enodreven Posted June 7, 2007 Share Posted June 7, 2007 Hi, Is there a way to see if someone unoffically has/is connected to your Wifi router ?. I have security setup but even when my laptop is turned off sometime the Wifi light on the router stays lit ? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b6x Posted June 7, 2007 Share Posted June 7, 2007 I would guess this would come down to your router make/model. Some routers allow for user-defined security logging levels, and will also display currently attached devices. Why not set up a MAC addresses access list, so only your devices are allowed to connect? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basil Posted June 7, 2007 Share Posted June 7, 2007 Hi enodreven, My wireless light is on all the time on my router, I thought that was normal. Bas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enodreven Posted June 7, 2007 Author Share Posted June 7, 2007 Hi, I have a Belkin ADSL Modem with High Speed Mode Wireless G Router which is wired directly to my home computer and the Wifi light does not normally come on unless i start my laptop and when this connects the Wifi light stays on. However I have noticed that on certain occassions even when the laptop is not being used the Wifi light goes on and off and as I said above while I have security setup for the Wifi connection I was wondering if someone may of been able to circumvent the security and if they have how would you be able to detect if it was happening ? Hope that makes sence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnsandywhite Posted June 7, 2007 Share Posted June 7, 2007 You could try :- http://www.makayama.com/EasyWifiRadar.zip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b6x Posted June 7, 2007 Share Posted June 7, 2007 Another useful security feature worth considering, once you have set up your wi-fi devices, WPA-PSK security, Hardware MAC address access list, and the DHCP server address range to just your devices... consider disabling the "broadcast SSID" option. This'll stop your access point being visable to Joe Public. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sax Posted June 7, 2007 Share Posted June 7, 2007 Hello all. When I had an IT specialist friend set up my system I insisted that access was available at all times whilst I am logged on. During the year, especially summer, many motorhomers pass my home on the way to our seafront and although I do not advertise the fact they are all welcome to pull up and pick up my connection. There is nothing on my machines which is any way sesitive and would trouble me if hacked into. Whilst experimenting, I have driven around and picked up other connections with my laptop. It seems to do no harm and costs nothing to all concerned. You might think I'm a mug, but it suits me. Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enodreven Posted June 7, 2007 Author Share Posted June 7, 2007 Hi, Thanks for the link I have downloaded the program but its installed onto my home computer ? and if i am correct I think I should have installed it on my laptop which I will try later. Am I correct in assuming its a program that will detect Wifi connections that are near ?? only if it is I'm not sure that I have been explaining myself properly ? The question I am really trying to raise is that I would have thought that there would be someway from within the network connections? that would allow you to be able to view everyone that was connected to your own router is this possible? or will the program that I have downloaded allow me to do that ? as it doesnt appear initially to work on my home computer ? johnsandywhite - 2007-06-07 6:32 PM You could try :- http://www.makayama.com/EasyWifiRadar.zip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enodreven Posted June 7, 2007 Author Share Posted June 7, 2007 Hi, Sax No I don't think you are a mug and I appreciate what you are doing. However that is not my question ? I fully understand about picking up free or unprotected Wifi and have connected a number that way a number of times, But the question I am trying to find an answer to is if someone has connected to your open Wifi connection, how do you know ? is it possible to interrogate the router or the network connections on your own computer to see who is connected ?and if it is how do you do it ? sax - 2007-06-07 8:10 PM Hello all. When I had an IT specialist friend set up my system I insisted that access was available at all times whilst I am logged on. During the year, especially summer, many motorhomers pass my home on the way to our seafront and although I do not advertise the fact they are all welcome to pull up and pick up my connection. There is nothing on my machines which is any way sesitive and would trouble me if hacked into. Whilst experimenting, I have driven around and picked up other connections with my laptop. It seems to do no harm and costs nothing to all concerned. You might think I'm a mug, but it suits me. Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basil Posted June 7, 2007 Share Posted June 7, 2007 sax - 2007-06-07 8:10 PM I have driven around and picked up other connections with my laptop. It seems to do no harm and costs nothing to all concerned. You might think I'm a mug, but it suits me. Mike It is worth noting that it is completely unlawful for you to do that without the owners express permission, there have already been several successful prosecutions. Bas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basil Posted June 7, 2007 Share Posted June 7, 2007 enodreven - 2007-06-07 5:58 PM I have a Belkin ADSL Modem with High Speed Mode Wireless G Router Hi enodreven, Mine is also a Belkin high speed Dual Mimo Pre 'N' and as I have said the wireless light is on at all times. According to the instruction manual (when in doubt RTFI) "the light is on, steady, at all times to denote that the wireless signal is available and it will flash when it is being accessed by a wireless connection.", so make of that what you will! Bas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b6x Posted June 7, 2007 Share Posted June 7, 2007 sax - 2007-06-07 8:10 PM I have driven around and picked up other connections with my laptop. It seems to do no harm and costs nothing to all concerned.You might think I'm a mug, but it suits me.Mike With a fixed IP address, ISPs capable of internet IP tracing/logging, and some "weirdos" out there surfing for unsavoury stuff; I personally choose to protect my network. I also have firewalls installed protecting home PC's, however stopping access over the wireless is the first line of defence to for that too. My Netgear router also has the wireless light on permenantly if the wireless radio is turned on and flashes if there is activity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enodreven Posted June 8, 2007 Author Share Posted June 8, 2007 Hi, Bas How can anyone get caught if you can't see if they are doing it ?? It is worth noting that it is completely unlawful for you to do that without the owners express permission, there have already been several successful prosecutions. Bas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnsandywhite Posted June 8, 2007 Share Posted June 8, 2007 enodreven - 2007-06-07 8:17 PM Am I correct in assuming its a program that will detect Wifi connections that are near ?? only if it is I'm not sure that I have been explaining myself properly ? :-S Correct. It will only tell you of any Wifi operating within your area. :-( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnsandywhite Posted June 8, 2007 Share Posted June 8, 2007 B-) You could of course try:- http://www.freedownloadmanager.org/downloads/ManageEngine_WiFi_Manager_21025_p/ http://manageengine.adventnet.com/products/opmanager/network-monitoring-tool.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basil Posted June 8, 2007 Share Posted June 8, 2007 enodreven - 2007-06-08 9:34 AM Hi, Bas How can anyone get caught if you can't see if they are doing it ?? Hi enodreven, My understanding is that they were caught outside the premises that they were piggy backing by the police, don't know how but I do know that there have been several successful prosecutions. Just found this the first prosecution in the UK, you can read about it here see http://digital-lifestyles.info/2005/07/25/uk-wi-fi-freeloader-fined-500/ Bas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enodreven Posted June 9, 2007 Author Share Posted June 9, 2007 Hi, Bas What concerns me is that we are told that we should/must setup security on our Wifi connections to stop unwelcome people seeing what we are doing or using our wifi connections for unlawful purposes, and we are told that no matter what system of security you setup there are people out there who can get through/bypass the security, but then no one seems to know of a simple way to see if anyone is doing it ?? Just my thoughts, I haven't yet tested the downloads suggested above, but none-the-less even if they work it does seem a rather large sledgehammer to find something that some people are suggesting is commonplace and getting worse ?? Thats my rant for the day Basil - 2007-06-08 10:28 PM enodreven - 2007-06-08 9:34 AM Hi, Bas How can anyone get caught if you can't see if they are doing it ?? Hi enodreven, My understanding is that they were caught outside the premises that they were piggy backing by the police, don't know how but I do know that there have been several successful prosecutions. Just found this the first prosecution in the UK, you can read about it here see http://digital-lifestyles.info/2005/07/25/uk-wi-fi-freeloader-fined-500/ Bas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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