cej Posted April 11, 2007 Share Posted April 11, 2007 hi, with all the possible problems of theft by stealing one's fuel cap to get a ignition key made, I have made many requests of motor factors to provide me with a locking cap to fit a 2006 fiat ducato, but to no avail!!!! all point me back to FIAT who only sell a cap which requires you to fit your existing barrel !!and utulise the same ey, so no gain there. HALFORDS said they have been selling a lot of fuel caps and are aware of what the crooks are up to!! SO does anyone know where i can get a locking fuel cap to fit a 2006 fiat ducato 2.3td???best regard colin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chas Posted April 12, 2007 Share Posted April 12, 2007 Hi Colin- I was always given to understand that a key cut to suit a fuel cap would not start the engine because it would not contain the transponder or whatever in the original key. Admittingly it may gain access through the cab doors, but lets face it, that can be done by any low life on Fiat/ Pug doors. If still worried, it may be worth finding a decent locksmith shop, and they are thin on the ground, and take your filler cap to see if they could inprovise a new barrel into it with a different key. Regards chas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icelander Posted April 12, 2007 Share Posted April 12, 2007 Good advice chas Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terrytraveller Posted April 12, 2007 Share Posted April 12, 2007 Hi Rob and All, I've just fitted a normal domestic door safety chain to each of the cab doors. When - not if the door is forced again, the chain only allows the door to open around half an inch and the internal sounder, underbonnet and habitation alarms will activate, by virtue of the reed door switches wired to the habitation alarm, and current sensing on the underbonnet alarm. The door chain and bracket is fitted just above the step well and the long elongated slotted bit is attached to the cab door. I will dispense with the Fiamma webbing strap between doors, although the strap brackets are well below the armrests, it can still be seen if looking for such a device, and would encourage a window to be broken so the strap can be cut. Regards Terry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icelander Posted April 12, 2007 Share Posted April 12, 2007 Hi Terry Yes good idea thanks for reminding me Something visible though may still be a deterent perhaps likkle sign INTERNAL DEAD BOLTS FITTED ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wingpete Posted April 12, 2007 Share Posted April 12, 2007 My Fiat ignition key also functions for the fuel cap, even though it is chipped for security. To gain door security, why strap doors to each other with something that is visible from outside, or indeed, inside the van. Surely a better way to "deter" the determined thief is to secure the doors from outside access when you occupy the 'vanis to use locks/bolts or straps that are not obviously visible and fixed to a lower part of the door or at least the floor of the 'van, say around the seat frame or nearby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyishuk Posted April 12, 2007 Share Posted April 12, 2007 cej - 2007-04-11 11:16 PM all point me back to FIAT who only sell a cap which requires you to fit your existing barrel !!and utulise the same key, so no gain there. Are FIAT saying that they will only supply a cap with a barrel that will only fit your key / ignition ? (Assuming that you have lost the cap and the barrel cannot be transfered ? ) BTW do Pug dealers say the same ? Rgds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cej Posted April 12, 2007 Author Share Posted April 12, 2007 no, all fiat,peugeot and citroen dealers will only sell a new cap, minus the barrel, or take the reg no etc and provide a new cap with a barrel to fit the original key, which i am trying to get away from!! i haven't lost the original cap or key, just trying to have a fuel cap on the vehicle, that if stolen by an undesirable, and a key is made to fit the stolen cap, it will not start the engine etc....colin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sax Posted April 12, 2007 Share Posted April 12, 2007 On an earlier thread on this subject I warned that the exceptionally sturdy Fiamma replacement for a Pug (therefore for the other two as well) is not a good investment. It just would not fit however hard I tried. Do not make the same mistake. Night all, Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dancer Posted April 13, 2007 Share Posted April 13, 2007 My Elnagh A Class, on a Ducato Maxi base, has both fuel and water filler caps of the same design, different keys. They seem to be a good fit and secure These caps I have seen available in accessory shops but I can't remember the make. Will look at my locking caps and report back later. Maybe that Elnagh have fitted a different filler neck being an altered body? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyishuk Posted April 14, 2007 Share Posted April 14, 2007 cej - 2007-04-12 11:37 PM no, all fiat,peugeot and citroen dealers will only sell a new cap, minus the barrel, or take the reg no etc and provide a new cap with a barrel to fit the original key, which i am trying to get away from!! i haven't lost the original cap or key, just trying to have a fuel cap on the vehicle, that if stolen by an undesirable, and a key is made to fit the stolen cap, it will not start the engine etc....colin Might be worth writing to the companies pointing out that the reason for asking for a seperate key and cap is for the sake of security, asking if they would change their policy. Or find a motorhome friend willing to swap keys / caps Or accept that most tealeaves know that a flat bladed screwdriver, a hearty thump and twist of the barrel in the door, will force the lock in any case. So why do they go to the bother of stealing the fuel cap ? ( I suppose earlier versions of the key, did not have chips for an imobiliser and this in turn would start the engine). Rgds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul2 Posted April 23, 2007 Share Posted April 23, 2007 Fitted a locking fuel cap to an Iveco Daily 35 s 12 came with two keys and the packageing it list that it also fitted Fiat Ducato and Peugeot Boxer. Iveco part number 2993924 may be worth a look. Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icelander Posted April 23, 2007 Share Posted April 23, 2007 Thanks Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjphillips Posted April 23, 2007 Share Posted April 23, 2007 I was told by the local Fiat workshop manager that any key made to fit the Ducatto filler cap definately would not start the engine because of the chip.Wether he's right or not I dont know but why not discard it for a replacement cap minus the lock & just fit a lock to the flap itself which should be fairly easy. (?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Rock Posted April 24, 2007 Share Posted April 24, 2007 What is a P U G .?????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Kirby Posted April 24, 2007 Share Posted April 24, 2007 The Rock - 2007-04-24 11:38 AM What is a P U G .?????? PUG eot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brambles Posted April 25, 2007 Share Posted April 25, 2007 Suggestion! Why don't two of you who want to do this, both go and get keys and caps made for your own vehicle, then post to each other. Then you have achieved what you want and no one else will know what the real van is your filler cap belongs to. As long as you trist the person you pair up with there is no problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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