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CurtainRaiser - 2021-08-16 6:01 PM

 

The UK Government have rebranded the Festival of Brexit #FOB, to.....

 

Festival UK 2022 aka #FUK2022.

 

Millions spent on PR and branding and they came up with FUK

 

 

Well if you LOSERS dont like living here ;-) ..........

 

No ones making you stay >:-) ........

 

 

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pelmetman - 2021-08-17 7:31 AM

 

CurtainRaiser - 2021-08-16 6:01 PM

 

The UK Government have rebranded the Festival of Brexit #FOB, to.....

 

Festival UK 2022 aka #FUK2022.

 

Millions spent on PR and branding and they came up with FUK

 

 

Well if you LOSERS dont like living here ;-) ..........

 

No ones making you stay >:-) ........

 

 

We're not the ones saying FUK, that's your government literally trolling people like you.

 

So as you lost your "project fear" benefits of long days in Spain with free roaming your Lords and masters have been coining it buying up what's left of British industry through their private equity groups based offshore - the tax that these companies used to pay will be replaced by increases for little people.

 

https://www.ft.com/content/315a02d1-6606-433e-b6f4-1989f2fad27d

 

And with the naming of the festival they are actually spelling it out to you. And you lap it up and ask for more?

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CurtainRaiser - 2021-08-17 9:09 AM

 

pelmetman - 2021-08-17 7:31 AM

 

CurtainRaiser - 2021-08-16 6:01 PM

 

The UK Government have rebranded the Festival of Brexit #FOB, to.....

 

Festival UK 2022 aka #FUK2022.

 

Millions spent on PR and branding and they came up with FUK

 

 

Well if you LOSERS dont like living here ;-) ..........

 

No ones making you stay >:-) ........

 

 

We're not the ones saying FUK, that's your government literally trolling people like you.

 

So as you lost your "project fear" benefits of long days in Spain with free roaming your Lords and masters have been coining it buying up what's left of British industry through their private equity groups based offshore - the tax that these companies used to pay will be replaced by increases for little people.

 

https://www.ft.com/content/315a02d1-6606-433e-b6f4-1989f2fad27d

 

And with the naming of the festival they are actually spelling it out to you. And you lap it up and ask for more?

 

But I haven't lost the ability to spend 6 months in Spain ;-) ..........

 

Coz I can count to a 180 (lol) (lol) (lol) ..........

 

 

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pelmetman - 2021-08-17 9:45 AM

 

CurtainRaiser - 2021-08-17 9:09 AM

 

pelmetman - 2021-08-17 7:31 AM

 

CurtainRaiser - 2021-08-16 6:01 PM

 

The UK Government have rebranded the Festival of Brexit #FOB, to.....

 

Festival UK 2022 aka #FUK2022.

 

Millions spent on PR and branding and they came up with FUK

 

 

Well if you LOSERS dont like living here ;-) ..........

 

No ones making you stay >:-) ........

 

 

We're not the ones saying FUK, that's your government literally trolling people like you.

 

So as you lost your "project fear" benefits of long days in Spain with free roaming your Lords and masters have been coining it buying up what's left of British industry through their private equity groups based offshore - the tax that these companies used to pay will be replaced by increases for little people.

 

https://www.ft.com/content/315a02d1-6606-433e-b6f4-1989f2fad27d

 

And with the naming of the festival they are actually spelling it out to you. And you lap it up and ask for more?

 

But I haven't lost the ability to spend 6 months in Spain ;-) ..........

 

Coz I can count to a 180 (lol) (lol) (lol) ..........

 

 

"90 days in Europe, then come back to blighty for 90, then go back to Europe" - didnt see that on the side of the bus?

 

And besides that's not what you said we would get in the Big Thread is it? It's not what you were expecting or promised?

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CurtainRaiser - 2021-08-17 9:57 AM

 

pelmetman - 2021-08-17 9:45 AM

 

CurtainRaiser - 2021-08-17 9:09 AM

 

pelmetman - 2021-08-17 7:31 AM

 

CurtainRaiser - 2021-08-16 6:01 PM

 

The UK Government have rebranded the Festival of Brexit #FOB, to.....

 

Festival UK 2022 aka #FUK2022.

 

Millions spent on PR and branding and they came up with FUK

 

 

Well if you LOSERS dont like living here ;-) ..........

 

No ones making you stay >:-) ........

 

 

We're not the ones saying FUK, that's your government literally trolling people like you.

 

So as you lost your "project fear" benefits of long days in Spain with free roaming your Lords and masters have been coining it buying up what's left of British industry through their private equity groups based offshore - the tax that these companies used to pay will be replaced by increases for little people.

 

https://www.ft.com/content/315a02d1-6606-433e-b6f4-1989f2fad27d

 

And with the naming of the festival they are actually spelling it out to you. And you lap it up and ask for more?

 

But I haven't lost the ability to spend 6 months in Spain ;-) ..........

 

Coz I can count to a 180 (lol) (lol) (lol) ..........

 

 

"90 days in Europe, then come back to blighty for 90, then go back to Europe" - didnt see that on the side of the bus?

 

And besides that's not what you said we would get in the Big Thread is it? It's not what you were expecting or promised?

 

Obviously you LOSERS aren't bright enough to work out when to start your Schengen clock (lol) (lol) (lol) ..........

 

 

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pelmetman - 2021-08-17 10:32 AM.............................Obviously you LOSERS aren't bright enough to work out when to start your Schengen clock (lol) (lol) (lol) ..........

Dave, it starts on the day you enter Schengen, and ends on the day you leave Schengen. There are no options. You cannot spend 180 consecutive days, which you appear to be saying.

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pelmetman - 2021-08-17 9:45 AM

 

CurtainRaiser - 2021-08-17 9:09 AM

 

pelmetman - 2021-08-17 7:31 AM

 

CurtainRaiser - 2021-08-16 6:01 PM

 

The UK Government have rebranded the Festival of Brexit #FOB, to.....

 

Festival UK 2022 aka #FUK2022.

 

Millions spent on PR and branding and they came up with FUK

 

 

Well if you LOSERS dont like living here ;-) ..........

 

No ones making you stay >:-) ........

 

 

We're not the ones saying FUK, that's your government literally trolling people like you.

 

So as you lost your "project fear" benefits of long days in Spain with free roaming your Lords and masters have been coining it buying up what's left of British industry through their private equity groups based offshore - the tax that these companies used to pay will be replaced by increases for little people.

 

https://www.ft.com/content/315a02d1-6606-433e-b6f4-1989f2fad27d

 

And with the naming of the festival they are actually spelling it out to you. And you lap it up and ask for more?

 

But I haven't lost the ability to spend 6 months in Spain ;-) ..........

 

Coz I can count to a 180 (lol) (lol) (lol) ..........

Yeah thats right. Leave at beginning of October and stay in Spain until end of March.

 

Just make sure you stay there the full 6 month.

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Brian Kirby - 2021-08-17 11:33 AM

 

pelmetman - 2021-08-17 10:32 AM.............................Obviously you LOSERS aren't bright enough to work out when to start your Schengen clock (lol) (lol) (lol) ..........

Dave, it starts on the day you enter Schengen, and ends on the day you leave Schengen. There are no options. You cannot spend 180 consecutive days, which you appear to be saying.

He thinks he has exemptions.......best to let him find out the hard way. ;-)

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Brian Kirby - 2021-08-17 11:33 AM

 

pelmetman - 2021-08-17 10:32 AM.............................Obviously you LOSERS aren't bright enough to work out when to start your Schengen clock (lol) (lol) (lol) ..........

Dave, it starts on the day you enter Schengen, and ends on the day you leave Schengen. There are no options. You cannot spend 180 consecutive days, which you appear to be saying.

 

Blimey you LOSERS are hardwork *-) ........

 

So you start your schengen clock in July by having a few days in Frogland or some other Schengen country ;-) .........

 

Then head too Spain for the winter in Late September/October, count 180 days from when you went to Frogland, then fly back home for a few days to reset the clock and then you can return too Spain for 90 days :-> ........

 

It's not rocket science (lol) (lol) (lol) .........

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pelmetman - 2021-08-17 10:32 AM.............................Obviously you LOSERS aren't bright enough to work out when to start your Schengen clock (lol) (lol) (lol) ..........

Dave, it starts on the day you enter Schengen, and ends on the day you leave Schengen. There are no options. You cannot spend 180 consecutive days, which you appear to be saying.

 

Blimey you LOSERS are hardwork *-) ........

 

So you start your schengen clock in July by having a few days in Frogland or some other Schengen country ;-) .........

 

Then head too Spain for the winter in Late September/October, count 180 days from when you went to Frogland, then fly back home for a few days to reset the clock and then you can return too Spain for 90 days :-> ........

 

It's not rocket science (lol) (lol) (lol) .........

 

 

Absolutely with you there Dave .

 

It's NOT rocket science.

 

It's putting two fingers up to the EU !

 

It's making your OWN decisions about where you go !

 

It's making your OWN decisions about when you go !

 

.... and deciding for YOURSELF how long you stay !

 

ALL OF WHICH ANY BRIT. CAN DO - !!!

 

( as long as your decisions fit in with EU rules ).

 

 

;-)

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pelmetman - 2021-08-17 10:32 AM.............................Obviously you LOSERS aren't bright enough to work out when to start your Schengen clock (lol) (lol) (lol) ..........

Dave, it starts on the day you enter Schengen, and ends on the day you leave Schengen. There are no options. You cannot spend 180 consecutive days, which you appear to be saying.

 

Blimey you LOSERS are hardwork *-) ........

 

So you start your schengen clock in July by having a few days in Frogland or some other Schengen country ;-) .........

 

Then head too Spain for the winter in Late September/October, count 180 days from when you went to Frogland, then fly back home for a few days to reset the clock and then you can return too Spain for 90 days :-> ........

 

It's not rocket science (lol) (lol) (lol) .........

 

 

Absolutely with you there Dave .

 

It's NOT rocket science.

 

It's putting two fingers up to the EU !

 

It's making your OWN decisions about where you go !

 

It's making your OWN decisions about when you go !

 

.... and deciding for YOURSELF how long you stay !

 

ALL OF WHICH ANY BRIT. CAN DO - !!!

 

( as long as your decisions fit in with EU rules ).

 

 

;-)

He's had the 90/180 explained to him countless times but you know how he is....he knows better than any and has his own set of "rules" which he makes up as he goes along.

 

Sooner he gets kicked out of Spain as an illegal and a marker on his passport, the better. That's the only way he will learn.

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pelmetman - 2021-08-17 10:32 AM.............................Obviously you LOSERS aren't bright enough to work out when to start your Schengen clock (lol) (lol) (lol) ..........

Dave, it starts on the day you enter Schengen, and ends on the day you leave Schengen. There are no options. You cannot spend 180 consecutive days, which you appear to be saying.

 

Blimey you LOSERS are hardwork *-) ........

 

So you start your schengen clock in July by having a few days in Frogland or some other Schengen country ;-) .........

 

Then head too Spain for the winter in Late September/October, count 180 days from when you went to Frogland, then fly back home for a few days to reset the clock and then you can return too Spain for 90 days :-> ........

 

It's not rocket science (lol) (lol) (lol) .........

 

 

Absolutely with you there Dave .

 

It's NOT rocket science.

 

It's putting two fingers up to the EU !

 

It's making your OWN decisions about where you go !

 

It's making your OWN decisions about when you go !

 

.... and deciding for YOURSELF how long you stay !

 

ALL OF WHICH ANY BRIT. CAN DO - !!!

 

( as long as your decisions fit in with EU rules ).

 

 

;-)

He's had the 90/180 explained to him countless times but you know how he is....he knows better than any and has his own set of "rules" which he makes up as he goes along.

 

 

 

My point is that he may well be able to work out some convoluted plan of going - moving / flying home / going back etc which may GET ROUND the RULES.

 

What he clearly doesn't / can't understand is that whatever he plans he will have to FIT IN WITH EU RULES - he still thinks he's " getting one over " on the EU.

 

:-(

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pelmetman - 2021-08-17 3:23 PM.................................Blimey you LOSERS are hardwork *-) ........

 

So you start your schengen clock in July by having a few days in Frogland or some other Schengen country ;-) .........

 

Then head too Spain for the winter in Late September/October, count 180 days from when you went to Frogland, then fly back home for a few days to reset the clock and then you can return too Spain for 90 days :-> ........

 

It's not rocket science (lol) (lol) (lol) .........

Have you tested that theory using the Schengen calculator: https://tinyurl.com/4v9mhey ?

 

You haven't given actual dates or durations, but from what you say, it doesn't sound feasible. To "re-set" your Schengen clock, you have to leave Schengen for at least 90 days.

 

Every day spent in Schengen within the preceding 180 days is counted, but the 180 days retrospective period moves forward day by day, so that days in Schengen 190+ days earlier progressively fall out of "sight".

 

If you had spent less than 90 days in Schengen the first time, you can use up the balance on a second trip and, if the second trip is timed so that the balance is fully used to coincide with the 180 days retrospective limit beginning to lose "sight" of the first trip, you do not need to leave and re-enter, but you can still only spend a maximum of 90 days in Schengen within the preceding 180days.

 

The number of days in Schengen is counted daily, so if on any given day you have spent more than 90 days in Schengen (whether consecutive or not, including all the arrival and departure days) within the preceding 180 consecutive days, you are in the poo!

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Brian Kirby - 2021-08-17 6:24 PM

 

pelmetman - 2021-08-17 3:23 PM.................................Blimey you LOSERS are hardwork *-) ........

 

So you start your schengen clock in July by having a few days in Frogland or some other Schengen country ;-) .........

 

Then head too Spain for the winter in Late September/October, count 180 days from when you went to Frogland, then fly back home for a few days to reset the clock and then you can return too Spain for 90 days :-> ........

 

It's not rocket science (lol) (lol) (lol) .........

Have you tested that theory using the Schengen calculator: https://tinyurl.com/4v9mhey ?

 

You haven't given actual dates or durations, but from what you say, it doesn't sound feasible. To "re-set" your Schengen clock, you have to leave Schengen for at least 90 days.

 

Every day spent in Schengen within the preceding 180 days is counted, but the 180 days retrospective period moves forward day by day, so that days in Schengen 190+ days earlier progressively fall out of "sight".

 

If you had spent less than 90 days in Schengen the first time, you can use up the balance on a second trip and, if the second trip is timed so that the balance is fully used to coincide with the 180 days retrospective limit beginning to lose "sight" of the first trip, you do not need to leave and re-enter, but you can still only spend a maximum of 90 days in Schengen within the preceding 180days.

 

The number of days in Schengen is counted daily, so if on any given day you have spent more than 90 days in Schengen (whether consecutive or not, including all the arrival and departure days) within the preceding 180 consecutive days, you are in the poo!

 

Like I said ;-) ..........I can count to a 180 :D .........

 

 

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Brian Kirby - 2021-08-17 11:33 AM

 

pelmetman - 2021-08-17 10:32 AM.............................Obviously you LOSERS aren't bright enough to work out when to start your Schengen clock (lol) (lol) (lol) ..........

Dave, it starts on the day you enter Schengen, and ends on the day you leave Schengen. There are no options. You cannot spend 180 consecutive days, which you appear to be saying.

 

Blimey you LOSERS are hardwork *-) ........

 

So you start your schengen clock in July by having a few days in Frogland or some other Schengen country ;-) .........

 

Then head too Spain for the winter in Late September/October, count 180 days from when you went to Frogland, then fly back home for a few days to reset the clock and then you can return too Spain for 90 days :-> ........

 

It's not rocket science (lol) (lol) (lol) .........

 

 

Absolutely with you there Dave .

 

It's NOT rocket science.

 

It's putting two fingers up to the EU !

 

It's making your OWN decisions about where you go !

 

It's making your OWN decisions about when you go !

 

.... and deciding for YOURSELF how long you stay !

 

ALL OF WHICH ANY BRIT. CAN DO - !!!

 

( as long as your decisions fit in with EU rules ).

 

 

;-)

He's had the 90/180 explained to him countless times but you know how he is....he knows better than any and has his own set of "rules" which he makes up as he goes along.

 

 

 

My point is that he may well be able to work out some convoluted plan of going - moving / flying home / going back etc which may GET ROUND the RULES.

 

What he clearly doesn't / can't understand is that whatever he plans he will have to FIT IN WITH EU RULES - he still thinks he's " getting one over " on the EU.

 

:-(

 

Hmmm .........Following the rules is now called "getting one over" 8-) ..........

 

Looks like I'll be getting one over then :D .........

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pelmetman - 2021-08-17 3:23 PM.................................Blimey you LOSERS are hardwork *-) ........

So you start your schengen clock in July by having a few days in Frogland or some other Schengen country ;-) .........

Then head too Spain for the winter in Late September/October, count 180 days from when you went to Frogland, then fly back home for a few days to reset the clock and then you can return too Spain for 90 days :-> ........

It's not rocket science (lol) (lol) (lol) .........

Have you tested that theory using the Schengen calculator: https://tinyurl.com/4v9mhey ?

You haven't given actual dates or durations, but from what you say, it doesn't sound feasible. To "re-set" your Schengen clock, you have to leave Schengen for at least 90 days.

Every day spent in Schengen within the preceding 180 days is counted, but the 180 days retrospective period moves forward day by day, so that days in Schengen 180+ days earlier progressively fall out of "sight".

If you had spent less than 90 days in Schengen the first time, you can use up the balance on a second trip and, if the second trip is timed so that the balance is fully used to coincide with the 180 days retrospective limit beginning to lose "sight" of the first trip, you do not need to leave and re-enter, but you can still only spend a maximum of 90 days in Schengen within the preceding 180days.

The number of days in Schengen is counted daily, so if on any given day you have spent more than 90 days in Schengen (whether consecutive or not, including all the arrival and departure days) within the preceding 180 consecutive days, you are in the poo!

Like I said ;-) ..........I can count to a 180 :D .........

Typo above corrected (in bold) for accuracy.

 

I'm sticking with this because many people read the forums without contributing, and also travel in Europe, so to avoid them being misled by your posts above, I've tried to replicate what you seem to be saying.

 

You say above "So you start your schengen clock in July by having a few days in Frogland or some other Schengen country ;-) ......... Then head too Spain for the winter in Late September/October, count 180 days from when you went to Frogland, then fly back home for a few days to reset the clock and then you can return too Spain for 90 days", which is less than clear, but, doing my best to follow what I think you may mean, I have replicated your travel proposals using the Schengen calculator (from the official Europa website here: https://ec.europa.eu/home-affairs/content/visa-calculator_en ) to check the results.

 

I first set the "Date of entry/Control" in the calculator to 21/08/22, so that it is later than any proposed return date. (If this is not done, the calculator thinks you are trying to check dates before you have returned.)

 

For your July trip I used an entry date of 1/7/21 and exit date of 7/7/21, giving 7 days in Schengen. (you can only enter dates in the calculator in the format 010721 (for 1 July 2021) which, when you press "Enter" on your device, will appear as 01/7/21)

 

For your second trip I used an entry date of 30/09/21 and an exit date of 21/12/21, giving a further 83 days in Schengen. (83 plus the above 7 = 90 days, so OK. This is conformed by the calculator, which says:

"Start of 90 days period: 24/05/22. Start of 180 days period: 23/02/22. The stay may be authorised for up to: 90 day(s)"

 

For your flying return trip I used the above exit date of 21/12/21 with return into Schengen on 03/01/22 (the entry date for your third period in Schengen), for a stay of 89 days (so just less than 90 days), exiting on 01/04/22. Not allowed! This is confirmed by the calculator, which now says:

"[red]Days of stay in the 180-days period from 04/10/21 to 01/04/22: 168 day(s). Overstay in the period from 10/01/22 to 01/04/22 (82 days)[/red]"

 

As you can see, the calculation looks back 180 days when you enter, and again when you leave. So 83 days of your second (89 day) trip still fall within the 180 days preceding you third exit on 01/04/22. The maximum number of days you could stay from 03/01/22 without overstaying, is 7 - until 09/01/22.

 

As I said above, the "180 period" looks back 180 days on any given day that you are in Schengen, and if you have spent more than 90 days in Schengen in that 180 days period, you have over-stayed. No ifs, no buts.

 

So, I suggest you follow the above link, and use the calculator (which is what the border guards will be using), and check your dates very carefully. There is also a downloadable manual for the calculator that you may also find helpful.

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Brian Kirby - 2021-08-21 9:42 AM

 

As I said above, the "180 period" looks back 180 days on any given day that you are in Schengen, and if you have spent more than 90 days in Schengen in that 180 days period, you have over-stayed. No ifs, no buts.

 

 

So that's 90 days in a 180 ;-) ............Just as I thought :D ........

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As I said above, the "180 period" looks back 180 days on any given day that you are in Schengen, and if you have spent more than 90 days in Schengen in that 180 days period, you have over-stayed. No ifs, no buts.

 

 

So that's 90 days in a 180 ;-) ............Just as I thought :D ........

 

When you're dead you don't know you're dead, all of the pain is felt by others.

 

The same thing happens when you're stupid.

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As I said above, the "180 period" looks back 180 days on any given day that you are in Schengen, and if you have spent more than 90 days in Schengen in that 180 days period, you have over-stayed. No ifs, no buts.

 

 

So that's 90 days in a 180 ;-) ............Just as I thought :D ........

 

When you're dead you don't know you're dead, all of the pain is felt by others.

 

The same thing happens when you're stupid.

The reason Pelmet is unable to counter any of Brians points is because he doesn't understand what Brian has explained to him many times in fine detail, and also because he thinks ignorance will be enough to allow him to overstay as he always used to.

 

The only way for Pelmet and other clowns trying to circumvent the 90 day rule is to learn the hard way and get themselves kicked out as an illegal, quite possibly fined, but certainly their passports will carry a marker. They voted to end freedom of movement, now they have to abide by it.

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As I said above, the "180 period" looks back 180 days on any given day that you are in Schengen, and if you have spent more than 90 days in Schengen in that 180 days period, you have over-stayed. No ifs, no buts.

So that's 90 days in a 180 ;-) ............Just as I thought :D ........

Not from what you wrote on 17 August, it isn't! From that post you seem to be suggesting you can:

1 "start your schengen clock in July by having a few days in Frogland or some other Schengen country ......... "

2 "Then head too Spain for the winter in Late September/October, count 180 days from when you went to Frogland,"

3 "then fly back home for a few days to reset the clock and"

4 "then you can return too Spain for 90 days"

 

1 Yes you can, but I see no advantage in doing so.

2 Yes you can, providing you do not stay longer than 90-7 (the July trip) days.

3 Yes you can, but as in 1 I can see no advantage to doing so. To reset the Schengen clock you have to leave and then stay out of, Schengen before re-entering - whether you fly, walk, or swim - for 90 days.

4 No you can't, because the days spent in Schengen in 2 above (being within 180 days of when you return (unless you stay out for 90 days), count against your 90 days in 180 days allowance, which it seems you will by then, for all intents and purposes, have consumed.

 

As I said above, the limit is is 90 days in the previous180 days. Plus, there is no reset of the Schengen days at the end of year, as you seem to assume.

 

So if, as I suggested above, you and Mrs P were to have entered France (i.e. Schengen) on 1 July 2021, the border guards would have looked back to 2 January 2021 (which is 180 days earlier) to see how much time you had spent in Schengen during that period. Answer, 0.

 

Then, when you both left Schengen (as above) on 7 July 20121, the border guards would look back to 8 January 2012 (180 days earlier) and would have seen you had both spent 7 days in Schengen.

 

Next, when you both re-enter Schengen (as above) on 30/9/21, the border guards will look back to 30/4/21 (180 days earlier) and will still see the 7 days you both spent in Schengen in July.

 

If you both then leave Schengen on 21/12/21 the border guards will look back to 24/6/21 (180 days earlier) and will still see the 7 days you both spent in Schengen in July, plus the 83 days you have just spent in Schengen between 30/9/21 and 21/12/21 (7+83 =90 days in total) and will not bother you further.

 

However, when you both seek to re-enter Schengen on 3/1/22 the border guards will look back to 7/7/21 (180 days earlier) and will see 1 day you both spent in Schengen on 7 July, plus the 83 days you both spent in Schengen between 30/9/21 and 21/12/21 (84 days total). Then, they may do one of three things. A) Allow you in without comment. B) Caution you that you have only 6 days permissible in Schengen, but still allow you in. C) Ask to see the date of your return ticket and, when they see 1/4/22, block your entry as you intend overstaying.

 

If option A) is the case you will continue on your way, but when you come to leave on 1/4/22 the border guards will look back to 3/10/21 (180 days earlier) and will see the 90 days you have both just spent in Schengen, plus the 78 days spent in Schengen between 3/10/21 and 21/12/21 and you will be fined for overstaying by 82 days, and possibly embargoed from visiting Schengen in future.

 

If option B) is the case, and you change your return tickets to leave at the end of 6 days, and then do so, you will be allowed to exit without challenge. If you ignore the warning and carry on regardless until 1/4/22 the result will be as for option A) but as you were warned the penalties would probably be more severe.

 

If Option C) is the case nothing further will happen as you won't have entered and will be back in UK.

 

It is all in my post of 8:06am today, which you have so casually dismissed on the basis that you can count to 180. Well, so can I, and I can also do so going backwards, which at present you haven't realised - despite numerous prompting - you have to do.

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What Consequences Will Britons (including Pelmet) Face for Overstaying in EU?

 

The consequences that a British national may face for staying in the EU longer than permitted depend a lot on the country where he/she is caught overstaying, as well as the number of days overstayed.

 

Deportation – All third-country citizens caught overstaying the number of permitted days of stay in the EU are immediately forced to leave the block. Some of the countries will imprison overstayers and deport them by themselves, while others will give overstayers a certain period of hours or days to leave.

 

Fines – One of the most common penalties for overstaying in the Schengen Area is being fined with an amount of money, though the fees vary from one country to another. Fines, are applied alongside with deportation and are not a substitute for it. They may often be followed with an entry ban too.

 

Difficulties in returning to the Schengen – Almost every deported person will face difficulties to travel back to the Schengen Area. They will face prolonged border checks upon entry, and may even be turned back or banned from entering for a certain period.

 

Entry ban – Usually the Member States ban from entering only those who have overstayed for a longer period. Bans are applied for a period of three years or even more.

 

https://www.schengenvisainfo.com/news/brits-overstaying-eus-90-180-days-rule-to-face-penalties/

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