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CurtainRaiser - 2021-07-31 7:30 PM

 

2019! You are really struggling aren't you?

 

The good news is that the Daily Wail story also led to a increase in donations.

 

The dates there for all to see sweet cheeks, no hiding it ... Political correctness doesnt have a date, time or year ... Its just political correctness ... SFH princess

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Birdbrain - 2021-07-31 7:38 PM

 

CurtainRaiser - 2021-07-31 7:30 PM

 

2019! You are really struggling aren't you?

 

The good news is that the Daily Wail story also led to a increase in donations.

 

The dates there for all to see sweet cheeks, no hiding it ... Political correctness doesnt have a date, time or year ... Its just political correctness ... SFH princess

 

So I take it that you think that photoshopping the image of one of the few female inspectors onto a pornographic image on the side of a mug, and placing the mug prominently on the table in front of the Inspector during a Unit inspection is just a bit of a joke?

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CurtainRaiser - 2021-07-31 7:30 PM

 

2019! You are really struggling aren't you?

 

The good news is that the Daily Wail story also led to a increase in donations.

He's been desperately searching for something negative about the RNLI......can't get much lower than that. *-)

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CurtainRaiser - 2021-07-31 8:02 PM

 

Birdbrain - 2021-07-31 7:38 PM

 

CurtainRaiser - 2021-07-31 7:30 PM

 

2019! You are really struggling aren't you?

 

The good news is that the Daily Wail story also led to a increase in donations.

 

The dates there for all to see sweet cheeks, no hiding it ... Political correctness doesnt have a date, time or year ... Its just political correctness ... SFH princess

 

So I take it that you think that photoshopping the image of one of the few female inspectors onto a pornographic image on the side of a mug, and placing the mug prominently on the table in front of the Inspector during a Unit inspection is just a bit of a joke?

 

Chuckle ... Pi$$ funny ... Would loved to have seen that

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Bulletguy - 2021-07-31 8:02 PM

 

CurtainRaiser - 2021-07-31 7:30 PM

 

2019! You are really struggling aren't you?

 

The good news is that the Daily Wail story also led to a increase in donations.

He's been desperately searching for something negative about the RNLI......can't get much lower than that. *-)

 

Hey your alive ... Cool ... Take it youve had a busy day with the family or sumat seen as you aint answered my question on your numero uno hate thread ... You any closer to an answer???

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Birdbrain - 2021-07-31 8:05 PM

 

CurtainRaiser - 2021-07-31 8:02 PM

 

Birdbrain - 2021-07-31 7:38 PM

 

CurtainRaiser - 2021-07-31 7:30 PM

 

2019! You are really struggling aren't you?

 

The good news is that the Daily Wail story also led to a increase in donations.

 

The dates there for all to see sweet cheeks, no hiding it ... Political correctness doesnt have a date, time or year ... Its just political correctness ... SFH princess

 

So I take it that you think that photoshopping the image of one of the few female inspectors onto a pornographic image on the side of a mug, and placing the mug prominently on the table in front of the Inspector during a Unit inspection is just a bit of a joke?

 

Chuckle ... Pi$$ funny ... Would loved to have seen that

 

Might have guessed that you would support sexual harassment in the workplace.

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Birdbrain - 2021-07-31 8:05 PM

 

CurtainRaiser - 2021-07-31 8:02 PM

 

Birdbrain - 2021-07-31 7:38 PM

 

CurtainRaiser - 2021-07-31 7:30 PM

 

2019! You are really struggling aren't you?

 

The good news is that the Daily Wail story also led to a increase in donations.

 

The dates there for all to see sweet cheeks, no hiding it ... Political correctness doesnt have a date, time or year ... Its just political correctness ... SFH princess

 

So I take it that you think that photoshopping the image of one of the few female inspectors onto a pornographic image on the side of a mug, and placing the mug prominently on the table in front of the Inspector during a Unit inspection is just a bit of a joke?

 

Chuckle ... Pi$$ funny ... Would loved to have seen that

 

Might have guessed that you would support sexual harassment in the workplace.

 

From the fella who threatened to blow me up and admits to liking punching folk thats pretty funny ... Stop Funding Hate

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Birdbrain - 2021-07-31 7:05 PM

 

Real RNLI hero ... https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7489781/Lifeboat-skipper-51-quits-RNLI-grip-political-correctness.html?ito=amp_twitter_share-top ... Like he says if he'd said what he says while an RNLI member he'd be sacked ... Prolly lots that think like him ... A proper full on hero

= RNLI soft on migrants = get the RNLI = here's a handy DM article critical of RNLI = RNLI now discredited, so national treasure becomes fair game = spurious reasoning. But hey - any port in a storm when the target's in play, innit! :-D

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Brian Kirby - 2021-08-01 9:04 AM

 

Birdbrain - 2021-07-31 7:05 PM

 

Real RNLI hero ... https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7489781/Lifeboat-skipper-51-quits-RNLI-grip-political-correctness.html?ito=amp_twitter_share-top ... Like he says if he'd said what he says while an RNLI member he'd be sacked ... Prolly lots that think like him ... A proper full on hero

= RNLI soft on migrants = get the RNLI = here's a handy DM article critical of RNLI = RNLI now discredited, so national treasure becomes fair game = spurious reasoning. But hey - any port in a storm when the target's in play, innit! :-D

 

Chuckle

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Birdbrain - 2021-07-31 7:05 PM

 

Real RNLI hero ... https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7489781/Lifeboat-skipper-51-quits-RNLI-grip-political-correctness.html?ito=amp_twitter_share-top ... Like he says if he'd said what he says while an RNLI member he'd be sacked ... Prolly lots that think like him ... A proper full on hero

= RNLI soft on migrants = get the RNLI = here's a handy DM article critical of RNLI = RNLI now discredited, so national treasure becomes fair game = spurious reasoning. But hey - any port in a storm when the target's in play, innit! :-D

 

I'm trying to protect the RNLI ... Selfish chancers who could have claimed asylum in many safe countries before screaming for help in British waters should not be putting our brave RNLI lives at risk ... Try keep it real

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Birdbrain - 2021-08-01 9:42 AM

 

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Birdbrain - 2021-07-31 7:05 PM

 

Real RNLI hero ... https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7489781/Lifeboat-skipper-51-quits-RNLI-grip-political-correctness.html?ito=amp_twitter_share-top ... Like he says if he'd said what he says while an RNLI member he'd be sacked ... Prolly lots that think like him ... A proper full on hero

= RNLI soft on migrants = get the RNLI = here's a handy DM article critical of RNLI = RNLI now discredited, so national treasure becomes fair game = spurious reasoning. But hey - any port in a storm when the target's in play, innit! :-D

 

I'm trying to protect the RNLI ... Selfish chancers who could have claimed asylum in many safe countries before screaming for help in British waters should not be putting our brave RNLI lives at risk ... Try keep it real

 

As someone who spent fourteen years as a DLA I can happily confirm that the brave chaps and chappeses (well those that haven't been harassed out of the station by people with your misogynistic behaviours) won't be putting themselves at risk, if anything given the conditions that the poor unfortunates choose to cross the channel in they probably view it as no more than a gentle training exercise.

 

 

I'm surprised you are not jumping up and down about the RN taxi service in the Mediterranean sea?

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CurtainRaiser - 2021-08-01 10:02 AM

 

Birdbrain - 2021-08-01 9:42 AM

 

Brian Kirby - 2021-08-01 9:04 AM

 

Birdbrain - 2021-07-31 7:05 PM

 

Real RNLI hero ... https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7489781/Lifeboat-skipper-51-quits-RNLI-grip-political-correctness.html?ito=amp_twitter_share-top ... Like he says if he'd said what he says while an RNLI member he'd be sacked ... Prolly lots that think like him ... A proper full on hero

= RNLI soft on migrants = get the RNLI = here's a handy DM article critical of RNLI = RNLI now discredited, so national treasure becomes fair game = spurious reasoning. But hey - any port in a storm when the target's in play, innit! :-D

 

I'm trying to protect the RNLI ... Selfish chancers who could have claimed asylum in many safe countries before screaming for help in British waters should not be putting our brave RNLI lives at risk ... Try keep it real

 

As someone who spent fourteen years as a DLA I can happily confirm that the brave chaps and chappeses (well those that haven't been harassed out of the station by people with your misogynistic behaviours) won't be putting themselves at risk, if anything given the conditions that the poor unfortunates choose to cross the channel in they probably view it as no more than a gentle training exercise.

 

 

I'm surprised you are not jumping up and down about the RN taxi service in the Mediterranean sea?

 

Chuckle ... Hand Solo who admits on here to solo love making acts over pics of me and David goes totally Hollywood ... How can I be misogynistic when I would have laughed over the same thing happening to a fella??? Stop promoting hate princess ... As for the RNLI silliness, crew can be at risk of many things not just fast changing weather conditions ... The Channel is the busiest shipping lane in the world for one thing, accidents on board, drunk male chancers high on drugs and booze celebrating reaching the promised land could also be a problem ... SFH

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Real RNLI hero ... https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7489781/Lifeboat-skipper-51-quits-RNLI-grip-political-correctness.html?ito=amp_twitter_share-top ... Like he says if he'd said what he says while an RNLI member he'd be sacked ... Prolly lots that think like him ... A proper full on hero

= RNLI soft on migrants = get the RNLI = here's a handy DM article critical of RNLI = RNLI now discredited, so national treasure becomes fair game = spurious reasoning. But hey - any port in a storm when the target's in play, innit! :-D

I'm trying to protect the RNLI ... Selfish chancers who could have claimed asylum in many safe countries before screaming for help in British waters should not be putting our brave RNLI lives at risk ... Try keep it real

Protect them from what, exactly? Going to sea in calm conditions, and rescuing people from grossly overloaded inflatables? You may not realise, being from a inland town, but the RNLI regularly exercise in their craft, even when it's rough. If they didn't, they wouldn't be much use, would they? They were doing what they signed up to do. The choice of customer is hardly theirs, is it?

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Birdbrain - 2021-08-01 12:18 PM

 

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Birdbrain - 2021-08-01 9:42 AM

 

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Birdbrain - 2021-07-31 7:05 PM

 

Real RNLI hero ... https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7489781/Lifeboat-skipper-51-quits-RNLI-grip-political-correctness.html?ito=amp_twitter_share-top ... Like he says if he'd said what he says while an RNLI member he'd be sacked ... Prolly lots that think like him ... A proper full on hero

= RNLI soft on migrants = get the RNLI = here's a handy DM article critical of RNLI = RNLI now discredited, so national treasure becomes fair game = spurious reasoning. But hey - any port in a storm when the target's in play, innit! :-D

 

I'm trying to protect the RNLI ... Selfish chancers who could have claimed asylum in many safe countries before screaming for help in British waters should not be putting our brave RNLI lives at risk ... Try keep it real

 

As someone who spent fourteen years as a DLA I can happily confirm that the brave chaps and chappeses (well those that haven't been harassed out of the station by people with your misogynistic behaviours) won't be putting themselves at risk, if anything given the conditions that the poor unfortunates choose to cross the channel in they probably view it as no more than a gentle training exercise.

 

 

I'm surprised you are not jumping up and down about the RN taxi service in the Mediterranean sea?

 

Chuckle ... Hand Solo who admits on here to solo love making acts over pics of me and David goes totally Hollywood ... How can I be misogynistic when I would have laughed over the same thing happening to a fella??? Stop promoting hate princess ... As for the RNLI silliness, crew can be at risk of many things not just fast changing weather conditions ... The Channel is the busiest shipping lane in the world for one thing, accidents on board, drunk male chancers high on drugs and booze celebrating reaching the promised land could also be a problem ... SFH

 

Speaking of funding hate....

 

https://www.gofundme.com/f/buy-a-new-rnli-hovercraft-called-the-flying-farage?fbclid=IwAR3QE_ucmsy0EoJKYMott_BwIdCfu1Y21GTpXty4mMdKYeV5H8gJwVUudsY

 

Keep up the good work

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CurtainRaiser - 2021-08-01 1:27 PM

 

Birdbrain - 2021-08-01 12:18 PM

 

CurtainRaiser - 2021-08-01 10:02 AM

 

Birdbrain - 2021-08-01 9:42 AM

 

Brian Kirby - 2021-08-01 9:04 AM

 

Birdbrain - 2021-07-31 7:05 PM

 

Real RNLI hero ... https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7489781/Lifeboat-skipper-51-quits-RNLI-grip-political-correctness.html?ito=amp_twitter_share-top ... Like he says if he'd said what he says while an RNLI member he'd be sacked ... Prolly lots that think like him ... A proper full on hero

= RNLI soft on migrants = get the RNLI = here's a handy DM article critical of RNLI = RNLI now discredited, so national treasure becomes fair game = spurious reasoning. But hey - any port in a storm when the target's in play, innit! :-D

 

I'm trying to protect the RNLI ... Selfish chancers who could have claimed asylum in many safe countries before screaming for help in British waters should not be putting our brave RNLI lives at risk ... Try keep it real

 

As someone who spent fourteen years as a DLA I can happily confirm that the brave chaps and chappeses (well those that haven't been harassed out of the station by people with your misogynistic behaviours) won't be putting themselves at risk, if anything given the conditions that the poor unfortunates choose to cross the channel in they probably view it as no more than a gentle training exercise.

 

 

I'm surprised you are not jumping up and down about the RN taxi service in the Mediterranean sea?

 

Chuckle ... Hand Solo who admits on here to solo love making acts over pics of me and David goes totally Hollywood ... How can I be misogynistic when I would have laughed over the same thing happening to a fella??? Stop promoting hate princess ... As for the RNLI silliness, crew can be at risk of many things not just fast changing weather conditions ... The Channel is the busiest shipping lane in the world for one thing, accidents on board, drunk male chancers high on drugs and booze celebrating reaching the promised land could also be a problem ... SFH

 

Speaking of funding hate....

 

https://www.gofundme.com/f/buy-a-new-rnli-hovercraft-called-the-flying-farage?fbclid=IwAR3QE_ucmsy0EoJKYMott_BwIdCfu1Y21GTpXty4mMdKYeV5H8gJwVUudsY

 

Keep up the good work

 

LOL! Brilliant. Got to be worth a tenner. (lol)

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Brian Kirby - 2021-08-01 1:07 PM

 

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Birdbrain - 2021-07-31 7:05 PM

Real RNLI hero ... https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7489781/Lifeboat-skipper-51-quits-RNLI-grip-political-correctness.html?ito=amp_twitter_share-top ... Like he says if he'd said what he says while an RNLI member he'd be sacked ... Prolly lots that think like him ... A proper full on hero

= RNLI soft on migrants = get the RNLI = here's a handy DM article critical of RNLI = RNLI now discredited, so national treasure becomes fair game = spurious reasoning. But hey - any port in a storm when the target's in play, innit! :-D

I'm trying to protect the RNLI ... Selfish chancers who could have claimed asylum in many safe countries before screaming for help in British waters should not be putting our brave RNLI lives at risk ... Try keep it real

Protect them from what, exactly? Going to sea in calm conditions, and rescuing people from grossly overloaded inflatables? You may not realise, being from a inland town, but the RNLI regularly exercise in their craft, even when it's rough. If they didn't, they wouldn't be much use, would they? They were doing what they signed up to do. The choice of customer is hardly theirs, is it?

This is a short compilation of various lifeboat rescues in some pretty severe weather conditions. The RNLI never refuse a 'shout' and take to the sea whatever the weather.

 

 

As usual Antonys venom is no other reason than his dislike of migrants who he describes as "drunk male chancers high on drugs and booze", (yet has the gall to accuse other fm's of 'going all Hollywood' *-) ). He won't read either of these articles as neither are conducive to his anti-migrant/refugee narrative, one by Oxford University Faculty of Law, explaining the legal obligation under maritime law to saving lives of people at sea. Farage should read up on this too.

 

There is a duty pursuant to international law for a ship to attempt the rescue of persons at danger at sea. This duty is based on a long-standing and strongly felt moral obligation among seafarers. This is stated, for example, in the United Nations Convention of the Law of the Sea (UNCLOS) Article 98 the International Convention for the Safety of Life at Sea (SOLAS), Regulation V-33. All states recognize this duty.

 

One implication of this rule is that a state cannot legally prohibit its vessels from rescuing persons at sea: states must accept that their vessels engage in rescue operations.

 

It is sometimes suggested that migrant vessels heading from Africa to Europe are so unseaworthy, overloaded and in such bad shape, that they are unlikely to make it to the destination. It is thus suggested that the rules of maritime rescue do not apply. I can see no legal basis for this argument. Most likely, the majority of ships in the need of a rescue have ended up in this situation because they are unseaworthy, and it would be quite harsh that passengers should pay with their lives for not having ensured the seaworthiness of the vessel.

 

Non-assistance to refugees and migrants at sea is not a legal option.

 

https://www.law.ox.ac.uk/research-subject-groups/centre-criminology/centreborder-criminologies/blog/2020/03/duty-rescue

 

Distress at sea doesn't just arise when people are in the water and in danger of drowning, but when a person, the ship itself or a valuable cargo is in imminent danger. So it doesn't have to be bad weather,

 

Distress at sea arises, for example, when a ship is completely overloaded, so that one small wave or movement on board is enough to make it capsize. So with the boats that cross the Mediterranean with migrants and refugees, you almost have to consider them all as cases of distress at sea, because they are mostly not seaworthy, and that means there is a real and present danger.

 

https://www.infomigrants.net/en/post/21314/sea-rescue-what-the-law-says

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Bulletguy - 2021-08-01 4:10 PM

 

This is a short compilation of various lifeboat rescues in some pretty severe weather conditions. The RNLI never refuse a 'shout' and take to the sea whatever the weather.

 

Actually Paul, technically that is not correct.

 

The chain of command is, normally, call from coastguard to the lifeboat station’s Lifeboat Operations Manager (LOM) or Deputy Launch Authority (DLA). If a launch is agreed, the coastguard will then page the crew. That way a detached view of the dangers can be made before any red mist descends.

 

If it is clear that dispatching the crew will put more lives at risk then the LOM / DLA will make the coastguard aware that the RNLI cannot provide a rescue from that station. Determining factors can be both weather conditions and a lack of crew members to fully man the boat - rare but it does happen. The RNLI has different boats at different locations and sometimes the call will be passed to another station with a more suitable boat which maybe further away.

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Bulletguy - 2021-08-01 4:10 PM

 

This is a short compilation of various lifeboat rescues in some pretty severe weather conditions. The RNLI never refuse a 'shout' and take to the sea whatever the weather.

 

Actually Paul, technically that is not correct.

 

The chain of command is, normally, call from coastguard to the lifeboat station’s Lifeboat Operations Manager (LOM) or Deputy Launch Authority (DLA). If a launch is agreed, the coastguard will then page the crew. That way a detached view of the dangers can be made before any red mist descends.

 

If it is clear that dispatching the crew will put more lives at risk then the LOM / DLA will make the coastguard aware that the RNLI cannot provide a rescue from that station. Determining factors can be both weather conditions and a lack of crew members to fully man the boat - rare but it does happen. The RNLI has different boats at different locations and sometimes the call will be passed to another station with a more suitable boat which maybe further away.

Correction appreciated.

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I would have loved to have joined as crew when I Was younger and fitter had I lived near the sea. Boats are in my blood I guess, always have been.

 

Brilliant video Paul. I remember the yacht rescue off Brighton from Saving Lives at Sea. Amazing edge of your seat stuff as the life boat almost came crashing down on the yacht and that crew member hanging onto the bows as cool as a cucumber. (lol)

 

Farage should be utterly ashamed of himself. Except he wont be. People like him never are.

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Barryd999 - 2021-08-01 4:58 PM

 

I would have loved to have joined as crew when I Was younger and fitter had I lived near the sea. Boats are in my blood I guess, always have been.

 

Brilliant video Paul. I remember the yacht rescue off Brighton from Saving Lives at Sea. Amazing edge of your seat stuff as the life boat almost came crashing down on the yacht and that crew member hanging onto the bows as cool as a cucumber. (lol)

 

Farage should be utterly ashamed of himself. Except he wont be. People like him never are.

Remember this? :'(

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tybBesTacsc

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Real RNLI hero ... https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7489781/Lifeboat-skipper-51-quits-RNLI-grip-political-correctness.html?ito=amp_twitter_share-top ... Like he says if he'd said what he says while an RNLI member he'd be sacked ... Prolly lots that think like him ... A proper full on hero

= RNLI soft on migrants = get the RNLI = here's a handy DM article critical of RNLI = RNLI now discredited, so national treasure becomes fair game = spurious reasoning. But hey - any port in a storm when the target's in play, innit! :-D

I'm trying to protect the RNLI ... Selfish chancers who could have claimed asylum in many safe countries before screaming for help in British waters should not be putting our brave RNLI lives at risk ... Try keep it real

Protect them from what, exactly? Going to sea in calm conditions, and rescuing people from grossly overloaded inflatables? You may not realise, being from a inland town, but the RNLI regularly exercise in their craft, even when it's rough. If they didn't, they wouldn't be much use, would they? They were doing what they signed up to do. The choice of customer is hardly theirs, is it?

 

Lordy ... Lifeboat accidents are obviously your speciality, not mine so I had to look up lifeboat accidents and it seems that in just the last 10 years some 60 crew have died with 145 injuries ... Those numbers were just from accidents carrying out the "regular exercise" you know so much about ... You know best

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Lordy ... Lifeboat accidents are obviously your speciality, not mine so I had to look up lifeboat accidents and it seems that in just the last 10 years some 60 crew have died with 145 injuries ... Those numbers were just from accidents carrying out the "regular exercise" you know so much about ... You know best

 

Absolute rubbish, I don't know where you get your statistics from? Must be the Daily Wail.

 

 

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Real RNLI hero ... https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7489781/Lifeboat-skipper-51-quits-RNLI-grip-political-correctness.html?ito=amp_twitter_share-top ... Like he says if he'd said what he says while an RNLI member he'd be sacked ... Prolly lots that think like him ... A proper full on hero

= RNLI soft on migrants = get the RNLI = here's a handy DM article critical of RNLI = RNLI now discredited, so national treasure becomes fair game = spurious reasoning. But hey - any port in a storm when the target's in play, innit! :-D

I'm trying to protect the RNLI ... Selfish chancers who could have claimed asylum in many safe countries before screaming for help in British waters should not be putting our brave RNLI lives at risk ... Try keep it real

Protect them from what, exactly? Going to sea in calm conditions, and rescuing people from grossly overloaded inflatables? You may not realise, being from a inland town, but the RNLI regularly exercise in their craft, even when it's rough. If they didn't, they wouldn't be much use, would they? They were doing what they signed up to do. The choice of customer is hardly theirs, is it?

Lordy ... Lifeboat accidents are obviously your speciality, not mine so I had to look up lifeboat accidents and it seems that in just the last 10 years some 60 crew have died with 145 injuries ... Those numbers were just from accidents carrying out the "regular exercise" you know so much about ... You know best

You raised lifeboat accidents, not me, and I made, nor make, any such claim. Yes, being a lifeboatman is dangerous: I'd have thought that was fairly obvious.

 

But as our resident expert on migrants crossing the Channel, it won't have escaped your notice that the majority arrive on grossly overloaded inflatables. Such grossly overloaded inflatables would not survive even half way across the Channel' on anything more than a slight swell, let alone survive to enter British waters. In fact it is amazing that some (probably the ones we never see or hear of) , even get off the beach in a calm sea.

 

The string was about the disgraceful behaviour of some towards these brave men and women. If you re-read what I wrote, and then engage the little grey cells before replying, you may see that your above reply is 1) nonsense and 2) irrelevant. Over! :-D

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