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Guest pelmetman
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Brian Kirby - 2021-02-25 11:13 AM

 

pelmetman - 2021-02-24 2:50 PM

CurtainRaiser - 2021-02-24 11:17 AM

Rafael Behr is a Guardian columnist

Says everything (lol) (lol) (lol) ..........

To you, sadly, almost certainly! :-D

Doesn't necessarily make what he says wrong, though, does it?

Are you really so narrow minded that you only believe what right wingers say? If so, how would you ever know if the political right was making mistakes? Are you really so naïve as to believe any political grouping will publicly admit its own mistakes? Our whole political system relies on the existence of an opposite point of view to sharpen the intellects of the governing party. How else could it work?

 

It makes him another blinkered Loony Lefty Liberal EU Lover *-) .........

 

You may wish to swallow his guff ;-) .........

 

But the Pandemic is showing the world everyday just how right we were to leave that shower of sh*te (lol) (lol) (lol) ................

 

 

Guest pelmetman
Posted
jumpstart - 2021-02-26 7:30 AM

 

Bulletguy - 2021-02-25 10:06 PM

 

jumpstart - 2021-02-25 9:32 PM

 

Bulletguy - 2021-02-25 8:12 PM

 

jumpstart - 2021-02-25 5:39 PM

 

Bulletguy - 2021-02-25 5:14 PM

 

jumpstart - 2021-02-25 4:35 PM

 

Bulletguy - 2021-02-25 1:41 PM

 

CurtainRaiser - 2021-02-25 12:46 PM

 

jumpstart - 2021-02-25 12:18 PM

 

 

Interesting reading Sylvie Bermann thoughts about the brexit vote whilst French ambassador. She said had they known that the vote was likely to go against the EU they would have given more to Cameron when he came to see them prior to the vote . Got that wrong didn't they.

 

She said some other interesting stuff too, I'm surprised you missed it out?!:

 

"Boris Johnson is "an unrepentant and inveterate liar" who is not subject to the same rules as others, a former French diplomat to the UK has said in her new book.

 

Sylvie Bermann, the French ambassador to the UK during the Brexit vote, also claimed Brexiteers were consumed with a hatred for Germany and were gripped by a myth that they liberated Europe on their down during World War II.

Well.........she's certainly got her finger on the pulse hasn't she?!!

 

Some of it a dead pulse. Hatred of Germany ...really , don't believe it.

And the French don't?

The bit about Boris, we know that.

She's educated and well traveled and I found her views observed and pertinent. Just because she isn't dancing to the Brexit tune doesn't make her wrong. As you're beginning to discover for yourselves but understandably find it difficult to admit, Brexit has already done catastrophic damage to this country.

 

And some of it just plain wrong in my opinion. I’m also educated ,well travelled and I think it very early days to come to a conclusion yet.

Can you be a bit more specific? As I said just because she isn't dancing to your Brexit tune doesn't make her wrong.

 

What the hell would she know about the British public. The nearest she has been to any is when she would have flown over us between Paris and London.Its complete nonsense ,bet she's never been in a pub in Fulham , all she's ever met is other ambassadors and prats in London. What song did you have in mind.

That's exactly the backward bigoted view i'd expect from Pelmet types and thought you could stand above that level.

 

So do you hate Germans ? Does anyone on here hate Germans. We have more in common and closer ties in the past with Germany. Infact France has historically been our enemy.

Any countries out there that might hate Germany.. ...well there's Poland and Greece, the Nethetlands Norway in fact probably most of europe more than the UK. So its rubbish...and just the sort of think you would like to believe.

 

Apparently anyone who voted for Brexit is a racist zenophobe *-) .........

 

That must be why I go too Spain every winter ;-) .........

 

To be with people I hate 8-) ..........

 

(lol) (lol) (lol) ............

Posted
jumpstart - 2021-02-26 7:30 AM

 

Bulletguy - 2021-02-25 10:06 PM

 

jumpstart - 2021-02-25 9:32 PM

 

Bulletguy - 2021-02-25 8:12 PM

 

jumpstart - 2021-02-25 5:39 PM

 

Bulletguy - 2021-02-25 5:14 PM

 

jumpstart - 2021-02-25 4:35 PM

 

Bulletguy - 2021-02-25 1:41 PM

 

CurtainRaiser - 2021-02-25 12:46 PM

 

jumpstart - 2021-02-25 12:18 PM

 

 

Interesting reading Sylvie Bermann thoughts about the brexit vote whilst French ambassador. She said had they known that the vote was likely to go against the EU they would have given more to Cameron when he came to see them prior to the vote . Got that wrong didn't they.

 

She said some other interesting stuff too, I'm surprised you missed it out?!:

 

"Boris Johnson is "an unrepentant and inveterate liar" who is not subject to the same rules as others, a former French diplomat to the UK has said in her new book.

 

Sylvie Bermann, the French ambassador to the UK during the Brexit vote, also claimed Brexiteers were consumed with a hatred for Germany and were gripped by a myth that they liberated Europe on their down during World War II.

Well.........she's certainly got her finger on the pulse hasn't she?!!

 

Some of it a dead pulse. Hatred of Germany ...really , don't believe it.

And the French don't?

The bit about Boris, we know that.

She's educated and well traveled and I found her views observed and pertinent. Just because she isn't dancing to the Brexit tune doesn't make her wrong. As you're beginning to discover for yourselves but understandably find it difficult to admit, Brexit has already done catastrophic damage to this country.

 

And some of it just plain wrong in my opinion. I’m also educated ,well travelled and I think it very early days to come to a conclusion yet.

Can you be a bit more specific? As I said just because she isn't dancing to your Brexit tune doesn't make her wrong.

 

What the hell would she know about the British public. The nearest she has been to any is when she would have flown over us between Paris and London.Its complete nonsense ,bet she's never been in a pub in Fulham , all she's ever met is other ambassadors and prats in London. What song did you have in mind.

That's exactly the backward bigoted view i'd expect from Pelmet types and thought you could stand above that level.

 

So do you hate Germans ? Does anyone on here hate Germans. We have more in common and closer ties in the past with Germany. Infact France has historically been our enemy.

Any countries out there that might hate Germany.. ...well there's Poland and Greece, the Nethetlands Norway in fact probably most of europe more than the UK. So its rubbish...and just the sort of think you would like to believe.

 

So why have the Saxe-Coburgs changed their name to Windsor ?

Posted
pelmetman - 2021-02-26 8:41 AM

 

 

Apparently anyone who voted for Brexit is a racist zenophobe *-) .........

 

......

 

Not necessarily

Some are £billionaires domiciled in Her Majesty's Tax Havens worried about an EU wide tax treaty making them pay tax instead of you.

Posted
John52 - 2021-02-26 8:46 AM

 

jumpstart - 2021-02-26 7:30 AM

 

Bulletguy - 2021-02-25 10:06 PM

 

jumpstart - 2021-02-25 9:32 PM

 

Bulletguy - 2021-02-25 8:12 PM

 

jumpstart - 2021-02-25 5:39 PM

 

Bulletguy - 2021-02-25 5:14 PM

 

jumpstart - 2021-02-25 4:35 PM

 

Bulletguy - 2021-02-25 1:41 PM

 

CurtainRaiser - 2021-02-25 12:46 PM

 

jumpstart - 2021-02-25 12:18 PM

 

 

Interesting reading Sylvie Bermann thoughts about the brexit vote whilst French ambassador. She said had they known that the vote was likely to go against the EU they would have given more to Cameron when he came to see them prior to the vote . Got that wrong didn't they.

 

She said some other interesting stuff too, I'm surprised you missed it out?!:

 

"Boris Johnson is "an unrepentant and inveterate liar" who is not subject to the same rules as others, a former French diplomat to the UK has said in her new book.

 

Sylvie Bermann, the French ambassador to the UK during the Brexit vote, also claimed Brexiteers were consumed with a hatred for Germany and were gripped by a myth that they liberated Europe on their down during World War II.

Well.........she's certainly got her finger on the pulse hasn't she?!!

 

Some of it a dead pulse. Hatred of Germany ...really , don't believe it.

And the French don't?

The bit about Boris, we know that.

She's educated and well traveled and I found her views observed and pertinent. Just because she isn't dancing to the Brexit tune doesn't make her wrong. As you're beginning to discover for yourselves but understandably find it difficult to admit, Brexit has already done catastrophic damage to this country.

 

And some of it just plain wrong in my opinion. I’m also educated ,well travelled and I think it very early days to come to a conclusion yet.

Can you be a bit more specific? As I said just because she isn't dancing to your Brexit tune doesn't make her wrong.

 

What the hell would she know about the British public. The nearest she has been to any is when she would have flown over us between Paris and London.Its complete nonsense ,bet she's never been in a pub in Fulham , all she's ever met is other ambassadors and prats in London. What song did you have in mind.

That's exactly the backward bigoted view i'd expect from Pelmet types and thought you could stand above that level.

 

So do you hate Germans ? Does anyone on here hate Germans. We have more in common and closer ties in the past with Germany. Infact France has historically been our enemy.

Any countries out there that might hate Germany.. ...well there's Poland and Greece, the Nethetlands Norway in fact probably most of europe more than the UK. So its rubbish...and just the sort of think you would like to believe.

 

So why have the Saxe-Coburgs changed their name to Windsor ?

 

You know why.

Posted
jumpstart - 2021-02-26 7:30 AM

 

Bulletguy - 2021-02-25 10:06 PM

 

jumpstart - 2021-02-25 9:32 PM

 

Bulletguy - 2021-02-25 8:12 PM

 

jumpstart - 2021-02-25 5:39 PM

 

Bulletguy - 2021-02-25 5:14 PM

 

jumpstart - 2021-02-25 4:35 PM

 

Bulletguy - 2021-02-25 1:41 PM

 

CurtainRaiser - 2021-02-25 12:46 PM

 

jumpstart - 2021-02-25 12:18 PM

 

 

Interesting reading Sylvie Bermann thoughts about the brexit vote whilst French ambassador. She said had they known that the vote was likely to go against the EU they would have given more to Cameron when he came to see them prior to the vote . Got that wrong didn't they.

 

She said some other interesting stuff too, I'm surprised you missed it out?!:

 

"Boris Johnson is "an unrepentant and inveterate liar" who is not subject to the same rules as others, a former French diplomat to the UK has said in her new book.

 

Sylvie Bermann, the French ambassador to the UK during the Brexit vote, also claimed Brexiteers were consumed with a hatred for Germany and were gripped by a myth that they liberated Europe on their down during World War II.

Well.........she's certainly got her finger on the pulse hasn't she?!!

 

Some of it a dead pulse. Hatred of Germany ...really , don't believe it.

And the French don't?

The bit about Boris, we know that.

She's educated and well traveled and I found her views observed and pertinent. Just because she isn't dancing to the Brexit tune doesn't make her wrong. As you're beginning to discover for yourselves but understandably find it difficult to admit, Brexit has already done catastrophic damage to this country.

 

And some of it just plain wrong in my opinion. I’m also educated ,well travelled and I think it very early days to come to a conclusion yet.

Can you be a bit more specific? As I said just because she isn't dancing to your Brexit tune doesn't make her wrong.

 

What the hell would she know about the British public. The nearest she has been to any is when she would have flown over us between Paris and London.Its complete nonsense ,bet she's never been in a pub in Fulham , all she's ever met is other ambassadors and prats in London. What song did you have in mind.

That's exactly the backward bigoted view i'd expect from Pelmet types and thought you could stand above that level.

 

So do you hate Germans ?

Absolutely not, what on earth gave you that idea?

 

Does anyone on here hate Germans.

You read the forum often enough.

 

Any countries out there that might hate Germany.. ...well there's Poland and Greece, the Nethetlands Norway in fact probably most of europe more than the UK. So its rubbish...and just the sort of think you would like to believe.

Yes what you wrote there is certainly rubbish as it's just sweeping generalisations!

Posted
Bulletguy - 2021-02-26 3:33 PM

 

jumpstart - 2021-02-26 7:30 AM

 

Bulletguy - 2021-02-25 10:06 PM

 

jumpstart - 2021-02-25 9:32 PM

 

Bulletguy - 2021-02-25 8:12 PM

 

jumpstart - 2021-02-25 5:39 PM

 

Bulletguy - 2021-02-25 5:14 PM

 

jumpstart - 2021-02-25 4:35 PM

 

Bulletguy - 2021-02-25 1:41 PM

 

CurtainRaiser - 2021-02-25 12:46 PM

 

jumpstart - 2021-02-25 12:18 PM

 

 

Interesting reading Sylvie Bermann thoughts about the brexit vote whilst French ambassador. She said had they known that the vote was likely to go against the EU they would have given more to Cameron when he came to see them prior to the vote . Got that wrong didn't they.

 

She said some other interesting stuff too, I'm surprised you missed it out?!:

 

"Boris Johnson is "an unrepentant and inveterate liar" who is not subject to the same rules as others, a former French diplomat to the UK has said in her new book.

 

Sylvie Bermann, the French ambassador to the UK during the Brexit vote, also claimed Brexiteers were consumed with a hatred for Germany and were gripped by a myth that they liberated Europe on their down during World War II.

Well.........she's certainly got her finger on the pulse hasn't she?!!

 

Some of it a dead pulse. Hatred of Germany ...really , don't believe it.

And the French don't?

The bit about Boris, we know that.

She's educated and well traveled and I found her views observed and pertinent. Just because she isn't dancing to the Brexit tune doesn't make her wrong. As you're beginning to discover for yourselves but understandably find it difficult to admit, Brexit has already done catastrophic damage to this country.

 

And some of it just plain wrong in my opinion. I’m also educated ,well travelled and I think it very early days to come to a conclusion yet.

Can you be a bit more specific? As I said just because she isn't dancing to your Brexit tune doesn't make her wrong.

 

What the hell would she know about the British public. The nearest she has been to any is when she would have flown over us between Paris and London.Its complete nonsense ,bet she's never been in a pub in Fulham , all she's ever met is other ambassadors and prats in London. What song did you have in mind.

That's exactly the backward bigoted view i'd expect from Pelmet types and thought you could stand above that level.

 

So do you hate Germans ?

Absolutely not, what on earth gave you that idea?

 

Does anyone on here hate Germans.

You read the forum often enough.

 

Any countries out there that might hate Germany.. ...well there's Poland and Greece, the Nethetlands Norway in fact probably most of europe more than the UK. So its rubbish...and just the sort of think you would like to believe.

Yes what you wrote there is certainly rubbish as it's just sweeping generalisations!

 

Oh you mean like the generalisation Brexiters hate Germans.

Yes you are certainly right about it all being rubbish.

Guest pelmetman
Posted
jumpstart - 2021-02-26 4:31 PM

 

Bulletguy - 2021-02-26 3:33 PM

 

jumpstart - 2021-02-26 7:30 AM

 

Bulletguy - 2021-02-25 10:06 PM

 

jumpstart - 2021-02-25 9:32 PM

 

Bulletguy - 2021-02-25 8:12 PM

 

jumpstart - 2021-02-25 5:39 PM

 

Bulletguy - 2021-02-25 5:14 PM

 

jumpstart - 2021-02-25 4:35 PM

 

Bulletguy - 2021-02-25 1:41 PM

 

CurtainRaiser - 2021-02-25 12:46 PM

 

jumpstart - 2021-02-25 12:18 PM

 

 

Interesting reading Sylvie Bermann thoughts about the brexit vote whilst French ambassador. She said had they known that the vote was likely to go against the EU they would have given more to Cameron when he came to see them prior to the vote . Got that wrong didn't they.

 

She said some other interesting stuff too, I'm surprised you missed it out?!:

 

"Boris Johnson is "an unrepentant and inveterate liar" who is not subject to the same rules as others, a former French diplomat to the UK has said in her new book.

 

Sylvie Bermann, the French ambassador to the UK during the Brexit vote, also claimed Brexiteers were consumed with a hatred for Germany and were gripped by a myth that they liberated Europe on their down during World War II.

Well.........she's certainly got her finger on the pulse hasn't she?!!

 

Some of it a dead pulse. Hatred of Germany ...really , don't believe it.

And the French don't?

The bit about Boris, we know that.

She's educated and well traveled and I found her views observed and pertinent. Just because she isn't dancing to the Brexit tune doesn't make her wrong. As you're beginning to discover for yourselves but understandably find it difficult to admit, Brexit has already done catastrophic damage to this country.

 

And some of it just plain wrong in my opinion. I’m also educated ,well travelled and I think it very early days to come to a conclusion yet.

Can you be a bit more specific? As I said just because she isn't dancing to your Brexit tune doesn't make her wrong.

 

What the hell would she know about the British public. The nearest she has been to any is when she would have flown over us between Paris and London.Its complete nonsense ,bet she's never been in a pub in Fulham , all she's ever met is other ambassadors and prats in London. What song did you have in mind.

That's exactly the backward bigoted view i'd expect from Pelmet types and thought you could stand above that level.

 

So do you hate Germans ?

Absolutely not, what on earth gave you that idea?

 

Does anyone on here hate Germans.

You read the forum often enough.

 

Any countries out there that might hate Germany.. ...well there's Poland and Greece, the Nethetlands Norway in fact probably most of europe more than the UK. So its rubbish...and just the sort of think you would like to believe.

Yes what you wrote there is certainly rubbish as it's just sweeping generalisations!

 

Oh you mean like the generalisation Brexiters hate Germans.

Yes you are certainly right about it all being rubbish.

 

I prefer to hate .....HATERS & LOSERS ......nowadays :D ......

 

Just sayin ;-) ......

 

 

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