that drop in 68% will make as much difference to UK PLC, as the 0.00037p we spend on keeping you in binbags :D ..........

 

(lol) (lol) (lol) ..........

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pelmetman - 2021-02-13 9:32 AM

 

Pageant - 2021-02-12 11:22 PM

 

I’d say it’s down to the Dunning-Kruger effect to celebrate us doing a little bit better than Belgium when we’ve got over twice the death rate of Germany.

 

Dunning-Kruger explains so much - Trump, Brexit, my DIY attempts...

 

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Dunning–Kruger_effect

 

I'd say its down to the Angry LOSER effect ;-) ..........

 

Using anything to Bash Boris with because they cant move on with their sado lives and make mole hills out of anything to try to prove Brexit Blighty is on the verge of economic collapse (lol) .........

 

This thread is a perfect example *-) ........

 

Turning a temporary 68% drop in exports by the tiny 5% of businesses that export to the EU into a big deal (lol) (lol) (lol) ..........

 

If our economy was in such dire straits then surely we'd be having a double dip recession like the Up Sh*t Creek EU? >:-) ............

None of what you say explains how 68% loss of our exports to the EU is "a benefit" to UK. I've asked you a number of times to explain but you don't seem to know and instead continue shouting 'losers' and 'haters'. :-|

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Overall freight flows have returned to the same levels as last year.

Internal figures seen by the BBC show outbound roll-on roll-off lorry traffic for Great Britain for the month so far at 98% of last February's levels.

Inbound traffic is at 99% of last year's levels.

The transition period after the UK left the EU is now over, and a new regime is in place.

One official says the government is "pleased that overall flows are back to normal".

About 80-90% of laden lorries are arriving border-ready.

 

BBC Business News.

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jumpstart - 2021-02-14 11:34 AM

 

Overall freight flows have returned to the same levels as last year.

Internal figures seen by the BBC show outbound roll-on roll-off lorry traffic for Great Britain for the month so far at 98% of last February's levels.

Inbound traffic is at 99% of last year's levels.

The transition period after the UK left the EU is now over, and a new regime is in place.

One official says the government is "pleased that overall flows are back to normal".

About 80-90% of laden lorries are arriving border-ready.

 

BBC Business News.

 

You missed off the important bit after the graph

 

"However, their analysis of data from multiple sources - ferry manifests, port traffic, the Channel Tunnel, French officials and Kent Permit checks - also shows:

 

significantly lower traffic in January

a notable rise in the number of empty lorries returning from Great Britain to the European Union, and

specific industries clearly affected by the end of the Brexit transition period

Lorry traffic on the crossing from Kent to the EU on ferries and via the Channel Tunnel in January was 67% of the same month in 2020, and 82% in February.

 

Although there is no formal count of empty lorries, a variety of ferry company, French, and UK official data suggest the proportion of empty lorries going back to the EU at around 50%.

 

French sources suggested Eurotunnel, which tends to transfer higher-value loads, was seeing 50-60% empty loads."

 

And then we had Rabb on Marr this morning agreeing that the best thing UK companies could do is set up factories in Europe.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/feb/14/raab-shrugs-off-brexit-troubles-urging-people-to-take-10-year-view

 

So half the people that voted for it will be dead by then. But of course Grese Smogg and the hedge funds will have cashed in already so Doris has rewarded his paymasters.

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CurtainRaiser - 2021-02-14 12:53 PM

 

jumpstart - 2021-02-14 11:34 AM

 

Overall freight flows have returned to the same levels as last year.

Internal figures seen by the BBC show outbound roll-on roll-off lorry traffic for Great Britain for the month so far at 98% of last February's levels.

Inbound traffic is at 99% of last year's levels.

The transition period after the UK left the EU is now over, and a new regime is in place.

One official says the government is "pleased that overall flows are back to normal".

About 80-90% of laden lorries are arriving border-ready.

 

BBC Business News.

 

You missed off the important bit after the graph

 

"However, their analysis of data from multiple sources - ferry manifests, port traffic, the Channel Tunnel, French officials and Kent Permit checks - also shows:

 

significantly lower traffic in January

a notable rise in the number of empty lorries returning from Great Britain to the European Union, and

specific industries clearly affected by the end of the Brexit transition period

Lorry traffic on the crossing from Kent to the EU on ferries and via the Channel Tunnel in January was 67% of the same month in 2020, and 82% in February.

 

Although there is no formal count of empty lorries, a variety of ferry company, French, and UK official data suggest the proportion of empty lorries going back to the EU at around 50%.

 

French sources suggested Eurotunnel, which tends to transfer higher-value loads, was seeing 50-60% empty loads."

 

And then we had Rabb on Marr this morning agreeing that the best thing UK companies could do is set up factories in Europe.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/feb/14/raab-shrugs-off-brexit-troubles-urging-people-to-take-10-year-view

 

So half the people that voted for it will be dead by then. But of course Grese Smogg and the hedge funds will have cashed in already so Doris has rewarded his paymasters.

 

Indeed

Not only ignores whether the lorries have any goods onboard

.. but how long they are taking to complete the journey

They have already said they are running back empty because getting into the EU with goods on board takes too long

Not so bad coming into England because there are no checks yet.

Imports coming in unchecked, So at least the public haven't noticed shortages.

Smugglers paradise - Exporters nightmare.

How much longer will it take to dawn on Brexiteers that we need to export to pay for our imports *-)

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Charles - 2021-02-14 1:37 PM

 

Most remainers know when to shut up and accept Brexit. Not on here... Jesus, get over it! it's happened, thank god we're out, that's the main thing, everything else can be sorted.

 

Winge

 

Winge

 

Winge

 

Winge

 

Etc

 

Etc

 

??

 

Go on then, tell us where all the financial benefits are that were promised and how you are going to enjoy your retirement spending the winter in Skegness?

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CurtainRaiser - 2021-02-14 1:51 PM

 

Charles - 2021-02-14 1:37 PM

 

Most remainers know when to shut up and accept Brexit. Not on here... Jesus, get over it! it's happened, thank god we're out, that's the main thing, everything else can be sorted.

 

Winge

 

Winge

 

Winge

 

Winge

 

Etc

 

Etc

 

??

 

Go on then, tell us where all the financial benefits are that were promised and how you are going to enjoy your retirement spending the winter in Skegness?

 

 

That’s like putting your money in shares then after a month ....have they gone down.....?

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jumpstart - 2021-02-14 2:09 PM

 

CurtainRaiser - 2021-02-14 1:51 PM

 

Charles - 2021-02-14 1:37 PM

 

Most remainers know when to shut up and accept Brexit. Not on here... Jesus, get over it! it's happened, thank god we're out, that's the main thing, everything else can be sorted.

 

Winge

 

Winge

 

Winge

 

Winge

 

Etc

 

Etc

 

??

 

Go on then, tell us where all the financial benefits are that were promised and how you are going to enjoy your retirement spending the winter in Skegness?

 

 

That’s like putting your money in shares then after a month ....have they gone down.....?

 

So you are in the "put up with nine years of misery because in year ten things might return to where they were last year" camp. How old are you ?

 

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/feb/14/raab-shrugs-off-brexit-troubles-urging-people-to-take-10-year-view

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