icdsun Posted August 3, 2007 Share Posted August 3, 2007 Hi To all how are having a problem with rainwater getting onto the injectors and other electrical components. This is an interesting video to show your dealer if they tell you "we've never seen that before" Has anyone had the problem rectified yet Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Way2Go Posted August 3, 2007 Share Posted August 3, 2007 Hmmm, that looks pretty worrying.I thought this was a great way to move on wild campers from the local airfield . . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bognormike Posted August 3, 2007 Share Posted August 3, 2007 there have been a couple of threads about this on MHF recently, including the one put up here by a member. It's here http://www.motorhomefacts.com/ftopic-31651-15-days0-orderasc-.html with further comments & a quote from Swift group:- "We have been informed by dept handling motorhomes in Italy that they will be issuing a statement shortly to the press and dealerships what they are going to do about the problem although they say the problem is cosmetic rather than serious would you please pass onto the forum. " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Kirby Posted August 3, 2007 Share Posted August 3, 2007 This fault is reported in the August-September edition of Le Monde du Camping-Car. The understanding they have gained from Fiat in France is that it is a defect Fiat recognises, and that they are considering issuing a re-call letter requesting registered owners to vist an authorised repairer for remedy. Their further advice is that anyone finding rust or standing water in the region of the diesel injectors should notify their nearest Fiat authorised repair centre, and confirm in writing, that the fault exists, and is a recognised warranty issue. Peugeot and Citroen versions share the fault, and are reported to be taking the same line. It is further stated that the fault has been eliminated in production, and that it afflicts only early production vehicles. In the meantime, a workable retro-fit solution is urgently being developed. Fiat are saying in France that they accept the fault is one of original construction, and accordingly will not be falling back upon their two years warranty (Europe outside UK) limitation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icdsun Posted August 3, 2007 Author Share Posted August 3, 2007 Hi We collect our new van on Sunday, on inspection it appears that it has not changed on our build, there was a small amount of water in the recess by the injectors, the volume of RHD models is obviously a lot lower so it maybe sometime before the UK spec is changed at the factory. I have registered the complaint with my dealer,Fiat,Burstner and on Monday will also to Trading Standards as a precautionary measure should this fiasco continue on. Other than that our new MH is great, we inspected the van before the PDI was carried out, 3 very minor items needed attention but these are now remedied. from other posts on here Burstner must have had a very good few weeks with lots of new owners, happily most are able to use their vans straightaway, which is as it should be. Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michele Posted October 2, 2007 Share Posted October 2, 2007 Hi folks after reading alot of what has gone wrong would anyone care to let us know whats happening and if you have had it rectified. ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puerto Posted October 2, 2007 Share Posted October 2, 2007 hi all, i know this may be a daft question, but what year van is this on?? is it the new shape van or old shape van?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michele Posted October 2, 2007 Share Posted October 2, 2007 Fiat X2/50 new ones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigal55 Posted October 2, 2007 Share Posted October 2, 2007 Way2Go - 2007-08-03 11:35 AMHmmm, that looks pretty worrying.I thought this was a great way to move on wild campers from the local airfield . . . . thats easyjet for you, this is a email, posted earlier on a similar thread that i sent to fiat and swift ........i have an ace milano motor home based on a fiat ducato 100 mutijet purchased new on 03.09.07.water is pouring into the engine bay from the scuttle, 1, the join in the center of the scuttle is not water tight 2; the road where the vehicle is parked has a slight camber, as per most British roads water overflows the scuttle long before the water level has reached the only drain hole on the drivers side, the water then flows over the fuse box. 3; the scuttle only seals against the windscreen for 50% of its length, again water pours into the engine bay. i have contacted fiat m-home specialists essenjay of poole and they advise that there is no fix at the moment, corrosion has already started on the engine and its components and can only get worse yours a brown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tp002c784tp002c784tp Posted October 2, 2007 Share Posted October 2, 2007 Whilst looking for a new van at the York show I asked 4 different dealers about the water ingress on there new Fiats, All said they had never heard of the problem ( surprise surprise ) I only had a chance to look at one new Fiat engine compartment the dealer/salesman said there would not be any water on the engine, when I pointed out the pools on the cylinder head bolts he said that will just be condensation, I lost interest in this vehicle even though I know they ( Fiat ) are going to fix it the salesman could have been more honest :D Terry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michele Posted October 2, 2007 Share Posted October 2, 2007 Terry, How do you know that Fiat are going to fix it What do you know that everyone else dont know come on spill the beans ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelly58 Posted October 2, 2007 Share Posted October 2, 2007 My new Peugeot based motorhome had the usual water ingress problem I mentioned it to my local Peugeot dealer when it went in for its 1st service and they said they would report the problem to Peugeot.2 weeks later they phoned me to arrange to have a new scuttle fitted as agreed by Peugeot gave me the use of a courtesey car for the day problem solved.Kelly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigal55 Posted October 2, 2007 Share Posted October 2, 2007 kelly58 - 2007-10-02 8:35 PMMy new Peugeot based motorhome had the usual water ingress problem I mentioned it to my local Peugeot dealer when it went in for its 1st service and they said they would report the problem to Peugeot.2 weeks later they phoned me to arrange to have a new scuttle fitted as agreed by Peugeot gave me the use of a courtesey car for the day problem solved.Kellyis the fix working thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelly58 Posted October 2, 2007 Share Posted October 2, 2007 Yes there has not been any water ingress into the engine compartment since it was fixedKelly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michele Posted October 2, 2007 Share Posted October 2, 2007 Nice one Kelly glad you have it sorted .. Good old pug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tp002c784tp002c784tp Posted October 3, 2007 Share Posted October 3, 2007 michele - 2007-10-02 7:47 PM Terry, How do you know that Fiat are going to fix it What do you know that everyone else dont know come on spill the beans ;-) Hi young Michele I do not know for definate that Fiat are going to fix the water leaks, but from the information I have read on this Forum and other Motorhome forums Fiat have now reconised that there is a problem and will have a Mod. out by mid October, but will not be done on a re-call basis will only be done if you take your vehicle in to your Fiat dealer. As it happens my new vehicle is on the previous model Fiat, I am not keen on buying a new model until all the teething troubles have been ironed out, but this applys to all vehicles cars as well as Motorhomes, not that I am likely to buy another new van unless Camelot help me out, I did win this week although just enough to buy a new fuel cap (lol) I know the new Lunar Roadstar is on the old Fiat Ducato but it is a much tried and tested vehicle with I hope all the faults sorted out. :-D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urbanracer Posted October 3, 2007 Share Posted October 3, 2007 What did they do to fix it that information should be priceless at the moment can you get the details from your dealer and take some pictures. Has it rained since the repair was done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michele Posted October 3, 2007 Share Posted October 3, 2007 She had a new scuttle fitted which is what they are doing as I understand it some sort of drip tray i suppose under the windscreen ????I think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urbanracer Posted October 3, 2007 Share Posted October 3, 2007 Do you know that for a fact?I thought the new one peice scuttle was still not available also the new engine covers. I like lots of others have had the scuttle removed and re-sealed it does not work. If you do not know thw correct answer why do post pointless replies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 1happy Posted October 3, 2007 Share Posted October 3, 2007 kelly58 - 2007-10-02 8:35 PMMy new Peugeot based motorhome had the usual water ingress problem I mentioned it to my local Peugeot dealer when it went in for its 1st service and they said they would report the problem to Peugeot.2 weeks later they phoned me to arrange to have a new scuttle fitted as agreed by Peugeot gave me the use of a courtesey car for the day problem solved.KellyHi kelly58.You say you have a new scuttle? not a reseal of the split one?I am wondering because I know someone with a Peugeot and they can't even get Peugeot to admit there is a problem.As for The Fiat multijet x250!I have one and am so sick of Fiat & Peugeot stating things like "cosmetic" that I have started a petitionHERE>> http://www.petition.co.uk/water_ingress_to_engine_re_fiat__peugeotThe petition is mainly about our treatment and so all are welcome to sign & support us!Many thanks 1happy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michele Posted October 3, 2007 Share Posted October 3, 2007 Well excuse me Gordon Brown for trying to help ... I wont in future thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelly58 Posted October 4, 2007 Share Posted October 4, 2007 My motorhome was fixed by Taylors Peugeot at Boston they fitted and sealed a new 2 part scuttle under warranty this has fixed the problem with water ingress when the vehicle was returned home I noticed that they had not put the rubber bonnet hinge covers back on ,I rang them to explain regarding the missing covers they found the covers and duly sent a fitter to my home to fit them in their correct place, thats what I call excellent service.. Kelly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michele Posted October 4, 2007 Share Posted October 4, 2007 So Mr Brown , Was it a pointless reply ? I never said a one peice scuttle any where in my post . Next time don't be so curt with your response . There really was no need at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigal55 Posted October 4, 2007 Share Posted October 4, 2007 kelly58 - 2007-10-04 2:11 PM My motorhome was fixed by Taylors Peugeot at Boston they fitted and sealed a new 2 part scuttle under warranty this has fixed the problem with water ingress when the vehicle was returned home I noticed that they had not put the rubber bonnet hinge covers back on ,I rang them to explain regarding the missing covers they found the covers and duly sent a fitter to my home to fit them in their correct place, thats what I call excellent service.. Kellyhas the new scuttle got a drain hole on each side Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelly58 Posted October 5, 2007 Share Posted October 5, 2007 Yes there is a large drain hole at both ends of the scuttle where a large rubber pipe is fixed with a retaining clip there is also a small drain hole under the wiper shaft on the drivers side which can only be seen if you stop the wiper in the upright position this is done by switching the ignition off when the wiper is upright as the hole is quite small it needs cleaning out at regular intervals to allow the water to run away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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