Guest starspirit Posted October 6, 2007 Share Posted October 6, 2007 Well not actually regulators - more the regulator pigtail - but as it is related it can't hurt to link it. We had a failure of gas supply on a new bottle last week and it turned out to be a blocked pigtail. It seems one of the pigtails (we have two bottles linked via a 'T' piece to facilitate changeover at night and/or in the rain) has a built in one way non return valve and t'other don't. The non valved one was perfectly clear but the non return valve on the naughty one was stuck. A quick shove up the inlet hole with a thin nail got it going again but it stuck again soon after. Easily cured as the valve is retained by a threaded insert removable with an Allen Key - so I removed the ball and spring and all is now well again. I can see the point of a non return valve in some set ups but as we turn each bottle off when empty and only on when needed I think we can manage without. I wonder whether the lack of a non return valve would allow the Calor bottle to refill if I had it in tandem with a Gaslow or similar refillable bottle and left the tap open when refilling the refillable. I also wonder why there are no different markings on either pigtail to denote the presence or otherwise of a non return valve. Has anyone tried it and if so does the Calor bottle cut off at 80% I wonder? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trooper Posted October 6, 2007 Share Posted October 6, 2007 I think you will find that only gas will transfer,so no chance of filling cilinder I have filled cylinders, safely but I better not say on here how,by the way I am an ex heating engineer amongst other things, cheers :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mel E Posted October 8, 2007 Share Posted October 8, 2007 Standard exchangeable gas bottles do not have auto-fill shut-off at 80%. They don't need it because they are filled by a machine that measures the gas in. Surely, refilling a gas bottle not purpose designed for the job is akin to looking for a leak in a Saturn V moon rocket using a lighted match? Mel E ==== Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trooper Posted October 8, 2007 Share Posted October 8, 2007 Hi Mel e I see you have no E mail listed so I could answer your stupid comment privately, anyway please make derogatory comments when you know the facts. cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davenewellhome Posted October 8, 2007 Share Posted October 8, 2007 trooper - 2007-10-08 7:07 PM Hi Mel e I see you have no E mail listed so I could answer your stupid comment privately, anyway please make derogatory comments when you know the facts. cheers If you wish to reply privately why not use the PM facility? No real need for e-mail addresses to be disclosed is there? Anyway, I agree with Mel! D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trooper Posted October 8, 2007 Share Posted October 8, 2007 Sorry Dave I'm new at this and ain't sure of all the protocol, It doesnt alter the facts, if you do not know, another persons experience, one should not insult them, I thought you knew better, regards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davenewellhome Posted October 8, 2007 Share Posted October 8, 2007 Where's the insult? In general to refill a cylinder with LPG that was not designed to be filled by the general public is surely folly? OK so you are an EX gas engineer, that doesn't necessarily mean you are competent to refill cylinders not intended to be refilled does it? D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest starspirit Posted October 9, 2007 Share Posted October 9, 2007 Can I just point out that I have absolutely no intention of filling a Calor Gas bottle this way as I consider it both a dangerous and stupid way of seeking a catastrophe. I had forgotten about the difference between gas and liquid gas and I thank you for the clarification It was a semi rhetorical semi jokey question and I expected a response from those who know - but I don't understand why people have to be rude and insulting to each other without provocation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trooper Posted October 9, 2007 Share Posted October 9, 2007 Its all in the wieght Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest starspirit Posted October 9, 2007 Share Posted October 9, 2007 I'm waiting? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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