Barryd999 Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 According to TruePublica Worth a read https://truepublica.org.uk/united-kingdom/expect-an-election-in-the-perfect-storm-of-next-year/ What is absolutely unbelievable (except its not) is it sounds like they intend to go into bat with Johnson still at the helm and with Brexit as the main priority. Not the humongous energy and cost of living crisis (and God knows what it will be like by then) but Brexit!! (lol) Are the British people so gullible that they will fall for all that guff once again? Roll out the big red bus again and spin lie after lie in the hope that they will be perhaps. Of course it all makes sense now. Johnsons comparison to the terrible war in the Ukraine to Brexit as bizarre and completely disgraceful as it was is just another reminder of how they will continue to play the Brexit card to rally their loyal troops. It also makes sense why Starmer has repeatedly steered away from any consideration of rejoining the EU. Its just Bizarre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurtainRaiser Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 Well the bots are out in force Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barryd999 Posted March 22, 2022 Author Share Posted March 22, 2022 I wonder if Putins Russian bots will be helping him out again or will they be focused elsewhere? After all, Brexit and Johnson are Putins baby too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John52 Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 I suspect their focus will be maligning the opposition like they did Corbyn. 'Terrorist Sympathiser etc Blaming Bliar but not Johnson for Iraq. Johnson blaming Starmer for not prosecuting Thatcher's close personal friend Sir Jimmy Savile OBE KCSG. etc As we have seen on here, some people are gullible enough to soak it up. :-S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barryd999 Posted March 22, 2022 Author Share Posted March 22, 2022 John52 - 2022-03-22 12:40 PM I suspect their focus will be maligning the opposition like they did Corbyn. 'Terrorist Sympathiser etc Blaming Bliar but not Johnson for Iraq. Johnson blaming Starmer for not prosecuting Thatcher's close personal friend Sir Jimmy Savile OBE KCSG. etc As we have seen on here, some people are gullible enough to soak it up. :-S I guess that will depend on if Starmer gets the media behind him. You can bet your bottom dollar though that it will be a downright dirty and dishonest campaign by team Johnson though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 I see Putin's little Lord Haws Haws are starting early :D ........... Stupid Sado LOSERS >:-) .......... (lol) (lol) (lol) ............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barryd999 Posted March 22, 2022 Author Share Posted March 22, 2022 pelmetman - 2022-03-22 8:31 PM I see Putin's little Lord Haws Haws are starting early :D ........... Stupid Sado LOSERS >:-) .......... (lol) (lol) (lol) ............. Says one of Putins useful idiots. *-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 Barryd999 - 2022-03-22 9:16 PM pelmetman - 2022-03-22 8:31 PM I see Putin's little Lord Haws Haws are starting early :D ........... Stupid Sado LOSERS >:-) .......... (lol) (lol) (lol) ............. Says one of Putins useful idiots. *-) HAW......HAW......HAW >:-) ......... (lol) (lol) (lol) ........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John52 Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 pelmetman - 2022-03-22 8:31 PM I see Putin's little Lord Haws Haws are starting early :D ........... Stupid Sado LOSERS >:-) .......... (lol) (lol) (lol) ............. Johnson will have to keep sending me your money to buy our votes and maintain his empire at your expense Have you realised who the Stupid Sado LOSER is yet (lol) (lol) (lol) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletguy Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 Barryd999 - 2022-03-22 10:04 AM Are the British people so gullible that they will fall for all that guff once again? Roll out the big red bus again and spin lie after lie in the hope that they will be perhaps. Of course it all makes sense now. Johnsons comparison to the terrible war in the Ukraine to Brexit as bizarre and completely disgraceful as it was is just another reminder of how they will continue to play the Brexit card to rally their loyal troops. Yes. His acolytes already parrot the rubbish they've been brainwashed with.......Build Back Better....Getting On With the Job. Such inane garbage but it appeals to the not so bright who soak this sort of tripe up. From your link; Canzini said that delivering on Brexit was the number one priority. “If you don’t think that’s a priority you shouldn’t be here” he bleated. If nothing else, this clearly demonstrates that, according to their data, core Tory voters and those in the red wall will remain loyal irrespective of the climatic conditions of the economy. It’s about Brexit first – according to them. It a good read but way beyond the Kremlin Kipper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simian Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 Better than a Bus. There could be a few cheap plastic 300 metre (980ft to Brexiteers) plastic yachts going cheap soon. Perhaps the Tory Party will buy one, as luck would have it they can even crew it at only £1.85 p/h P&O style, thus adhering to Tory thrift principles and the dic tats of market forces, definitely a double win. Then get their PR truth manipulators to paint a Party Political Slogan on it, much bigger than on a titchy bus. and no doubt an even bigger lie. I suggest something along the lines that Fishy Sunak puts the interests of red wallers before his multi millionaire self, before his billionaire FIL and before various of his business ilk. Enough will believe, that is until enough hard lessons learnt will change red wall to red mist before the eyes LOL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 I see Putin's HAW HAW HAW's have gained a new HAW :D ........ (lol) (lol) (lol) (lol) ......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barryd999 Posted March 23, 2022 Author Share Posted March 23, 2022 pelmetman - 2022-03-23 8:36 PM I see Putin's HAW HAW HAW's have gained a new HAW :D ........ (lol) (lol) (lol) (lol) ......... Do you think if you keep telling that to yourself you can convince yourself (you wont convince anyone else) that its not you thats supported politicians and a regime thats been funded by Russia and who have allowed London to be the Russian money laundering capital of the world? Even your hero Farage who you paid money to thinks Putin is the best leader ever and has been on their payroll and the rest of them are up to their necks in it. As I said. Putins useful idiot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 Barryd999 - 2022-03-23 9:56 PM pelmetman - 2022-03-23 8:36 PM I see Putin's HAW HAW HAW's have gained a new HAW :D ........ (lol) (lol) (lol) (lol) ......... Do you think if you keep telling that to yourself you can convince yourself (you wont convince anyone else) that its not you thats supported politicians and a regime thats been funded by Russia and who have allowed London to be the Russian money laundering capital of the world? Even your hero Farage who you paid money to thinks Putin is the best leader ever and has been on their payroll and the rest of them are up to their necks in it. As I said. Putins useful idiot. Russian money came flooding into London when the Berlin wall came down and LABOUR was in power ;-) ........ What did they do to prevent it (?) .......... F all *-) ............ Indeed Snakey Starmer the Trotskyist has had his own snout in the Rouble trough >:-) ......... "The party is said to have received hundreds of thousands in donations from investor and hedge fund manager Martin Taylor since 2012 - including up to £95,000 to Sir Keir Starmer’s 2020 leadership campaign. Mr Taylor co-managed the Nevsky fund, which had significant investments in the Russian economy, holding stocks in Russia’s state-owned bank Sberbank, its oil producer Lukoil, as well as its multinational energy corporation Gazprom." https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1574521/labour-donors-russia-oligarch-donations-evg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barryd999 Posted March 24, 2022 Author Share Posted March 24, 2022 pelmetman - 2022-03-24 8:00 AM Barryd999 - 2022-03-23 9:56 PM pelmetman - 2022-03-23 8:36 PM I see Putin's HAW HAW HAW's have gained a new HAW :D ........ (lol) (lol) (lol) (lol) ......... Do you think if you keep telling that to yourself you can convince yourself (you wont convince anyone else) that its not you thats supported politicians and a regime thats been funded by Russia and who have allowed London to be the Russian money laundering capital of the world? Even your hero Farage who you paid money to thinks Putin is the best leader ever and has been on their payroll and the rest of them are up to their necks in it. As I said. Putins useful idiot. Russian money came flooding into London when the Berlin wall came down and LABOUR was in power ;-) ........ What did they do to prevent it (?) .......... F all *-) ............ Indeed Snakey Starmer the Trotskyist has had his own snout in the Rouble trough >:-) ......... "The party is said to have received hundreds of thousands in donations from investor and hedge fund manager Martin Taylor since 2012 - including up to £95,000 to Sir Keir Starmer’s 2020 leadership campaign. Mr Taylor co-managed the Nevsky fund, which had significant investments in the Russian economy, holding stocks in Russia’s state-owned bank Sberbank, its oil producer Lukoil, as well as its multinational energy corporation Gazprom." https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1574521/labour-donors-russia-oligarch-donations-evg LOL! What a desperate attempt at Whataboutery by you and the Brexpress From your link "The fund operated until 2015, however, Mr Taylor was still making donations to the Labour party while this was in action - including one of £600,000 that same year. A spokesman for Mr Taylor said that the Nevsky Fund had “passively invested in small minority stakes in publicly listed companies all over the world, including in Russia”. However, the fund "took no active role whatsoever in the management of any Russian companies or had commercial business dealings with any Russian companies" and that "none of the investors in the Nevsky Fund were Russian". This appears to be a British Hedge Fund manager. Perhaps one with a conscience if that's remotely possible. Nothing to see here. Most of us with portfolios with investments outside of the UK probably have some links to Russia. I moved a lot of my money out of the UK when the Brexit deadline drew closer. I have no idea where all of it is as most of it is managed. I do know it grew by 10% last year though and its supposed to be in equitable funds. The Tory party however is up to their necks in this. Just look at how much Smuggy and his firm Somerset Capital were invested in Russia and the huge amount of donations the Tory party have taken from Russia not to mention (Again) Johnsons ennobling of one of Putins cronies despite MI6 warnings and his off piste debauched weekend in his playboy Tuscan mansion. *-) The situation in London is now so bad because the Tories are blooming well complicit with it all! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletguy Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 Barryd999 - 2022-03-24 1:01 PM pelmetman - 2022-03-24 8:00 AM Barryd999 - 2022-03-23 9:56 PM pelmetman - 2022-03-23 8:36 PM I see Putin's HAW HAW HAW's have gained a new HAW :D ........ (lol) (lol) (lol) (lol) ......... Do you think if you keep telling that to yourself you can convince yourself (you wont convince anyone else) that its not you thats supported politicians and a regime thats been funded by Russia and who have allowed London to be the Russian money laundering capital of the world? Even your hero Farage who you paid money to thinks Putin is the best leader ever and has been on their payroll and the rest of them are up to their necks in it. As I said. Putins useful idiot. Russian money came flooding into London when the Berlin wall came down and LABOUR was in power ;-) ........ What did they do to prevent it (?) .......... F all *-) ............ Indeed Snakey Starmer the Trotskyist has had his own snout in the Rouble trough >:-) ......... "The party is said to have received hundreds of thousands in donations from investor and hedge fund manager Martin Taylor since 2012 - including up to £95,000 to Sir Keir Starmer’s 2020 leadership campaign. Mr Taylor co-managed the Nevsky fund, which had significant investments in the Russian economy, holding stocks in Russia’s state-owned bank Sberbank, its oil producer Lukoil, as well as its multinational energy corporation Gazprom." https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1574521/labour-donors-russia-oligarch-donations-evg LOL! What a desperate attempt at Whataboutery by you and the Brexpress It's a lot worse than whataboutery, it's a clear example of how the Kremlin Kipper has failed....AGAIN.....to read his own link. *-) Martin Taylor was a successful hedge fund manager who donated £600k to the Labour party over a three year period. His father had been a Labour councilor and his son shared the same politics. Nothing unusual in that. Absolutely nowhere in that article does it state Russian donors made donations to the Labour party. It's a shoddy attempt at deflecting known Russian funding to the parties the Kremlin Kipper supports. It's a total non-story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletguy Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 Awkward. :-S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted March 25, 2022 Share Posted March 25, 2022 Barryd999 - 2022-03-24 1:01 PM pelmetman - 2022-03-24 8:00 AM Barryd999 - 2022-03-23 9:56 PM pelmetman - 2022-03-23 8:36 PM I see Putin's HAW HAW HAW's have gained a new HAW :D ........ (lol) (lol) (lol) (lol) ......... Do you think if you keep telling that to yourself you can convince yourself (you wont convince anyone else) that its not you thats supported politicians and a regime thats been funded by Russia and who have allowed London to be the Russian money laundering capital of the world? Even your hero Farage who you paid money to thinks Putin is the best leader ever and has been on their payroll and the rest of them are up to their necks in it. As I said. Putins useful idiot. Russian money came flooding into London when the Berlin wall came down and LABOUR was in power ;-) ........ What did they do to prevent it (?) .......... F all *-) ............ Indeed Snakey Starmer the Trotskyist has had his own snout in the Rouble trough >:-) ......... "The party is said to have received hundreds of thousands in donations from investor and hedge fund manager Martin Taylor since 2012 - including up to £95,000 to Sir Keir Starmer’s 2020 leadership campaign. Mr Taylor co-managed the Nevsky fund, which had significant investments in the Russian economy, holding stocks in Russia’s state-owned bank Sberbank, its oil producer Lukoil, as well as its multinational energy corporation Gazprom." https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1574521/labour-donors-russia-oligarch-donations-evg LOL! What a desperate attempt at Whataboutery by you and the Brexpress From your link "The fund operated until 2015, however, Mr Taylor was still making donations to the Labour party while this was in action - including one of £600,000 that same year. A spokesman for Mr Taylor said that the Nevsky Fund had “passively invested in small minority stakes in publicly listed companies all over the world, including in Russia”. However, the fund "took no active role whatsoever in the management of any Russian companies or had commercial business dealings with any Russian companies" and that "none of the investors in the Nevsky Fund were Russian". This appears to be a British Hedge Fund manager. Perhaps one with a conscience if that's remotely possible. Nothing to see here. Most of us with portfolios with investments outside of the UK probably have some links to Russia. I moved a lot of my money out of the UK when the Brexit deadline drew closer. I have no idea where all of it is as most of it is managed. I do know it grew by 10% last year though and its supposed to be in equitable funds. The Tory party however is up to their necks in this. Just look at how much Smuggy and his firm Somerset Capital were invested in Russia and the huge amount of donations the Tory party have taken from Russia not to mention (Again) Johnsons ennobling of one of Putins cronies despite MI6 warnings and his off piste debauched weekend in his playboy Tuscan mansion. *-) The situation in London is now so bad because the Tories are blooming well complicit with it all! So another one who moved his dosh abroad, AND admits he dosen't KNOW where, so part of it is probably invested in RUSSIA ;-) .......... Yet has the gall to slag off the Tories *-) ......... Worra 2 faced hypocrite >:-) .......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barryd999 Posted March 25, 2022 Author Share Posted March 25, 2022 pelmetman - 2022-03-25 8:13 AM Barryd999 - 2022-03-24 1:01 PM pelmetman - 2022-03-24 8:00 AM Barryd999 - 2022-03-23 9:56 PM pelmetman - 2022-03-23 8:36 PM I see Putin's HAW HAW HAW's have gained a new HAW :D ........ (lol) (lol) (lol) (lol) ......... Do you think if you keep telling that to yourself you can convince yourself (you wont convince anyone else) that its not you thats supported politicians and a regime thats been funded by Russia and who have allowed London to be the Russian money laundering capital of the world? Even your hero Farage who you paid money to thinks Putin is the best leader ever and has been on their payroll and the rest of them are up to their necks in it. As I said. Putins useful idiot. Russian money came flooding into London when the Berlin wall came down and LABOUR was in power ;-) ........ What did they do to prevent it (?) .......... F all *-) ............ Indeed Snakey Starmer the Trotskyist has had his own snout in the Rouble trough >:-) ......... "The party is said to have received hundreds of thousands in donations from investor and hedge fund manager Martin Taylor since 2012 - including up to £95,000 to Sir Keir Starmer’s 2020 leadership campaign. Mr Taylor co-managed the Nevsky fund, which had significant investments in the Russian economy, holding stocks in Russia’s state-owned bank Sberbank, its oil producer Lukoil, as well as its multinational energy corporation Gazprom." https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1574521/labour-donors-russia-oligarch-donations-evg LOL! What a desperate attempt at Whataboutery by you and the Brexpress From your link "The fund operated until 2015, however, Mr Taylor was still making donations to the Labour party while this was in action - including one of £600,000 that same year. A spokesman for Mr Taylor said that the Nevsky Fund had “passively invested in small minority stakes in publicly listed companies all over the world, including in Russia”. However, the fund "took no active role whatsoever in the management of any Russian companies or had commercial business dealings with any Russian companies" and that "none of the investors in the Nevsky Fund were Russian". This appears to be a British Hedge Fund manager. Perhaps one with a conscience if that's remotely possible. Nothing to see here. Most of us with portfolios with investments outside of the UK probably have some links to Russia. I moved a lot of my money out of the UK when the Brexit deadline drew closer. I have no idea where all of it is as most of it is managed. I do know it grew by 10% last year though and its supposed to be in equitable funds. The Tory party however is up to their necks in this. Just look at how much Smuggy and his firm Somerset Capital were invested in Russia and the huge amount of donations the Tory party have taken from Russia not to mention (Again) Johnsons ennobling of one of Putins cronies despite MI6 warnings and his off piste debauched weekend in his playboy Tuscan mansion. *-) The situation in London is now so bad because the Tories are blooming well complicit with it all! So another one who moved his dosh abroad, AND admits he dosen't KNOW where, so part of it is probably invested in RUSSIA ;-) .......... Yet has the gall to slag off the Tories *-) ......... Worra 2 faced hypocrite >:-) .......... Do you not have pensions and investments Dave or do you totally rely on your wife's inheritance? Do you know where all your / her money is? Some of mine is in overseas equatable markets managed by a reputable UK investment company so you can probably assume its not propping up Bond Villains in Russia. Smuggy on the other hand is a government minister and his company has knowingly poured millions into Russia not just a few hundred K in equitable pension and investment funds managed by someone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted March 25, 2022 Share Posted March 25, 2022 Barryd999 - 2022-03-25 8:25 AM pelmetman - 2022-03-25 8:13 AM Barryd999 - 2022-03-24 1:01 PM pelmetman - 2022-03-24 8:00 AM Barryd999 - 2022-03-23 9:56 PM pelmetman - 2022-03-23 8:36 PM I see Putin's HAW HAW HAW's have gained a new HAW :D ........ (lol) (lol) (lol) (lol) ......... Do you think if you keep telling that to yourself you can convince yourself (you wont convince anyone else) that its not you thats supported politicians and a regime thats been funded by Russia and who have allowed London to be the Russian money laundering capital of the world? Even your hero Farage who you paid money to thinks Putin is the best leader ever and has been on their payroll and the rest of them are up to their necks in it. As I said. Putins useful idiot. Russian money came flooding into London when the Berlin wall came down and LABOUR was in power ;-) ........ What did they do to prevent it (?) .......... F all *-) ............ Indeed Snakey Starmer the Trotskyist has had his own snout in the Rouble trough >:-) ......... "The party is said to have received hundreds of thousands in donations from investor and hedge fund manager Martin Taylor since 2012 - including up to £95,000 to Sir Keir Starmer’s 2020 leadership campaign. Mr Taylor co-managed the Nevsky fund, which had significant investments in the Russian economy, holding stocks in Russia’s state-owned bank Sberbank, its oil producer Lukoil, as well as its multinational energy corporation Gazprom." https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1574521/labour-donors-russia-oligarch-donations-evg LOL! What a desperate attempt at Whataboutery by you and the Brexpress From your link "The fund operated until 2015, however, Mr Taylor was still making donations to the Labour party while this was in action - including one of £600,000 that same year. A spokesman for Mr Taylor said that the Nevsky Fund had “passively invested in small minority stakes in publicly listed companies all over the world, including in Russia”. However, the fund "took no active role whatsoever in the management of any Russian companies or had commercial business dealings with any Russian companies" and that "none of the investors in the Nevsky Fund were Russian". This appears to be a British Hedge Fund manager. Perhaps one with a conscience if that's remotely possible. Nothing to see here. Most of us with portfolios with investments outside of the UK probably have some links to Russia. I moved a lot of my money out of the UK when the Brexit deadline drew closer. I have no idea where all of it is as most of it is managed. I do know it grew by 10% last year though and its supposed to be in equitable funds. The Tory party however is up to their necks in this. Just look at how much Smuggy and his firm Somerset Capital were invested in Russia and the huge amount of donations the Tory party have taken from Russia not to mention (Again) Johnsons ennobling of one of Putins cronies despite MI6 warnings and his off piste debauched weekend in his playboy Tuscan mansion. *-) The situation in London is now so bad because the Tories are blooming well complicit with it all! So another one who moved his dosh abroad, AND admits he dosen't KNOW where, so part of it is probably invested in RUSSIA ;-) .......... Yet has the gall to slag off the Tories *-) ......... Worra 2 faced hypocrite >:-) .......... Do you not have pensions and investments Dave or do you totally rely on your wife's inheritance? Do you know where all your / her money is? Some of mine is in overseas equatable markets managed by a reputable UK investment company so you can probably assume its not propping up Bond Villains in Russia. Smuggy on the other hand is a government minister and his company has knowingly poured millions into Russia not just a few hundred K in equitable pension and investment funds managed by someone else. I'm not the one trying to claim the moral highground on Russian money........am I? >:-) .......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletguy Posted March 25, 2022 Share Posted March 25, 2022 pelmetman - 2022-03-25 8:28 AM I'm not the one trying to claim the moral highground on Russian money........am I? >:-) .......... You try but fail every time.........because by your own admittance you subscribe to Russian funded political parties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barryd999 Posted March 25, 2022 Author Share Posted March 25, 2022 Gremlin - 2022-03-25 12:29 PM Barryd999 - 2022-03-25 8:25 AM pelmetman - 2022-03-25 8:13 AM Barryd999 - 2022-03-24 1:01 PM pelmetman - 2022-03-24 8:00 AM Barryd999 - 2022-03-23 9:56 PM pelmetman - 2022-03-23 8:36 PM I see Putin's HAW HAW HAW's have gained a new HAW :D ........ (lol) (lol) (lol) (lol) ......... Do you think if you keep telling that to yourself you can convince yourself (you wont convince anyone else) that its not you thats supported politicians and a regime thats been funded by Russia and who have allowed London to be the Russian money laundering capital of the world? Even your hero Farage who you paid money to thinks Putin is the best leader ever and has been on their payroll and the rest of them are up to their necks in it. As I said. Putins useful idiot. Russian money came flooding into London when the Berlin wall came down and LABOUR was in power ;-) ........ What did they do to prevent it (?) .......... F all *-) ............ Indeed Snakey Starmer the Trotskyist has had his own snout in the Rouble trough >:-) ......... "The party is said to have received hundreds of thousands in donations from investor and hedge fund manager Martin Taylor since 2012 - including up to £95,000 to Sir Keir Starmer’s 2020 leadership campaign. Mr Taylor co-managed the Nevsky fund, which had significant investments in the Russian economy, holding stocks in Russia’s state-owned bank Sberbank, its oil producer Lukoil, as well as its multinational energy corporation Gazprom." https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1574521/labour-donors-russia-oligarch-donations-evg LOL! What a desperate attempt at Whataboutery by you and the Brexpress From your link "The fund operated until 2015, however, Mr Taylor was still making donations to the Labour party while this was in action - including one of £600,000 that same year. A spokesman for Mr Taylor said that the Nevsky Fund had “passively invested in small minority stakes in publicly listed companies all over the world, including in Russia”. However, the fund "took no active role whatsoever in the management of any Russian companies or had commercial business dealings with any Russian companies" and that "none of the investors in the Nevsky Fund were Russian". This appears to be a British Hedge Fund manager. Perhaps one with a conscience if that's remotely possible. Nothing to see here. Most of us with portfolios with investments outside of the UK probably have some links to Russia. I moved a lot of my money out of the UK when the Brexit deadline drew closer. I have no idea where all of it is as most of it is managed. I do know it grew by 10% last year though and its supposed to be in equitable funds. The Tory party however is up to their necks in this. Just look at how much Smuggy and his firm Somerset Capital were invested in Russia and the huge amount of donations the Tory party have taken from Russia not to mention (Again) Johnsons ennobling of one of Putins cronies despite MI6 warnings and his off piste debauched weekend in his playboy Tuscan mansion. *-) The situation in London is now so bad because the Tories are blooming well complicit with it all! So another one who moved his dosh abroad, AND admits he dosen't KNOW where, so part of it is probably invested in RUSSIA ;-) .......... Yet has the gall to slag off the Tories *-) ......... Worra 2 faced hypocrite >:-) .......... Do you not have pensions and investments Dave or do you totally rely on your wife's inheritance? Do you know where all your / her money is? Some of mine is in overseas equatable markets managed by a reputable UK investment company so you can probably assume its not propping up Bond Villains in Russia. Smuggy on the other hand is a government minister and his company has knowingly poured millions into Russia not just a few hundred K in equitable pension and investment funds managed by someone else. You are making an awful lot of assumptions there about where your money is invested. Unless you actually check it out - you cannot assume equitably. One persons “equitable” is another persons conflict investment. Take each fund and check each one out - I would recommend Trustnet or Morning Star for this - from this you can get not just a geographic breakdown of each funds exposure but a list of exactly which companies they invest in. You would still never know for sure unless you drilled down through each investment and every single sector and company and subsidiary. Even then it would be nigh on impossible. The world is a huge market place and all of us will be buying products or investing in something or other that has some links to Russia or maybe other countries of dubious standing without knowing. There is as I said though a big difference between that and being a minister knowingly investing millions into dodgy Russian companies and financial institutions and being up to your neck in it from dodgy donations to allowing the capital you are in control of to float on dirty Russian money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted March 25, 2022 Share Posted March 25, 2022 Barryd999 - 2022-03-25 6:47 PM Gremlin - 2022-03-25 12:29 PM Barryd999 - 2022-03-25 8:25 AM pelmetman - 2022-03-25 8:13 AM Barryd999 - 2022-03-24 1:01 PM pelmetman - 2022-03-24 8:00 AM Barryd999 - 2022-03-23 9:56 PM pelmetman - 2022-03-23 8:36 PM I see Putin's HAW HAW HAW's have gained a new HAW :D ........ (lol) (lol) (lol) (lol) ......... Do you think if you keep telling that to yourself you can convince yourself (you wont convince anyone else) that its not you thats supported politicians and a regime thats been funded by Russia and who have allowed London to be the Russian money laundering capital of the world? Even your hero Farage who you paid money to thinks Putin is the best leader ever and has been on their payroll and the rest of them are up to their necks in it. As I said. Putins useful idiot. Russian money came flooding into London when the Berlin wall came down and LABOUR was in power ;-) ........ What did they do to prevent it (?) .......... F all *-) ............ Indeed Snakey Starmer the Trotskyist has had his own snout in the Rouble trough >:-) ......... "The party is said to have received hundreds of thousands in donations from investor and hedge fund manager Martin Taylor since 2012 - including up to £95,000 to Sir Keir Starmer’s 2020 leadership campaign. Mr Taylor co-managed the Nevsky fund, which had significant investments in the Russian economy, holding stocks in Russia’s state-owned bank Sberbank, its oil producer Lukoil, as well as its multinational energy corporation Gazprom." https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1574521/labour-donors-russia-oligarch-donations-evg LOL! What a desperate attempt at Whataboutery by you and the Brexpress From your link "The fund operated until 2015, however, Mr Taylor was still making donations to the Labour party while this was in action - including one of £600,000 that same year. A spokesman for Mr Taylor said that the Nevsky Fund had “passively invested in small minority stakes in publicly listed companies all over the world, including in Russia”. However, the fund "took no active role whatsoever in the management of any Russian companies or had commercial business dealings with any Russian companies" and that "none of the investors in the Nevsky Fund were Russian". This appears to be a British Hedge Fund manager. Perhaps one with a conscience if that's remotely possible. Nothing to see here. Most of us with portfolios with investments outside of the UK probably have some links to Russia. I moved a lot of my money out of the UK when the Brexit deadline drew closer. I have no idea where all of it is as most of it is managed. I do know it grew by 10% last year though and its supposed to be in equitable funds. The Tory party however is up to their necks in this. Just look at how much Smuggy and his firm Somerset Capital were invested in Russia and the huge amount of donations the Tory party have taken from Russia not to mention (Again) Johnsons ennobling of one of Putins cronies despite MI6 warnings and his off piste debauched weekend in his playboy Tuscan mansion. *-) The situation in London is now so bad because the Tories are blooming well complicit with it all! So another one who moved his dosh abroad, AND admits he dosen't KNOW where, so part of it is probably invested in RUSSIA ;-) .......... Yet has the gall to slag off the Tories *-) ......... Worra 2 faced hypocrite >:-) .......... Do you not have pensions and investments Dave or do you totally rely on your wife's inheritance? Do you know where all your / her money is? Some of mine is in overseas equatable markets managed by a reputable UK investment company so you can probably assume its not propping up Bond Villains in Russia. Smuggy on the other hand is a government minister and his company has knowingly poured millions into Russia not just a few hundred K in equitable pension and investment funds managed by someone else. You are making an awful lot of assumptions there about where your money is invested. Unless you actually check it out - you cannot assume equitably. One persons “equitable” is another persons conflict investment. Take each fund and check each one out - I would recommend Trustnet or Morning Star for this - from this you can get not just a geographic breakdown of each funds exposure but a list of exactly which companies they invest in. You would still never know for sure unless you drilled down through each investment and every single sector and company and subsidiary. Even then it would be nigh on impossible. The world is a huge market place and all of us will be buying products or investing in something or other that has some links to Russia or maybe other countries of dubious standing without knowing. There is as I said though a big difference between that and being a minister knowingly investing millions into dodgy Russian companies and financial institutions and being up to your neck in it from dodgy donations to allowing the capital you are in control of to float on dirty Russian money. Nope there's no difference.......Russian money is "Russian"money >:-) ........ You're just a 2 faced hypocrite (lol) (lol) (lol) .......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurtainRaiser Posted March 25, 2022 Share Posted March 25, 2022 pelmetman - 2022-03-25 9:05 PM Barryd999 - 2022-03-25 6:47 PM Gremlin - 2022-03-25 12:29 PM Barryd999 - 2022-03-25 8:25 AM pelmetman - 2022-03-25 8:13 AM Barryd999 - 2022-03-24 1:01 PM pelmetman - 2022-03-24 8:00 AM Barryd999 - 2022-03-23 9:56 PM pelmetman - 2022-03-23 8:36 PM I see Putin's HAW HAW HAW's have gained a new HAW :D ........ (lol) (lol) (lol) (lol) ......... Do you think if you keep telling that to yourself you can convince yourself (you wont convince anyone else) that its not you thats supported politicians and a regime thats been funded by Russia and who have allowed London to be the Russian money laundering capital of the world? Even your hero Farage who you paid money to thinks Putin is the best leader ever and has been on their payroll and the rest of them are up to their necks in it. As I said. Putins useful idiot. Russian money came flooding into London when the Berlin wall came down and LABOUR was in power ;-) ........ What did they do to prevent it (?) .......... F all *-) ............ Indeed Snakey Starmer the Trotskyist has had his own snout in the Rouble trough >:-) ......... "The party is said to have received hundreds of thousands in donations from investor and hedge fund manager Martin Taylor since 2012 - including up to £95,000 to Sir Keir Starmer’s 2020 leadership campaign. Mr Taylor co-managed the Nevsky fund, which had significant investments in the Russian economy, holding stocks in Russia’s state-owned bank Sberbank, its oil producer Lukoil, as well as its multinational energy corporation Gazprom." https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1574521/labour-donors-russia-oligarch-donations-evg LOL! What a desperate attempt at Whataboutery by you and the Brexpress From your link "The fund operated until 2015, however, Mr Taylor was still making donations to the Labour party while this was in action - including one of £600,000 that same year. A spokesman for Mr Taylor said that the Nevsky Fund had “passively invested in small minority stakes in publicly listed companies all over the world, including in Russia”. However, the fund "took no active role whatsoever in the management of any Russian companies or had commercial business dealings with any Russian companies" and that "none of the investors in the Nevsky Fund were Russian". This appears to be a British Hedge Fund manager. Perhaps one with a conscience if that's remotely possible. Nothing to see here. Most of us with portfolios with investments outside of the UK probably have some links to Russia. I moved a lot of my money out of the UK when the Brexit deadline drew closer. I have no idea where all of it is as most of it is managed. I do know it grew by 10% last year though and its supposed to be in equitable funds. The Tory party however is up to their necks in this. Just look at how much Smuggy and his firm Somerset Capital were invested in Russia and the huge amount of donations the Tory party have taken from Russia not to mention (Again) Johnsons ennobling of one of Putins cronies despite MI6 warnings and his off piste debauched weekend in his playboy Tuscan mansion. *-) The situation in London is now so bad because the Tories are blooming well complicit with it all! So another one who moved his dosh abroad, AND admits he dosen't KNOW where, so part of it is probably invested in RUSSIA ;-) .......... Yet has the gall to slag off the Tories *-) ......... Worra 2 faced hypocrite >:-) .......... Do you not have pensions and investments Dave or do you totally rely on your wife's inheritance? Do you know where all your / her money is? Some of mine is in overseas equatable markets managed by a reputable UK investment company so you can probably assume its not propping up Bond Villains in Russia. Smuggy on the other hand is a government minister and his company has knowingly poured millions into Russia not just a few hundred K in equitable pension and investment funds managed by someone else. You are making an awful lot of assumptions there about where your money is invested. Unless you actually check it out - you cannot assume equitably. One persons “equitable” is another persons conflict investment. Take each fund and check each one out - I would recommend Trustnet or Morning Star for this - from this you can get not just a geographic breakdown of each funds exposure but a list of exactly which companies they invest in. You would still never know for sure unless you drilled down through each investment and every single sector and company and subsidiary. Even then it would be nigh on impossible. The world is a huge market place and all of us will be buying products or investing in something or other that has some links to Russia or maybe other countries of dubious standing without knowing. There is as I said though a big difference between that and being a minister knowingly investing millions into dodgy Russian companies and financial institutions and being up to your neck in it from dodgy donations to allowing the capital you are in control of to float on dirty Russian money. Nope there's no difference.......Russian money is "Russian"money >:-) ........ You're just a 2 faced hypocrite (lol) (lol) (lol) .......... Where's your wifes money invested? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted March 25, 2022 Share Posted March 25, 2022 CurtainRaiser - 2022-03-25 9:08 PM pelmetman - 2022-03-25 9:05 PM Barryd999 - 2022-03-25 6:47 PM Gremlin - 2022-03-25 12:29 PM Barryd999 - 2022-03-25 8:25 AM pelmetman - 2022-03-25 8:13 AM Barryd999 - 2022-03-24 1:01 PM pelmetman - 2022-03-24 8:00 AM Barryd999 - 2022-03-23 9:56 PM pelmetman - 2022-03-23 8:36 PM I see Putin's HAW HAW HAW's have gained a new HAW :D ........ (lol) (lol) (lol) (lol) ......... Do you think if you keep telling that to yourself you can convince yourself (you wont convince anyone else) that its not you thats supported politicians and a regime thats been funded by Russia and who have allowed London to be the Russian money laundering capital of the world? Even your hero Farage who you paid money to thinks Putin is the best leader ever and has been on their payroll and the rest of them are up to their necks in it. As I said. Putins useful idiot. Russian money came flooding into London when the Berlin wall came down and LABOUR was in power ;-) ........ What did they do to prevent it (?) .......... F all *-) ............ Indeed Snakey Starmer the Trotskyist has had his own snout in the Rouble trough >:-) ......... "The party is said to have received hundreds of thousands in donations from investor and hedge fund manager Martin Taylor since 2012 - including up to £95,000 to Sir Keir Starmer’s 2020 leadership campaign. Mr Taylor co-managed the Nevsky fund, which had significant investments in the Russian economy, holding stocks in Russia’s state-owned bank Sberbank, its oil producer Lukoil, as well as its multinational energy corporation Gazprom." https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1574521/labour-donors-russia-oligarch-donations-evg LOL! What a desperate attempt at Whataboutery by you and the Brexpress From your link "The fund operated until 2015, however, Mr Taylor was still making donations to the Labour party while this was in action - including one of £600,000 that same year. A spokesman for Mr Taylor said that the Nevsky Fund had “passively invested in small minority stakes in publicly listed companies all over the world, including in Russia”. However, the fund "took no active role whatsoever in the management of any Russian companies or had commercial business dealings with any Russian companies" and that "none of the investors in the Nevsky Fund were Russian". This appears to be a British Hedge Fund manager. Perhaps one with a conscience if that's remotely possible. Nothing to see here. Most of us with portfolios with investments outside of the UK probably have some links to Russia. I moved a lot of my money out of the UK when the Brexit deadline drew closer. I have no idea where all of it is as most of it is managed. I do know it grew by 10% last year though and its supposed to be in equitable funds. The Tory party however is up to their necks in this. Just look at how much Smuggy and his firm Somerset Capital were invested in Russia and the huge amount of donations the Tory party have taken from Russia not to mention (Again) Johnsons ennobling of one of Putins cronies despite MI6 warnings and his off piste debauched weekend in his playboy Tuscan mansion. *-) The situation in London is now so bad because the Tories are blooming well complicit with it all! So another one who moved his dosh abroad, AND admits he dosen't KNOW where, so part of it is probably invested in RUSSIA ;-) .......... Yet has the gall to slag off the Tories *-) ......... Worra 2 faced hypocrite >:-) .......... Do you not have pensions and investments Dave or do you totally rely on your wife's inheritance? Do you know where all your / her money is? Some of mine is in overseas equatable markets managed by a reputable UK investment company so you can probably assume its not propping up Bond Villains in Russia. Smuggy on the other hand is a government minister and his company has knowingly poured millions into Russia not just a few hundred K in equitable pension and investment funds managed by someone else. You are making an awful lot of assumptions there about where your money is invested. Unless you actually check it out - you cannot assume equitably. One persons “equitable” is another persons conflict investment. Take each fund and check each one out - I would recommend Trustnet or Morning Star for this - from this you can get not just a geographic breakdown of each funds exposure but a list of exactly which companies they invest in. You would still never know for sure unless you drilled down through each investment and every single sector and company and subsidiary. Even then it would be nigh on impossible. The world is a huge market place and all of us will be buying products or investing in something or other that has some links to Russia or maybe other countries of dubious standing without knowing. There is as I said though a big difference between that and being a minister knowingly investing millions into dodgy Russian companies and financial institutions and being up to your neck in it from dodgy donations to allowing the capital you are in control of to float on dirty Russian money. Nope there's no difference.......Russian money is "Russian"money >:-) ........ You're just a 2 faced hypocrite (lol) (lol) (lol) .......... Where's your wifes money invested? In the house :D ......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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