Cost of living

[CurtainRaiser]

Gremlin - 2022-04-05 5:18 PM

 

CurtainRaiser - 2022-04-05 12:15 PM

 

Gremlin - 2022-04-05 11:03 AM

 

John52 - 2022-04-05 7:55 AM

 

Gremlin - 2022-04-05 4:59 AM

I would turn off the energy imports from Russia that keep funding the killing, the torture, the bombings, the rape of children in front of their parents.

Yes, that is what I would turn off, even if I had a disabled child and debt as a consequence - because I would not want the death and torture of other children to be on my conscience.

 

So what have you turned off?

I've turned off my gas

So I'm sitting here in 2 pairs of joggers, 2 pullovers and a fleece, - warm enough.

The more we use the more the price goes up and funds Putins war machine.

My money is going for Ukraine instead of Putin. :-D

Admittedly its easier for me because I live in a big old house on my own, so a big saving for comparatively little inconvenience. I recognise not everyone can do it. But lets do what we can.

 

Totally agree.

 

We have turned our gas central heating right down and use electric as much as possible as we have solar panels and battery.

 

We do have a gas hob - but have dusted off our old George Forman grill so outside BBQ’s on this are free as long as there is sufficient light.

 

What battery system do you have and how much does it contribute over the winter?

 

Why do you ask?

 

Because I have a 4kw solar system and am beginning to think that battery storage is the way to go so I'm interested in others solutions.

[Bulletguy]

Gremlin - 2022-04-05 5:17 PM

 

Bulletguy - 2022-04-05 4:00 PM

 

Gremlin - 2022-04-05 4:59 AM

 

Bulletguy - 2022-04-04 10:09 PM

 

Gremlin - 2022-04-04 4:29 PM

 

Bulletguy - 2022-04-04 3:27 PM

 

Gremlin - 2022-04-04 9:17 AM

 

John52 - 2022-04-04 9:03 AM

 

Gremlin - 2022-04-04 8:58 AM

You do make me laugh!

 

You ignore the fact that Germans are also paying record highs for their energy - Reuters have good coverage for this - and have done for some time.

 

The say prices have risen 62% since December - whereas the UK’s price cap restricts any increase to 54%

 

Reuters reports that “The European Gas Spot index at the German Trading hub “THE” is up 93% this month from the previous Month.”

 

And of course todays Spot Price has not yet worked it’s way through to consumers yet.

 

So - do be fair - please!!!

 

Not only is Germany experiencing price rises higher than the U.K.’s increase, capped at 54%, - but a) more price rises are “in the pipeline” (see what I did there……. (lol) ) and b) Germany could end up with its economy badly hit if rationing is applied and homes are prioritised over industry.

 

 

So - far from what you try to spin - the reality is pretty much the opposite of your crazy bullshirt.

 

I have already pointed out where a x% rise in EU prices is less than an x% rise in UK prices.

You should compare the prices we are paying, not the % increase

 

So - do be fair - please!!!

In

Really?

 

Household energy bill per household €3400 estimated for 2022 in Germany

 

€3000 for U.K.

 

€2800 for France

 

€2000 for Spain

 

These figs from Allianz-trade

 

And as far as I am aware Germany does not have a price cap that we do in the U.K. (54%) which tho high - does at least put an upper limit on bills regardless of how rich or poor you are.

 

You seem determined not to deal with the reality that Germany is likely to experience not only higher gas prices due to increases not being capped, but usage being rationed as well.

Your rabid Germanophobia is on a par with the other wingnut on this forum. Germany enjoys a much higher standard of living than UK and when comparing costs you also need to account for average income levels.

 

As for their energy price cap, they are looking at slashing VAT for a start....something Johnson and Gove claimed “when we vote Leave we will be able to scrap this unfair tax”. https://inews.co.uk/opinion/brexit-vote-leave-energy-bills-broken-promises-poorer-areas-1392403

 

Well UK left the EU but VAT is still in place. Why? Scrap it NOW. Get it done. You're a Brexit Believer so get delivering.

 

Other European countries have already offered financial relief to consumers – Belgium, for example, has reduced VAT on electricity prices from 21 to 6 percent and given all households an energy bill discount of €100.

 

France has capped theirs at 4% plus given households a discount of €100.....cash. NOT a loan as UK did, France gave it to their citizens.

 

Finally, a lady posted this yesterday.....and there will undoubtedly be more in similar situations. It's about her daughter and the horrendous increase in her energy bills shes now facing paying £4,500 a year. She asks one question;

 

"What do we turn off?"

 

 

I could easily say the same about your rabid U.K.aphobia - you lot never give up on cherry picking data to prove how much worse it is.

 

All I do is cite some facts from a respected source and look what you do! - falsely accuse me of a phobia against a country I have a great respect for (apart from its politicians) but it has allowed itself to become energy subservient to Russia.

 

This is a fact - as is the fact - that we have a 54% price cap.

 

Again something all your spluttering swively eyed spittle flecked angry response ignores because it does not fit your false narrative.

 

I am deeply sorry for the disabled child.

 

It cannot be easy.

 

And they have all of our sympathy I am sure.

 

But to cynically use their plight to bolster your false narrative is the actions of a charlatan.

 

Shame on you.

"Cherry picking"????!!! Hilarious......kettle calling teapot but of course you're so bloody arrogant and bloated full of self importance you believe you're beyond reproach.

 

You regularly "cite from a source" but rarely if ever link it. You concluded from those figures you quoted, Germany is paying more per household for their energy than UK.......period. Thats it. But the following albeit 4 years old shows your conclusion is not entirely correct and I cite my source;

 

According to the most recent data, German retail power rates are the highest in the EU along with Denmark’s. The monthly power bill is, however, exaggerated in reports. Average German power bills are consistently overestimated.

 

Estimates for the average power bill are also circulated but seem systematically exaggerated. For instance, the German article linked to above comes to a monthly power bill of 93.93 euros based on 4,000 kWh of consumption annually. That figure is even higher than the usual 3,500 kWh annually for a “three-person household” – the metric usually used by German utility umbrella organization BDEW (in German).

 

Germany has an estimated 41 million households and a population of 82 million people, putting the average number of people per household at exactly two. A three-person household is larger than the average. More importantly, the number of kilowatt-hours consumed in residential buildings is also considerably lower.

 

The EU does not gather statistics on monthly residential power bills, so we cannot easily compare. “Strom Report” tries to put the matter into context using the data available, so we see that German retail power prices (not bills!) are in the middle of the field once account is taken of purchasing power. But even that comparison does not take account of actual spending – the bills, not just the prices. I have also written here about households not being able to pay their energy bills, and once again Germany does not perform so poorly.

 

https://energytransition.org/2018/02/high-german-power-prices-low-monthly-bills/

 

We have a 54% price cap but as i've already said that's far too high and totally unsustainable when bearing in mind a further similar increase will kick in come October. European countries have either already slashed their VAT or looking at doing so.

 

France capped their energy at 4%........50% LESS than UK so we're not doing good there.

 

France has also given households €100.....cash. NOT a loan as UK is doing. Cash into their citizens bank accounts. So once again we're still not doing very well.

 

Now, Johnson and Gove claimed “when we vote Leave we will be able to scrap this unfair tax” (referring to VAT).

https://inews.co.uk/opinion/brexit-vote-leave-energy-bills-broken-promises-poorer-areas-1392403

 

Well UK has left the EU but VAT on energy is still in place. Why? Scrap it NOW. Get it done. You're a Brexit Believer so get delivering instead of time wasting and deflecting finger pointing at other countries.

 

And you didn't answer that lady's question....."What do we turn off?" There's no false narrative, it's an extremely serious matter.

 

What do we turn off?

She doesn't live in Russia, the EU, or Germany.......she lives here in UK so keep it real instead of diving off down a warren of rabbit holes muttering about rape and roubles.

 

Truth is your Brexit boys lied to the nation about “when we vote Leave we will be able to scrap this unfair tax” (VAT). Yet another example of why Brexit is an unmitigated disaster which has wreaked £billions of damage, the biggest single act of self harm ever inflicted on a nation. Anyone still supporting such lunacy needs sectioning.

 

What’s not real about people dying because your beloved EU still keeps their killers, their rapists, their torturers money to buy energy “because not to do so would hurt us as much as them”.

 

 

Yeah right

 

If anyone needs to get real it’s you.

Carry on digging that hole you're in just keeps getting bigger. (lol)(lol)

[Guest pelmetman]

Day 6 of the massive energy price hike ;-) ........

 

Leccy .........£8.81

 

Gas............£21.91

 

That's a daily average of £5.12 .........

 

It's looking like I'm gonna need to reduce my direct debits B-) .........

[CurtainRaiser]

Gremlin - 2022-04-06 10:35 AM

 

Well our Tesla battery works for us.

 

We also have a gizmo that takes spare and dumps it in our hot water tank - free hot water!!

 

The idiot assessor said we should have a combi boiler and no tank. Total prat he was.

 

Edit - apologies - this in response to battery Q

 

I call BS, like most liars you can't keep up with your own lies.

 

On the 7th March in the Nyet Zero thread you said:

 

"I have solar panels - and in order to get the FIT we had to improve our insulation. So we did at considerable expense.

 

I now delight in the fact that I effectively turn my gas boiler off in the summer months because we have a neat little gizmo that diverts some of the excess power we generate to our hot water tank - so we have pretty much constant hot water year round......

 

I’m now looking at a battery system to store power for use at night."

 

 

 

The lead time for a Tesla Powerwall in the UK is "a minimum of three months."

[colin]

pelmetman - 2022-04-06 9:20 AM

 

Day 6 of the massive energy price hike ;-) ........

 

Leccy .........£8.81

 

Gas............£21.91

 

That's a daily average of £5.12 .........

 

It's looking like I'm gonna need to reduce my direct debits B-) .........

 

Only you haven't had 6 days of the new tariffs yet, so you average daily bill is nearer £6.

[Bulletguy]

colin - 2022-04-06 1:05 PM

 

pelmetman - 2022-04-06 9:20 AM

 

Day 6 of the massive energy price hike ;-) ........

 

Leccy .........£8.81

 

Gas............£21.91

 

That's a daily average of £5.12 .........

 

It's looking like I'm gonna need to reduce my direct debits B-) .........

 

Only you haven't had 6 days of the new tariffs yet, so you average daily bill is nearer £6.

Those figures are what he's made up!

 

He won't post the figures his energy supplier has sent him by email or post which shows the previous amount and the new figure.

[CurtainRaiser]

£250,000,000 for the new Royal Yacht, a Chancellor whose wife doesn't pay UK taxes on the £12,000,000 dividend from her Russian investment, the only growth industry are food banks. Crisis, what crisis?

[CurtainRaiser]

Gremlin - 2022-04-06 12:34 PM

 

CurtainRaiser - 2022-04-06 11:12 AM

 

Gremlin - 2022-04-06 10:35 AM

 

Well our Tesla battery works for us.

 

We also have a gizmo that takes spare and dumps it in our hot water tank - free hot water!!

 

The idiot assessor said we should have a combi boiler and no tank. Total prat he was.

 

Edit - apologies - this in response to battery Q

 

I call BS, like most liars you can't keep up with your own lies.

 

On the 7th March in the Nyet Zero thread you said:

 

"I have solar panels - and in order to get the FIT we had to improve our insulation. So we did at considerable expense.

 

I now delight in the fact that I effectively turn my gas boiler off in the summer months because we have a neat little gizmo that diverts some of the excess power we generate to our hot water tank - so we have pretty much constant hot water year round......

 

I’m now looking at a battery system to store power for use at night."

 

 

 

The lead time for a Tesla Powerwall in the UK is "a minimum of three months."

 

You think?

 

Check out Empower Hampshire.

 

We were given a lead time of 10 days. They were keen to fit as no one was buying.

 

 

Edit - I’ve just ckecked - depending on the installation- lead time is, according to Tesla “one week to six months depending on your location.

 

We are existing customers of Empower and have been talking to them on this for over a year.

 

If anyone is full or **it - it is you!

 

You’re childish and hold a grudge. Not a good combination for a man - toddlers get away with it though.

 

Well I must confess when I saw this post yesterday I was dubious, not least because in the first part of the conversation you said "Well our Tesla battery works for us", now any normal person making such an evaluation would do so on the basis of longterm usage, not as you are suggesting after only three weeks useage.

 

But I gave you the benefit of the doubt and contacted Empower yesterday and today they have responded "we haven't been able to get hold of any since last summer because of the chip shortage, lead time for Powerwall is now Q2 '23 in the UK".

 

I can see the appeal of the Tory party to someone like yourself that lies so easily.

[Guest pelmetman]

So far today......

 

Leccy.......£1.31

 

Gas.........£3.26

 

Bargain :D ........

[Barryd999]

Gremlin - 2022-04-08 8:40 AM

 

CurtainRaiser - 2022-04-07 8:13 PM

 

Gremlin - 2022-04-06 12:34 PM

 

CurtainRaiser - 2022-04-06 11:12 AM

 

Gremlin - 2022-04-06 10:35 AM

 

Well our Tesla battery works for us.

 

We also have a gizmo that takes spare and dumps it in our hot water tank - free hot water!!

 

The idiot assessor said we should have a combi boiler and no tank. Total prat he was.

 

Edit - apologies - this in response to battery Q

 

I call BS, like most liars you can't keep up with your own lies.

 

On the 7th March in the Nyet Zero thread you said:

 

"I have solar panels - and in order to get the FIT we had to improve our insulation. So we did at considerable expense.

 

I now delight in the fact that I effectively turn my gas boiler off in the summer months because we have a neat little gizmo that diverts some of the excess power we generate to our hot water tank - so we have pretty much constant hot water year round......

 

I’m now looking at a battery system to store power for use at night."

 

 

 

The lead time for a Tesla Powerwall in the UK is "a minimum of three months."

 

You think?

 

Check out Empower Hampshire.

 

We were given a lead time of 10 days. They were keen to fit as no one was buying.

 

 

Edit - I’ve just ckecked - depending on the installation- lead time is, according to Tesla “one week to six months depending on your location.

 

We are existing customers of Empower and have been talking to them on this for over a year.

 

If anyone is full or **it - it is you!

 

You’re childish and hold a grudge. Not a good combination for a man - toddlers get away with it though.

 

Well I must confess when I saw this post yesterday I was dubious, not least because in the first part of the conversation you said "Well our Tesla battery works for us", now any normal person making such an evaluation would do so on the basis of longterm usage, not as you are suggesting after only three weeks useage.

 

But I gave you the benefit of the doubt and contacted Empower yesterday and today they have responded "we haven't been able to get hold of any since last summer because of the chip shortage, lead time for Powerwall is now Q2 '23 in the UK".

 

I can see the appeal of the Tory party to someone like yourself that lies so easily.

 

I don’t vote for any party - as I’ve said before - I vote for independent candidates having lost any faith in the main political parties.

 

How typical of your tribal outlook that because you tried to fabricate a lie and got royally shafted for your hubristic stupidity - you can only make things better for yourself if you wrongly conclude that I vote “Tory”.

 

You have a child mind, and the emotional age of a toddler.

 

Really? Do tell us who you voted for and in which constituency in the last GE.

 

[Barryd999]

Gremlin - 2022-04-08 9:47 AM

 

Barryd999 - 2022-04-08 9:33 AM

 

Gremlin - 2022-04-08 8:40 AM

 

CurtainRaiser - 2022-04-07 8:13 PM

 

Gremlin - 2022-04-06 12:34 PM

 

CurtainRaiser - 2022-04-06 11:12 AM

 

Gremlin - 2022-04-06 10:35 AM

 

Well our Tesla battery works for us.

 

We also have a gizmo that takes spare and dumps it in our hot water tank - free hot water!!

 

The idiot assessor said we should have a combi boiler and no tank. Total prat he was.

 

Edit - apologies - this in response to battery Q

 

I call BS, like most liars you can't keep up with your own lies.

 

On the 7th March in the Nyet Zero thread you said:

 

"I have solar panels - and in order to get the FIT we had to improve our insulation. So we did at considerable expense.

 

I now delight in the fact that I effectively turn my gas boiler off in the summer months because we have a neat little gizmo that diverts some of the excess power we generate to our hot water tank - so we have pretty much constant hot water year round......

 

I’m now looking at a battery system to store power for use at night."

 

 

 

The lead time for a Tesla Powerwall in the UK is "a minimum of three months."

 

You think?

 

Check out Empower Hampshire.

 

We were given a lead time of 10 days. They were keen to fit as no one was buying.

 

 

Edit - I’ve just ckecked - depending on the installation- lead time is, according to Tesla “one week to six months depending on your location.

 

We are existing customers of Empower and have been talking to them on this for over a year.

 

If anyone is full or **it - it is you!

 

You’re childish and hold a grudge. Not a good combination for a man - toddlers get away with it though.

 

Well I must confess when I saw this post yesterday I was dubious, not least because in the first part of the conversation you said "Well our Tesla battery works for us", now any normal person making such an evaluation would do so on the basis of longterm usage, not as you are suggesting after only three weeks useage.

 

But I gave you the benefit of the doubt and contacted Empower yesterday and today they have responded "we haven't been able to get hold of any since last summer because of the chip shortage, lead time for Powerwall is now Q2 '23 in the UK".

 

I can see the appeal of the Tory party to someone like yourself that lies so easily.

 

I don’t vote for any party - as I’ve said before - I vote for independent candidates having lost any faith in the main political parties.

 

How typical of your tribal outlook that because you tried to fabricate a lie and got royally shafted for your hubristic stupidity - you can only make things better for yourself if you wrongly conclude that I vote “Tory”.

 

You have a child mind, and the emotional age of a toddler.

 

Really? Do tell us who you voted for and in which constituency in the last GE.

 

Hiss off!!! Laughable!!!

 

What right do you think you have you silly little man to demand I answer that? Why do you think voting booths are private?

 

You will just have to take my word for it that I don’t vote for any of the main parties - I vote for Independent candidates.

 

LOL! (lol) Sure you didnt. So a radical independent voter and a remainer!! Wow! I have no problem telling people on here who I vote for. Bishop Auckland constituency. Two horse race. Labour or Tory. I voted Labour for the first time ever.

 

What you maybe dont realise is I used to work for the Tory party. I know who they are, I even used to be one! (lol) If it walks like a duck, Quacks like a duck. So come on. Tell us who you voted for and in which constituency. Whats the big secret? Everyone else on here will tell you their voting record and you had no problem telling us how you voted in the referendum, cough, allegedly.

[Bulletguy]

 

Leave rich wives alone, we only care about knowing where every penny comes from if you are poor, insists Boris Johnson

 

Johnson has waded into the row over Rishi Sunak’s by wife insisting everyone should leave her alone, as the government only has any interest in forensically examining where every penny comes from if your spouse is poor.

 

Boris told reporters, “Akshata has done nothing wrong, I can not stress that enough. Not one law has been broken and that is important to remember.

 

“Rich spouses of high-profile politicians should never be subject to a forensic examination of their finances, such intrusions should be reserved for Universal Credit assessments with the Department of Work and Pensions.”

 

“Those are the only circumstances when someone should have the right to know where every single penny of your income comes from – when you are genuinely poor.”

 

:-|

 

https://tinyurl.com/4475nxem

[John52]

from the FT;

 

"In an interview with The Sun on Thursday, Sunak hit back at the accusations, stating his wife “loves her country like I love mine”, adding “to smear my wife to get at me is awful”.

Sunak said: “It wouldn’t be reasonable or fair to ask her to sever ties with her country because she happens to be married to me. She loves her country. Like I love mine, I would never dream of giving up my British citizenship. And I imagine most people wouldn’t,” Sunak said."

......

Still trying to twist it round to being about her citizenship - and it's nothing to do with that.

She can be a citizen of wherever she likes and it makes no difference.

Its where she has her main home that counts.

And she has actively stated her main home is in another country when she is living in taxpayer funded accommodation in London with her husband and children

when did stating a fact become a smear?

[Bulletguy]

 

An about face! It's only cost her a couple of mill.....pah, thats peanuts.

 

Rishi Sunak's wife to pay UK tax on overseas income

 

Chancellor Rishi Sunak's wife Akshata Murty has said she will pay UK taxes on her overseas income, following a row over her non-domicile status.

 

Her decision to change her tax arrangements follows accusations of hypocrisy against the chancellor, with Labour saying Mr Sunak's family is benefiting at a time when the cost of living is going up and the government he serves in is raising National Insurance payments.

 

The BBC estimates Ms Murty would have avoided £2.1m a year in UK tax through her non-dom status.

[John52]

Bulletguy - 2022-04-08 8:51 PM

An about face! It's only cost her a couple of mill.....pah, thats peanuts.

 

She is still pretending to live somewhere else than her husband (won't say where) so they can choose what taxes they pay, and how long they pay them for. And they get to keep the big one - avoiding inheritance tax. So Johnson's Chancellor for 'levelling up' is defending people inheriting £billions of unearned income tax free, whilst piling stealth and inflation taxes on the little people. >:-)

[CurtainRaiser]

And note she is offering to pay tax on FUTURE earnings, not the £30,000,000 she has avoided so far. And if Rshe is suddenly prepared to hand over several million to keep her husband in a £150k job I think we really need to think about why this might be.

 

A bit like Partygate at least two Sunday newspapers have further info on Rishi Sunak planned. News held back as story built momentum.

 

Meanwhile confirmation that all candidates for the French presidency are in fact French citizens who live in France and pay their taxes here. And only Le Pen has taken money from Putin but that's the norm for rightwing parties.

[John52]

Seems to me that as long as she continues to claim to live separate from her husband (won't say where), they are paying taxes voluntarily like the Queen. So nobody can even look into their tax affairs, let alone charge them with tax evasion. So they can choose what taxes they pay, and stop paying them when attention moves to something else.

Johnson & Co will always defend the right of £billionaires to claim to live elsewhere and avoid UK tax - Or they would lose the support of the 'newspaper' owners that keep them in power.

[CurtainRaiser]

The question that needs to be asked is just what nationality Sunak was when he was meeting US health companies?

 

 

[Bulletguy]

 

The hoops Sunak and his wife have been jumping through is down to sheer greed whilst busily shafting the country and less well off. I don't want anyone like that as Chancellor, or PM......and God knows what we have got is already bad enough.

 

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/rishi-sunak-akshata-murty-tax-haven-b2054179.html

[Barryd999]

I wonder if all this coming out about Sunak is a stitch up from within. It was probably him that took the garden photos of the parties so could be Johnsons revenge or it could be Tufton street as they want Liz Truss as she is thick as mince and an easier puppet to operate. Having said that it looks like they might be sticking with Johnson anyway in order to convince people that Starmer will take their Brexit away.

 

This afternoons conspiracy theories for you. (lol)

[Bulletguy]

Barryd999 - 2022-04-09 6:28 PM

 

I wonder if all this coming out about Sunak is a stitch up from within. It was probably him that took the garden photos of the parties so could be Johnsons revenge or it could be Tufton street as they want Liz Truss as she is thick as mince and an easier puppet to operate. Having said that it looks like they might be sticking with Johnson anyway in order to convince people that Starmer will take their Brexit away.

 

This afternoons conspiracy theories for you. (lol)

It's no CT Barry. Conspiracy for sure but deffo no theory, It's been known a while Sunak wants to be top dog and he probably would have been as Johnson had become too much of a liability, but then Putin invaded Ukraine.

 

This is the right eating its own! It's a power struggle among Blukip top brass whose religion is money and holy shrine, capitalism. Sunaks wife has serious investments in Russia which is at odds with her husband telling British businesses to pull out.

 

[John52]

Barryd999 - 2022-04-09 6:28 PM

 

I wonder if all this coming out about Sunak is a stitch up from within. It was probably him that took the garden photos of the parties so could be Johnsons revenge or it could be Tufton street as they want Liz Truss as she is thick as mince and an easier puppet to operate. Having said that it looks like they might be sticking with Johnson anyway in order to convince people that Starmer will take their Brexit away.

 

This afternoons conspiracy theories for you. (lol)

 

Well yes Sunak always seemed to be away somewhere out of reach when Johnson needed another pooper scooper to support him over partygate (lol)

[CurtainRaiser]

What happens when Cummings and Sunak join forces to bring Johnson down, as I suspect will happen soon?

[John52]

CurtainRaiser - 2022-04-09 10:11 PM

 

What happens when Cummings and Sunak join forces to bring Johnson down, as I suspect will happen soon?

 

Dave will dismiss them both as LOSERS and carry on supporting 'Boris' (lol)

[John52]

Gremlin - 2022-04-10 7:17 AM

 

Sunak .... won’t recover from this.

 

And now he wants an investigation into who “leaked” his info!!

 

Arrogance personified….

 

 

Yes but when you see what Johnson has recovered from I'm not so sure.

It isn't long ago that Sunak was this 'Government' s most popular politician by a mile - because he was giving the plebs their own money to go to the pub and spread the record Covid infections we have now.

If his inquisition identifies and punishes whoever told us about his tax avoidance, then

Maybe he can con folk with another scam like Eat out to Spread it Around to get his popularity back?

Not so far fetched when you consider he has already conned them into thinking he hasn't put their taxes up to make up for what he doesn't pay.

He just needs the continuing support of other £billionaires who claim to live abroad to avoid tax.

- who own the 'newspaper's that tell the likes of Dave what to think :-S

Paint Starmer as a 'Terrorist Sympathiser' like they did Corbyn, and claim it was Starmer who was supporting Thatcher's close personal friend Sir Jimmy Savile OBE KCSG etc

There are still people daft enough to soak it up. :-S