CurtainRaiser Posted August 20, 2021 Share Posted August 20, 2021 This is going to come more to the fore as COP approaches. https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/news/a-lie-thunberg-rubbishes-claims-that-uk-is-a-climate-leader-as-she-shares-sobering-tweet-from-3-years-ago-286816/?utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook&utm_campaign=bf&fbclid=IwAR3LQoJfh0T5fjUnyL0_8bvYCoSZcQE7zMtYSlbuI2_X-I8S95xR-hmhEAo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurtainRaiser Posted August 20, 2021 Author Share Posted August 20, 2021 Seems to be a bit of a lying pandemic in the Cabinet The “new hospital” he refers to here was not a new hospital at all, but a building erected at an existing hospital in Carlisle, which was bought with PFI debt. It was built by private foreign investment, and will be rented to the NHS for fifty years at a high cost. All 48 “hospitals” Javid refers to are similar projects. One was just a new entrance building. Another new building coincided with the downgrading of two hospitals in the local area, which resulted in fewer beds in the area. The Carlisle cancer centre was planned *long before* Johnson made his 2019 pledge to build 40 “new” hospitals. So far, not a single actual new hospital has been built by this government. Not sure how they expect to build forty in three years before their term is up (the answer is the absolutely don’t expect to). This whole policy is a scam. Yet the health Secretary feels completely comfortable tweeting out this enormous lie to the public - because he knows he won’t be challenged on it by the corrupt British media. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John52 Posted August 20, 2021 Share Posted August 20, 2021 Would be more newsworthy to start a thread when Boris is caught telling the truth :-S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletguy Posted August 20, 2021 Share Posted August 20, 2021 CurtainRaiser - 2021-08-20 11:46 AM Seems to be a bit of a lying pandemic in the Cabinet The “new hospital” he refers to here was not a new hospital at all, but a building erected at an existing hospital in Carlisle, which was bought with PFI debt. It was built by private foreign investment, and will be rented to the NHS for fifty years at a high cost. All 48 “hospitals” Javid refers to are similar projects. One was just a new entrance building. Another new building coincided with the downgrading of two hospitals in the local area, which resulted in fewer beds in the area. The Carlisle cancer centre was planned *long before* Johnson made his 2019 pledge to build 40 “new” hospitals. So far, not a single actual new hospital has been built by this government. Not sure how they expect to build forty in three years before their term is up (the answer is the absolutely don’t expect to). This whole policy is a scam. Yet the health Secretary feels completely comfortable tweeting out this enormous lie to the public - because he knows he won’t be challenged on it by the corrupt British media. Of course it's a scam and massive LIE.....Johnsons adherents thrive on being fed LIES and think others are daft enough to fall for their LIES. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletguy Posted August 20, 2021 Share Posted August 20, 2021 John52 - 2021-08-20 12:36 PM Would be more newsworthy to start a thread when Boris is caught telling the truth :-S That would make a "Breaking News" report! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted August 20, 2021 Share Posted August 20, 2021 John52 - 2021-08-20 12:36 PM Would be more newsworthy to start a thread when Boris is caught telling the truth :-S So Lefties dont lie? :D .......... https://labourheartlands.com/baloolabour-starmer-lies-like-a-tory-too/ (lol) (lol) (lol) .......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Kirby Posted August 20, 2021 Share Posted August 20, 2021 pelmetman - 2021-08-20 2:59 PM John52 - 2021-08-20 12:36 PM Would be more newsworthy to start a thread when Boris is caught telling the truth :-S So Lefties dont lie? :D .......... https://labourheartlands.com/baloolabour-starmer-lies-like-a-tory-too/ (lol) (lol) (lol) .......... The article is inaccurate in that it conflates remaining in the EMA post Brexit with the ability of the UK to develop a Covid vaccine as it did. There is something very sad about repeatedly having to tell the same person, the same thing, and finding yet again that it has gone into one ear and out of the other. The EMA is the medicines approval agency on behalf of the EU member states. It gives a "seal of approval" for medicines produced within EU states and around the world. If a medicine has been approved by the EMA, it means it can be sold into, and prescribed within, any other EU state. But, if a member state (as the UK effectively was while in transition - when it developed and began using the Oxford Astra-Zeneca vaccine) develops a medicine for internal use only, subject to its own approvals authority, it is free to do so. It is only if it wishes to sell that medicine to other EU states that it requires EMA approval. Despite the UK not having maintained membership of the EMA, the A-Z Covishield vaccine is approved by the EMA for emergency use and so is authorised for use in Austria, Belgium, Bulgaria, Croatia, Cyprus, Czech Republic, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Hungary, Iceland, Ireland, Italy, Latvia, Liechtenstein, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Malta, Netherlands, Norway, Poland, Portugal, Romania, Slovakia, Slovenia, and Spain. I don't understand why you find this so difficult to grasp. It is quite straightforward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John52 Posted August 20, 2021 Share Posted August 20, 2021 Someone on LBC today said Boris Johnson's pants have their own fire brigade Think about it (lol) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John52 Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 'Johnson’s endless, shameless promises have made him the leading British practitioner of this kind of political magic realism – which works, like populism in general, for as long as a decisive number of voters believe in it. ' https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/aug/20/boris-johnson-tories-reality-labour-politics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birdbrain Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 John52 - 2021-08-21 7:07 AM 'Johnson’s endless, shameless promises have made him the leading British practitioner of this kind of political magic realism – which works, like populism in general, for as long as a decisive number of voters believe in it. ' https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/aug/20/boris-johnson-tories-reality-labour-politics Bit like those populist SNP types and their "kind of political magic realism" you've fallen for then ... Lets not mention their somehow different nasty nationalism obsession you lurve n'all ... Hypocrisy lives Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 Brian Kirby - 2021-08-20 6:21 PM pelmetman - 2021-08-20 2:59 PM John52 - 2021-08-20 12:36 PM Would be more newsworthy to start a thread when Boris is caught telling the truth :-S So Lefties dont lie? :D .......... https://labourheartlands.com/baloolabour-starmer-lies-like-a-tory-too/ (lol) (lol) (lol) .......... The article is inaccurate in that it conflates remaining in the EMA post Brexit with the ability of the UK to develop a Covid vaccine as it did. There is something very sad about repeatedly having to tell the same person, the same thing, and finding yet again that it has gone into one ear and out of the other. The EMA is the medicines approval agency on behalf of the EU member states. It gives a "seal of approval" for medicines produced within EU states and around the world. If a medicine has been approved by the EMA, it means it can be sold into, and prescribed within, any other EU state. But, if a member state (as the UK effectively was while in transition - when it developed and began using the Oxford Astra-Zeneca vaccine) develops a medicine for internal use only, subject to its own approvals authority, it is free to do so. It is only if it wishes to sell that medicine to other EU states that it requires EMA approval. Despite the UK not having maintained membership of the EMA, the A-Z Covishield vaccine is approved by the EMA for emergency use and so is authorised for use in Austria, Belgium, Bulgaria, Croatia, Cyprus, Czech Republic, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Hungary, Iceland, Ireland, Italy, Latvia, Liechtenstein, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Malta, Netherlands, Norway, Poland, Portugal, Romania, Slovakia, Slovenia, and Spain. I don't understand why you find this so difficult to grasp. It is quite straightforward. I don't understand why you LOSERS are prepared to accept Snakey Starmer LYING to Parliament ;-) ..... Actually I'm lying :D ........... I do (lol) (lol) (lol) ........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 John52 - 2021-08-21 7:07 AM 'Sturgeon’s endless, shameless promises have made her the leading Scottish practitioner of this kind of political magic realism – which works, like populism in general, for as long as a decisive number of voters believe in it. ' :D ......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletguy Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 Brian Kirby - 2021-08-20 6:21 PM pelmetman - 2021-08-20 2:59 PM John52 - 2021-08-20 12:36 PM Would be more newsworthy to start a thread when Boris is caught telling the truth :-S So Lefties dont lie? :D .......... https://labourheartlands.com/baloolabour-starmer-lies-like-a-tory-too/ (lol) (lol) (lol) .......... The article is inaccurate in that it conflates remaining in the EMA post Brexit with the ability of the UK to develop a Covid vaccine as it did. There is something very sad about repeatedly having to tell the same person, the same thing, and finding yet again that it has gone into one ear and out of the other. You were right......his reply shows what an airhead he is. :-| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletguy Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 John52 - 2021-08-21 7:07 AM 'Johnson’s endless, shameless promises have made him the leading British practitioner of this kind of political magic realism – which works, like populism in general, for as long as a decisive number of voters believe in it. ' https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/aug/20/boris-johnson-tories-reality-labour-politics John, it's always best to snip and paste from the original article then upload as a file. It stops clowns like Pelmet editing out uncomfortable truths. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 pelmetman - 2021-08-21 9:35 AM John52 - 2021-08-21 7:07 AM 'Sturgeon’s endless, shameless promises have made her the leading Scottish practitioner of this kind of political magic realism – which works, like populism in general, for as long as a decisive number of voters believe in it. ' :D ......... :D ......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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