Jon B Posted November 20 Posted November 20 Trying to figure out how to fix the cushions to the poppers so they stay in place. Also some of the seat hard tops slide open during travel. Any sugestions? Quote
Derek Uzzell Posted November 20 Posted November 20 Welcome to the Out&AboutLive forums, Jon. I'm not familiar with the 874 model, but this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXAz9IucKe8 indicates that it has a complex 'flexible' seating arrangement where the front side-settees can be converted into forwards-facing travel seats or into a bed. It's possible that a forum-member may own a 874 model and be able to advise based on practical experience, but (I hesitate to say this) if I had spent the amount of money that a 874 costs, I'd expect the dealership that sold the vehicle to go out of their way to help you. I've looked at this 2024 Swift Group handbook https://www.swiftgroup.co.uk/media/wfzhtqes/2024-motorhome-owners-handbook.pdf and this includes advice (Page 175/176) on the Aguti "Smart Lounge" and how to make up the travel seats, but doesn't seem to answer your questions directly. This video may also be of interest https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8oXz-YAFVHc (My last motorhome - a 2015 Rapido 640F - had a front lounge comprising two side-settees that could be converted into a lateral bed or two forwards-facing travel seats. It was a Heath Robinson arrangement that involved a heavy supplementary backrest being fitted and, when the travel seats had been assembled, the cushions were never properly 'tethered'. I always thought the Rapido staff must have been on LSD the day they designed this set-up, or were having a cruel joke at the buyers' expense.) Quote
Derek Uzzell Posted November 20 Posted November 20 Rather than a Kon-Tiki 874, this video relates to the smaller 784 model, but I believe the latter has a similar design of front lounge. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjNrRDh1AE0 About 10 minutes in, converting the side-settees into a bed begins to be described (!!!) and I think the 'poppers' you've mentioned are the things on 'tabs' on the back-rest cushions that attach to stud-fixings on the upright board behind the those cushions. I have arrowed some of the stud-fixings on the image below. I'm far from sure that the way the 784's owner has arranged the cushions to form the bed is how Swift envisaged it being done, but I don't think there is any guidance in the Kon-Tiki Manual about this. Further on in the video (at around the 24-minute mark) is a demonstration of how the forwards-facing travel seats are constructed.and this looks to be a better executed arrangement than my Rapido's. Quote
Den Posted November 20 Posted November 20 Can Velcro of the commercial type be used. mots ised throughout hospitals to hold mattresses on beds and I use it to mount paper towel dispensers in my workshop and MG garage along with surround speakers at home. Quote
Derek Uzzell Posted November 21 Posted November 21 Den If you look at the video in my last posting, you'll see that, for these Kon-Tiki models, Swift uses a mixture of Velcro and 'poppers/studs' to hold the seat cushions in place. The seat cushions of my 2015 Rapido were retained by wide heavy-duty Velcro strips. While this was certainly effective, removing the cushions to gain access to the storage compartments in the seat bases was far from easy. I removed the original Velcro and replaced it with narrower, less aggressive Velcro strips that still kept the cushions in place adequately, but did not require gorilla-strength to remove them. I'm unsure where Jon B's problems lie... It seems clear from the videos how the seat-back cushions 'popper fixings' work, so perhaps he is saying that these do not hold those cushions firmly in place - in which case adding some Velcro to the seat-back and to the seat-back cushions should be a simple fix. I don't know what "the seat hard tops" that slide open during travel are, so it's impossible to suggest how best to stop this happening. If Jon provides photos, that should help. This forum discussion related to a 2014 Kon-Tiki, but some of the comments/observations should still be relevant. https://forums.outandaboutlive.co.uk/topic/36534-swift-kon-tiki-679-front-bed/ Quote
Derek Uzzell Posted November 21 Posted November 21 The images below show the day/night layouts of a 2024 Swift Kon-Tiki 874. As converting the side-seating in the front lounge into a bed uses the height-adjustable table as the bed's base, it's more likely that the "seat hard tops" that are sliding open during travel relate to the second set of side-seating in the motorhome's rear. This video shows how to make up the front-lounge bed rationally (!!!) and also the rear bed that does indeed have 'slide outs'. (More information from Jon B needed, even my AI-enhanced crystal-ball is struggling with this enquiry.) Quote
Jon B Posted Wednesday at 09:46 Author Posted Wednesday at 09:46 Dealer offered to fit holding straps FOC. Bought some velcro and going to try that as going to use velcro to secure stuff in garage. Quote
Derek Uzzell Posted Wednesday at 10:43 Posted Wednesday at 10:43 So where are the "seat hard tops" that are sliding open during travel? Will the dealer also be dealing with that issue? Quote
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