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... Gone, disappeared, run off quicker than all those EU folk who've gone back home ... https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1468216/labour-party-news-membership-numbers-decrease-keir-starmer-leadership-latest ... Looks like the begging letters will be sent out to the remains members ... Looks like they've chucked tonnes of cash at antisemitism claims against them, yuk ... Looks like they are skint ... Lordy my
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Good.

 

Union funding is also drying up.

 

Perhaps now a socialist party can be setup.

 

"Hilary Wainwright, in her classic study, observed that Labour was really two parties crammed into one: a democratic socialist party, aspiring to far-reaching social transformation, and a reformist party satisfied with humanising British capitalism, smoothing at least some of its rougher edges. The latter has held the upper hand for almost all of Labour’s history.

 

The Labour left could be tolerated by the right so long as it was kept in a subordinate role, a status that was perhaps easier for it to accept during the heyday of post-war social democracy. But Labour’s broad church has always been forced together more by electoral necessity – specifically by first-past-the-post, which presents smaller parties with formidable barriers to entry – than by shared commitments. Corbyn’s leadership tested the limits of this, and demonstrated how little common ground there now is between Labour’s left and right."

 

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/jul/25/keir-starmer-shrinking-labour-party-members-broad-church?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other

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Birdbrain - 2021-07-28 1:56 PM

 

One presumes Holocaust denier Ken Loach a staunch socialist

Nothing wrong in being a staunch socialist.........there's everything wrong in being a Holocaust denier.

 

Worse still is wrongfully accusing someone of it.

 

Letters - Thu 5 Oct 2017 Ken Loach: I give no legitimacy to Holocaust denial

 

The Holocaust is as real a historical event as the second world war itself, and it is contemptible to imply that I have anything in common with people like David Irving, writes Ken Loach

 

You recently published an attack on me and others by Jonathan Freedland (theguardian.com, 27 September) suggesting we were in part responsible for Labour’s “dark place”. In particular, it was alleged that I gave “spurious legitimacy” to Holocaust denial. Can I at least make one thing clear? In a BBC interview, where speech overlapped, my words have been twisted to suggest that I think it is acceptable to question the reality of the Holocaust. I do not. The Holocaust is as real a historical event as the second world war itself and not to be challenged. In Primo Levi’s words: “Those who deny Auschwitz would be ready to remake it.” The terrible pictures I first saw as a nine-year-old are ingrained on my memory, as they are for all my generation. Like readers of this paper, I know the history of Holocaust denial, its place in far right politics and the role of people like David Irving. To imply that I would have anything in common with them is contemptible. There are many, Jews and non-Jews alike, who challenge Freedland’s judgment on the allegations of antisemitism. The Jewish Socialists’ Group wrote “accusations of antisemitism are being weaponised to attack the Jeremy Corbyn-led Labour Party”. My full response is available online at the website of Jewish Voice for Labour.

 

Ken Loach

London

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Bulletguy - 2021-07-28 2:33 PM

 

Birdbrain - 2021-07-28 1:56 PM

 

One presumes Holocaust denier Ken Loach a staunch socialist

Nothing wrong in being a staunch socialist.........there's everything wrong in being a Holocaust denier.

 

Worse still is wrongfully accusing someone of it.

 

Letters - Thu 5 Oct 2017 Ken Loach: I give no legitimacy to Holocaust denial

 

The Holocaust is as real a historical event as the second world war itself, and it is contemptible to imply that I have anything in common with people like David Irving, writes Ken Loach

 

You recently published an attack on me and others by Jonathan Freedland (theguardian.com, 27 September) suggesting we were in part responsible for Labour’s “dark place”. In particular, it was alleged that I gave “spurious legitimacy” to Holocaust denial. Can I at least make one thing clear? In a BBC interview, where speech overlapped, my words have been twisted to suggest that I think it is acceptable to question the reality of the Holocaust. I do not. The Holocaust is as real a historical event as the second world war itself and not to be challenged. In Primo Levi’s words: “Those who deny Auschwitz would be ready to remake it.” The terrible pictures I first saw as a nine-year-old are ingrained on my memory, as they are for all my generation. Like readers of this paper, I know the history of Holocaust denial, its place in far right politics and the role of people like David Irving. To imply that I would have anything in common with them is contemptible. There are many, Jews and non-Jews alike, who challenge Freedland’s judgment on the allegations of antisemitism. The Jewish Socialists’ Group wrote “accusations of antisemitism are being weaponised to attack the Jeremy Corbyn-led Labour Party”. My full response is available online at the website of Jewish Voice for Labour.

 

Ken Loach

London

 

Mr Loach also claimed there was no validity of ant-semitism in his and your Corbyn Labour Party ... https://thecritic.co.uk/why-is-ken-loach-judging-an-anti-racism-competition/ ... Sumat the EHRC report totally disagrees with ... Chuckle

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Birdbrain - 2021-07-28 2:52 PM

 

Bulletguy - 2021-07-28 2:33 PM

 

Birdbrain - 2021-07-28 1:56 PM

 

One presumes Holocaust denier Ken Loach a staunch socialist

Nothing wrong in being a staunch socialist.........there's everything wrong in being a Holocaust denier.

 

Worse still is wrongfully accusing someone of it.

 

Letters - Thu 5 Oct 2017 Ken Loach: I give no legitimacy to Holocaust denial

 

The Holocaust is as real a historical event as the second world war itself, and it is contemptible to imply that I have anything in common with people like David Irving, writes Ken Loach

 

You recently published an attack on me and others by Jonathan Freedland (theguardian.com, 27 September) suggesting we were in part responsible for Labour’s “dark place”. In particular, it was alleged that I gave “spurious legitimacy” to Holocaust denial. Can I at least make one thing clear? In a BBC interview, where speech overlapped, my words have been twisted to suggest that I think it is acceptable to question the reality of the Holocaust. I do not. The Holocaust is as real a historical event as the second world war itself and not to be challenged. In Primo Levi’s words: “Those who deny Auschwitz would be ready to remake it.” The terrible pictures I first saw as a nine-year-old are ingrained on my memory, as they are for all my generation. Like readers of this paper, I know the history of Holocaust denial, its place in far right politics and the role of people like David Irving. To imply that I would have anything in common with them is contemptible. There are many, Jews and non-Jews alike, who challenge Freedland’s judgment on the allegations of antisemitism. The Jewish Socialists’ Group wrote “accusations of antisemitism are being weaponised to attack the Jeremy Corbyn-led Labour Party”. My full response is available online at the website of Jewish Voice for Labour.

 

Ken Loach

London

 

Mr Loach also claimed there was no validity of ant-semitism in his and your Corbyn Labour Party ... https://thecritic.co.uk/why-is-ken-loach-judging-an-anti-racism-competition/ ... Sumat the EHRC report totally disagrees with ... Chuckle

 

Except the EHRC report doesn't say that, as you already know.

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Birdbrain - 2021-07-28 2:52 PM

 

Bulletguy - 2021-07-28 2:33 PM

 

Birdbrain - 2021-07-28 1:56 PM

 

One presumes Holocaust denier Ken Loach a staunch socialist

Nothing wrong in being a staunch socialist.........there's everything wrong in being a Holocaust denier.

 

Worse still is wrongfully accusing someone of it.

 

Letters - Thu 5 Oct 2017 Ken Loach: I give no legitimacy to Holocaust denial

 

The Holocaust is as real a historical event as the second world war itself, and it is contemptible to imply that I have anything in common with people like David Irving, writes Ken Loach

 

You recently published an attack on me and others by Jonathan Freedland (theguardian.com, 27 September) suggesting we were in part responsible for Labour’s “dark place”. In particular, it was alleged that I gave “spurious legitimacy” to Holocaust denial. Can I at least make one thing clear? In a BBC interview, where speech overlapped, my words have been twisted to suggest that I think it is acceptable to question the reality of the Holocaust. I do not. The Holocaust is as real a historical event as the second world war itself and not to be challenged. In Primo Levi’s words: “Those who deny Auschwitz would be ready to remake it.” The terrible pictures I first saw as a nine-year-old are ingrained on my memory, as they are for all my generation. Like readers of this paper, I know the history of Holocaust denial, its place in far right politics and the role of people like David Irving. To imply that I would have anything in common with them is contemptible. There are many, Jews and non-Jews alike, who challenge Freedland’s judgment on the allegations of antisemitism. The Jewish Socialists’ Group wrote “accusations of antisemitism are being weaponised to attack the Jeremy Corbyn-led Labour Party”. My full response is available online at the website of Jewish Voice for Labour.

 

Ken Loach

London

 

Mr Loach also claimed there was no validity of ant-semitism in his and your Corbyn Labour Party ... https://thecritic.co.uk/why-is-ken-loach-judging-an-anti-racism-competition/ ... Sumat the EHRC report totally disagrees with ... Chuckle

None of which makes him a Holocaust denier.

 

Btw when is Johnson going to start a fully independent inquiry into your Tory parties vile Islamophobia? Baroness Warsi has been calling for one for years. There's also the matter of that parties involvement with neo-Nazi groups in Europe, an issue a Tory peer bravely tried to raise, but promptly got kicked out of the ECG who were cozying up with a far right extremist group.

 

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/boris-johnson-tory-neo-nazi-anti-islam-hitler-conservative-party-b1254794.html

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Birdbrain - 2021-07-28 1:13 PM

 

... Gone, disappeared, run off quicker than all those EU folk who've gone back home ... https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1468216/labour-party-news-membership-numbers-decrease-keir-starmer-leadership-latest ... Looks like the begging letters will be sent out to the remains members ... Looks like they've chucked tonnes of cash at antisemitism claims against them, yuk ... Looks like they are skint ... Lordy my

 

I guess they could always set up their own party ;-) ...........

 

They could call it.........The "New" Communist Party of Great Britain :D .........

 

So as not to be confused with the other Communist Parties of Great Britain >:-) .........

 

"The Communist Party of Britain (CPB) is a communist political party in Great Britain committed to Marxist–Leninist theory.[8] The party emerged from a dispute between Eurocommunists and Marxist-Leninists in the Communist Party of Great Britain in 1988."

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist_Party_of_Britain

 

(lol) (lol) (lol) ............

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This is interesting on the changing pattern of donations to the Conservative Party under Johnson. £18,000,000 from just 154 donors. So now a quarter of Tory funds come from the property sector - and donations, rather than, say, membership fees, make up 82% of party income

 

https://www.ft.com/content/c5737fbb-2893-4a5a-be5e-965785f1a37b

 

"A £150,000 donation by Bloor Holdings was made just 48 hours after a minister approved a controversial housing scheme for his company"

 

Perhaps these donations are wholly altruistic. But it is not healthy for a govt to be so financially dependent on the interests it's regulating, the next Grenfell in the making?

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CurtainRaiser - 2021-07-30 10:22 AM

 

"A £150,000 donation by Bloor Holdings was made just 48 hours after a minister approved a controversial housing scheme for his company"

 

Perhaps these donations are wholly altruistic. But it is not healthy for a govt to be so financially dependent on the interests it's regulating, the next Grenfell in the making?

Without a shadow of doubt. Corruption within this government is rife and certain types applaud it.

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Bulletguy - 2021-07-30 2:26 PM

 

CurtainRaiser - 2021-07-30 10:22 AM

 

"A £150,000 donation by Bloor Holdings was made just 48 hours after a minister approved a controversial housing scheme for his company"

 

Perhaps these donations are wholly altruistic. But it is not healthy for a govt to be so financially dependent on the interests it's regulating, the next Grenfell in the making?

Without a shadow of doubt. Corruption within this government is rife and certain types applaud it.

 

"Corruption within this government is rife" ... For once, just once maybe you can back that claim up with numerous proven corruption examples ... Given you say its rife it should be easy

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