John52 Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 Investors have pulled $9.4bn out of UK-focused equity funds this year after hopes that a Covid-19 vaccination drive will fuel a vigorous economic recovery were overshadowed by questions about slow growth and high inflation. The net withdrawals mean that funds invested in UK stocks are now heading for a sixth consecutive year of outflows, according to EPFR data. The UK will recover more slowly from the shocks of coronavirus than other G7 nations, the IMF has forecast, with economic output in 2024 still 3 per cent below its pre-pandemic levels. “Supply issues, already acute from Covid, are being further compounded by Brexit,” a team of Barclays analysts led by Emmanuel Cau wrote in a note to clients. https://www.ft.com/content/e7488b69-db24-4053-bae3-db5930b1fe8f meanwhile the Brexit proof S&P500 hit another record high today :-S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 John52 - 2021-10-25 11:20 PM Investors have pulled $9.4bn out of UK-focused equity funds this year after hopes that a Covid-19 vaccination drive will fuel a vigorous economic recovery were overshadowed by questions about slow growth and high inflation. The net withdrawals mean that funds invested in UK stocks are now heading for a sixth consecutive year of outflows, according to EPFR data. The UK will recover more slowly from the shocks of coronavirus than other G7 nations, the IMF has forecast, with economic output in 2024 still 3 per cent below its pre-pandemic levels. “Supply issues, already acute from Covid, are being further compounded by Brexit,” a team of Barclays analysts led by Emmanuel Cau wrote in a note to clients. https://www.ft.com/content/e7488b69-db24-4053-bae3-db5930b1fe8f meanwhile the Brexit proof S&P500 hit another record high today :-S Has it earn't as much as my house has? :D ......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John52 Posted October 26, 2021 Author Share Posted October 26, 2021 pelmetman - 2021-10-26 9:13 AM John52 - 2021-10-25 11:20 PM Investors have pulled $9.4bn out of UK-focused equity funds this year after hopes that a Covid-19 vaccination drive will fuel a vigorous economic recovery were overshadowed by questions about slow growth and high inflation. The net withdrawals mean that funds invested in UK stocks are now heading for a sixth consecutive year of outflows, according to EPFR data. The UK will recover more slowly from the shocks of coronavirus than other G7 nations, the IMF has forecast, with economic output in 2024 still 3 per cent below its pre-pandemic levels. “Supply issues, already acute from Covid, are being further compounded by Brexit,” a team of Barclays analysts led by Emmanuel Cau wrote in a note to clients. https://www.ft.com/content/e7488b69-db24-4053-bae3-db5930b1fe8f meanwhile the Brexit proof S&P500 hit another record high today :-S Has it earn't as much as my house has? :D ......... Has your house increased in value (against the Brexit crash £) 6 fold in the last ten years ? https://www.google.com/finance/quote/CSP1:LON?window=MAX Beside the point anyway - I'm comparing US shares with UK shares Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletguy Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 John52 - 2021-10-26 10:38 AM pelmetman - 2021-10-26 9:13 AM John52 - 2021-10-25 11:20 PM Investors have pulled $9.4bn out of UK-focused equity funds this year after hopes that a Covid-19 vaccination drive will fuel a vigorous economic recovery were overshadowed by questions about slow growth and high inflation. The net withdrawals mean that funds invested in UK stocks are now heading for a sixth consecutive year of outflows, according to EPFR data. The UK will recover more slowly from the shocks of coronavirus than other G7 nations, the IMF has forecast, with economic output in 2024 still 3 per cent below its pre-pandemic levels. “Supply issues, already acute from Covid, are being further compounded by Brexit,” a team of Barclays analysts led by Emmanuel Cau wrote in a note to clients. https://www.ft.com/content/e7488b69-db24-4053-bae3-db5930b1fe8f meanwhile the Brexit proof S&P500 hit another record high today :-S Has it earn't as much as my house has? :D ......... Has your house increased in value (against the Brexit crash £) 6 fold in the last ten years ? https://www.google.com/finance/quote/CSP1:LON?window=MAX Beside the point anyway - I'm comparing US shares with UK shares :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John52 Posted October 27, 2021 Author Share Posted October 27, 2021 pelmetman - 2021-10-26 9:13 AM John52 - 2021-10-25 11:20 PM Investors have pulled $9.4bn out of UK-focused equity funds this year after hopes that a Covid-19 vaccination drive will fuel a vigorous economic recovery were overshadowed by questions about slow growth and high inflation. The net withdrawals mean that funds invested in UK stocks are now heading for a sixth consecutive year of outflows, according to EPFR data. The UK will recover more slowly from the shocks of coronavirus than other G7 nations, the IMF has forecast, with economic output in 2024 still 3 per cent below its pre-pandemic levels. “Supply issues, already acute from Covid, are being further compounded by Brexit,” a team of Barclays analysts led by Emmanuel Cau wrote in a note to clients. https://www.ft.com/content/e7488b69-db24-4053-bae3-db5930b1fe8f meanwhile the Brexit proof S&P500 hit another record high today :-S Has it earn't as much as my house has? :D ......... So thats a no then - its earned more. A lot more. Which wouldn't be difficult anyway because your house hasn't EARNT anything like shares in productive industry overseas have No new wealth has been created by house price inflation. Just the same old assets increased in price - because a shortage has been created by restricting the supply and stoking up demand with taxpayer funded subsidies like the so called 'Help to Buy' Who needs trade and industry when we can just keep pumping house prices up with printed and borrowed money *-) Just that the price of the same house has increased due to Government intervention in the housing market - which you pay for in the form of taxpayer funded subsidies like Housing Benefit. and taxpayer funded cheap mortgages All house price inflation does is transfer wealth from the poor to the rich - and cripple the productive side of the economy (UK shares) when unemployed benefit claimants can't afford to move to where the jobs are. Which you are paying for too. Unless you are avoiding tax by being domiciled in Her Majesty's tax havens like the 'newspaper' owners that conned you into voting for Brexit ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 John52 - 2021-10-27 7:06 AM pelmetman - 2021-10-26 9:13 AM John52 - 2021-10-25 11:20 PM Investors have pulled $9.4bn out of UK-focused equity funds this year after hopes that a Covid-19 vaccination drive will fuel a vigorous economic recovery were overshadowed by questions about slow growth and high inflation. The net withdrawals mean that funds invested in UK stocks are now heading for a sixth consecutive year of outflows, according to EPFR data. The UK will recover more slowly from the shocks of coronavirus than other G7 nations, the IMF has forecast, with economic output in 2024 still 3 per cent below its pre-pandemic levels. “Supply issues, already acute from Covid, are being further compounded by Brexit,” a team of Barclays analysts led by Emmanuel Cau wrote in a note to clients. https://www.ft.com/content/e7488b69-db24-4053-bae3-db5930b1fe8f meanwhile the Brexit proof S&P500 hit another record high today :-S Has it earn't as much as my house has? :D ......... So thats a no then - its earned more. A lot more. Which wouldn't be difficult anyway because your house hasn't EARNT anything like shares in productive industry overseas have No new wealth has been created by house price inflation. Just the same old assets increased in price - because a shortage has been created by restricting the supply and stoking up demand with taxpayer funded subsidies like the so called 'Help to Buy' Who needs trade and industry when we can just keep pumping house prices up with printed and borrowed money *-) Just that the price of the same house has increased due to Government intervention in the housing market - which you pay for in the form of taxpayer funded subsidies like Housing Benefit. and taxpayer funded cheap mortgages All house price inflation does is transfer wealth from the poor to the rich - and cripple the productive side of the economy (UK shares) when unemployed benefit claimants can't afford to move to where the jobs are. Which you are paying for too. Unless you are avoiding tax by being domiciled in Her Majesty's tax havens like the 'newspaper' owners that conned you into voting for Brexit ? Can you live in your shares whilst they double in value? ;-) .......... Nope (lol) (lol) (lol) ............ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barryd999 Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 I have never understood why people get excited about the rise in value of their house. Unless you plan to sell it and live in a shoebox on the proceeds it does nobody any favours really. If you move, then generally you move somewhere bigger and better or in a nicer location perhaps but of course that house has also gone up by the same percentage so ultimately you lose out massively. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtravel Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 Barryd999 - 2021-10-27 2:52 PM I have never understood why people get excited about the rise in value of their house. Unless you plan to sell it ... Do you remember 2008 housing bubble ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletguy Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 pelmetman - 2021-10-27 8:25 AM John52 - 2021-10-27 7:06 AM pelmetman - 2021-10-26 9:13 AM John52 - 2021-10-25 11:20 PM Investors have pulled $9.4bn out of UK-focused equity funds this year after hopes that a Covid-19 vaccination drive will fuel a vigorous economic recovery were overshadowed by questions about slow growth and high inflation. The net withdrawals mean that funds invested in UK stocks are now heading for a sixth consecutive year of outflows, according to EPFR data. The UK will recover more slowly from the shocks of coronavirus than other G7 nations, the IMF has forecast, with economic output in 2024 still 3 per cent below its pre-pandemic levels. “Supply issues, already acute from Covid, are being further compounded by Brexit,” a team of Barclays analysts led by Emmanuel Cau wrote in a note to clients. https://www.ft.com/content/e7488b69-db24-4053-bae3-db5930b1fe8f meanwhile the Brexit proof S&P500 hit another record high today :-S Has it earn't as much as my house has? :D ......... So thats a no then - its earned more. A lot more. Which wouldn't be difficult anyway because your house hasn't EARNT anything like shares in productive industry overseas have No new wealth has been created by house price inflation. Just the same old assets increased in price - because a shortage has been created by restricting the supply and stoking up demand with taxpayer funded subsidies like the so called 'Help to Buy' Who needs trade and industry when we can just keep pumping house prices up with printed and borrowed money *-) Just that the price of the same house has increased due to Government intervention in the housing market - which you pay for in the form of taxpayer funded subsidies like Housing Benefit. and taxpayer funded cheap mortgages All house price inflation does is transfer wealth from the poor to the rich - and cripple the productive side of the economy (UK shares) when unemployed benefit claimants can't afford to move to where the jobs are. Which you are paying for too. Unless you are avoiding tax by being domiciled in Her Majesty's tax havens like the 'newspaper' owners that conned you into voting for Brexit ? Can you live in your shares whilst they double in value? ;-) .......... Nope (lol) (lol) (lol) ............ The question you asked yesterday was "has it earn't as much as my house has?" To which John asked you, "has your house increased in value (against the Brexit crash £) 6 fold in the last ten years ?" The answer is no so why can't you simply admit that instead of making yourself look foolish again as usual? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barryd999 Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 mtravel - 2021-10-27 2:22 PM Barryd999 - 2021-10-27 2:52 PM I have never understood why people get excited about the rise in value of their house. Unless you plan to sell it ... Do you remember 2008 housing bubble ? No, not really. I dont pay much attention to house prices. I have a nice house in the country which I suspect ill now never bother leaving but never say never but it makes no odds to me how much its now worth. I am quite proud of it though and that I managed to pay for it in just six years flat, didnt inherit it from my mother in law or anything like that. (lol) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletguy Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 Barryd999 - 2021-10-27 5:42 PM mtravel - 2021-10-27 2:22 PM Barryd999 - 2021-10-27 2:52 PM I have never understood why people get excited about the rise in value of their house. Unless you plan to sell it ... Do you remember 2008 housing bubble ? No, not really. I dont pay much attention to house prices. I remember it well mostly due to the number of properties in the next village to me suddenly up for sale. It's a sought after area where property rarely comes on the market so it was quite sad to see the for sale boards going up as I used to drive through every day on my way to work. Some folk took a right clobbering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John52 Posted October 27, 2021 Author Share Posted October 27, 2021 pelmetman - 2021-10-27 8:25 AM John52 - 2021-10-27 7:06 AM pelmetman - 2021-10-26 9:13 AM John52 - 2021-10-25 11:20 PM Investors have pulled $9.4bn out of UK-focused equity funds this year after hopes that a Covid-19 vaccination drive will fuel a vigorous economic recovery were overshadowed by questions about slow growth and high inflation. The net withdrawals mean that funds invested in UK stocks are now heading for a sixth consecutive year of outflows, according to EPFR data. The UK will recover more slowly from the shocks of coronavirus than other G7 nations, the IMF has forecast, with economic output in 2024 still 3 per cent below its pre-pandemic levels. “Supply issues, already acute from Covid, are being further compounded by Brexit,” a team of Barclays analysts led by Emmanuel Cau wrote in a note to clients. https://www.ft.com/content/e7488b69-db24-4053-bae3-db5930b1fe8f meanwhile the Brexit proof S&P500 hit another record high today :-S Has it earn't as much as my house has? :D ......... So thats a no then - its earned more. A lot more. Which wouldn't be difficult anyway because your house hasn't EARNT anything like shares in productive industry overseas have No new wealth has been created by house price inflation. Just the same old assets increased in price - because a shortage has been created by restricting the supply and stoking up demand with taxpayer funded subsidies like the so called 'Help to Buy' Who needs trade and industry when we can just keep pumping house prices up with printed and borrowed money *-) Just that the price of the same house has increased due to Government intervention in the housing market - which you pay for in the form of taxpayer funded subsidies like Housing Benefit. and taxpayer funded cheap mortgages All house price inflation does is transfer wealth from the poor to the rich - and cripple the productive side of the economy (UK shares) when unemployed benefit claimants can't afford to move to where the jobs are. Which you are paying for too. Unless you are avoiding tax by being domiciled in Her Majesty's tax havens like the 'newspaper' owners that conned you into voting for Brexit ? Can you live in your shares whilst they double in value? ;-) .......... Nope (lol) (lol) (lol) ............ I live in my house - which has probably gone up too - but I don't check it as I can't sell it without making myself homeless. As for investing in other houses I would rather invest in productive industry creating real wealth, rather than inflating house prices to take money from the poor, Its just a bit sad that I have to invest outside of the UK because 'feck busness' Johnson and Brexit makes it so difficult for UK industry :-( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John52 Posted October 27, 2021 Author Share Posted October 27, 2021 mtravel - 2021-10-27 2:22 PM Barryd999 - 2021-10-27 2:52 PM I have never understood why people get excited about the rise in value of their house. Unless you plan to sell it ... Do you remember 2008 housing bubble ? We have still got a house price bubble because the English Government keeps intervening in the housing market to keep prices high. Restricting supply, and stoking up demand with taxpayer funded subsidies like 'Help to Buy' and housing benefit. When house prices rise it doesn't create any wealth. It just takes money from the poor and gives it to the rich. But some of them don't seem to care how they make their money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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