1995 Ducato mirror adjustment

[GregW]

Hello again MOHO people, I'm quite good at mechanicing, but, how do adjust the mirrors ! It is doing my head in! I hope it is complicated as I know someone will reply oh, you just...... and I will shout and stamp my foot.

[Derek Uzzell]

As I said before (and as mentioned here)

it would help to know exactly which model of CI motorhome you own.

Is this the design of mirror that your 1995 Ducato has? 

 

[GregW]

Thanks for replying, it is a Ci Quatro. If it is any help, the mirror is connected like the one in the photo but has a rubber boots as the covers for the arms(like a steering rack gaiter) I also found after digging through the cubby holes a drivers manual for the chassis. It shows electric adjustment but have not found any buttons! I'll go over to where it's parked tomorrow, and have another look.

[Robinhood]

It's probably not fitted with electric adjustment (which was, and still is, an option (though it is invariably fitted nowadays)).

If so, adjustment will be carried out in the time-honoured hit-and-miss manner by manually moving the mirror glass in the casing, with numerous intermediate trips back to the driver's seat to check  😉

[Derek Uzzell]

GregW

I cannot find any online reference to a CI motorhome with the name "Quatro" or "Quattro", though the name has been used by other manufacturers.

This age of Ducato could have mirrors with 'solid' arms (as in the photo I provided) or with the arm covered by a rubber gaiter.

https://ultimatestyling.co.uk/wing-mirror-door-mirror-drivers-side-rh-citroen-relay-fiat-ducato-peugeot-boxer-and-others-ult144-mm

The likelihood in 1995, for 'budget' Ducato-based motorhomes, is that the external mirrors would have NOT have had electric adjustment. As Robinhood has advised, in such cases, the  mirror glass needs to be adjusted manually.

I'm not sure if the position of the arms can also be adjusted (though I assume the mirrors can be manually folded back) but you could CAREFULLY pull back the gaiter next to the body-side and check how the arm connects. This would also allow you to confirm that there is no electrical wiring.

[GregW]

Ah, yes, as far as I can remember, there is no door loom so am pretty sure it's manual adjustment. I've tried to move the whole mirror as a unit, but have held off trying to push the actual mirror around. I'm dropping over to the van later so will give the mirror a bit of a tweak. Many thanks for replying. (we are going to overnight in it on Friday, parked in our friends garden! What can go wrong?)

[GregW]

Ah Ha, sorted, just had to ease the actual mirror glass around. I think I've been over complicating it!

[Derek Uzzell]

This image suggests that it MAY be possible the move the head of the mirror as well as the glass.

(Is your motohome left- or right-hand drive?)

[GregW]

Its left hand drive, we live in France. The actual mirror mount appears to be pretty rigid, I think it will take quit a knock to fold it back, I'll have a look later and also take a photo of the name of it, I'm sure it is a Ci Quattro on a Ducato 10 chassis

[Keithl]

is it possibly a Ci CAPRIO ?

[Derek Uzzell]

Or a CI "CIPRO"...

[GregW]

Have looked, def a Ci Quatro, I wonder if Quatro was was named for the French Market? I have a Honda Helix scooter but in France it is called Spazio. Different markets different names?

[Derek Uzzell]

There are several reasons for the name of a vehicle (or brand) to be 'market sensitive'. The French Challenger motorhome brand was imported to the UK for a very short time, but  Swift (that produced caravans in the UK with the Challenger name) legally stopped this. A name in one language may be unattractive (or comical) in another - the classic example was a Toyota sports-car named MR in France, but MR2 elsewhere. MR2 (pronounced "em-er-duh" in France) sounds like the French word "merdeux" and would hardly have benefited sales.

"Quatro" and "Quattro" are not French words, though "Quatro" is Portuguese for "four".

Photos of 1995 CI motorhomes generally show the name and model number prominently (example below) but that's not universally the case.

https://www.motorhomedepot.com/vehicle/ci-granduca

I've known motorhome owners to repaint their vehicle and rename it and there have been stolen motorhomes that, when finally recovered, bore only a passing external resemblance paintwork/decal-wise.

Perhaps your CI is unique - how long have you owned it?

 

[GregW]

I've only had it 3 weeks. Will photo it later, it looks like the original decal, and I assume it's Quattro as it will sleep 4 people (only seatbelts for 2 though!!)

[GregW]

Here's a photo, as I said, its a 'French' one never been out of France apparently.