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userBulletguy
Posted: 25 January 2020 4:43 PM
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With the Coronavirus outbreak gathering pace with 41 deaths and 830 confirmed cases, China is building a brand new 1000 bed hospital in a staggering six days.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-51245156

Less than a day after construction started, they announced plans for a second 1300 bed hospital dedicated to coronavirus patients.

https://metro.co.uk/2020/01/25/china-build-second-new-hospital-cope-killer-coronavirus-outbreak-12121352/

Meantime back in September; https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/boris-johnsons-40-new-hospitals-20327320

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Posted: 25 January 2020 5:41 PM
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What a sad , lonely , desperate thing you are ... Utterly shameful once again to take tragedy and bash your anti-Tory drum ... Microwave tea for 1 yet again
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Posted: 8 February 2020 1:50 PM
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It now appears that this is no hospital, but a isolation building, there is no medical treatment as we would know it. You are locked up in there to live or die.
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Posted: 8 February 2020 2:03 PM
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colin - 2020-02-08 1:50 PM

It now appears that this is no hospital, but a isolation building, there is no medical treatment as we would know it. You are locked up in there to live or die.



I think it was clear from the start that they were pre-fabricated buildings set up as isolation units.

Just like a large dormitory.

Much like the old TB sanitoriums we used to have many years ago.

userBulletguy
Posted: 8 February 2020 3:36 PM
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This one was built from ground up using 7000 workers. Ten days later it was fully equipped, operational and ready to receive patients.

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/02/07/asia/wuhan-coronavirus-hospital-design-intl-hnk/index.html

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/china-s-coronavirus-hospital-built-10-days-opens-its-doors-n1128531

Over four months ago Johnson pledged to build "40 new hospitals" (not refurbs) he called “biggest hospital-building programme in a generation”, yet to my knowledge not one footing has been dug or brick laid. Seems his 'promise' comes with conditions (bribery)......of two terms of office. Only six are in the pipeline for the next five years and each are just refurbs.

https://morningstaronline.co.uk/article/b/johnsons-promise-40-new-hospitals-would-only-really-result-six

What isn't so good for China is the death of the doctor who tried to warn about the outbreak of the virus

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-51409801
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Posted: 8 February 2020 3:43 PM
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Fancy taking the humanitarian emergency of coronavirus and turning it into a bashing stick used on our Government ... Mind I seem to remember the same fella doing the same with the Grenfell tragedy ... How very sad
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Posted: 8 February 2020 4:20 PM
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Bulletguy - 2020-02-08 3:36 PM

This one was built from ground up using 7000 workers. Ten days later it was fully equipped, operational and ready to receive patients.

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/02/07/asia/wuhan-coronavirus-hospital-design-intl-hnk/index.html

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/china-s-coronavirus-hospital-built-10-days-opens-its-doors-n1128531

Over four months ago Johnson pledged to build "40 new hospitals" (not refurbs) he called “biggest hospital-building programme in a generation”, yet to my knowledge not one footing has been dug or brick laid. Seems his 'promise' comes with conditions (bribery)......of two terms of office. Only six are in the pipeline for the next five years and each are just refurbs.

https://morningstaronline.co.uk/article/b/johnsons-promise-40-new-hospitals-would-only-really-result-six

What isn't so good for China is the death of the doctor who tried to warn about the outbreak of the virus

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-51409801



I doubt if any democracy can compete with a dictatorship when it comes to building hospitals at speed.

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Posted: 8 February 2020 5:31 PM
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Birdbrain - 2020-02-08 3:43 PM

Fancy taking the humanitarian emergency of coronavirus and turning it into a bashing stick used on our Government ... Mind I seem to remember the same fella doing the same with the Grenfell tragedy ... How very sad


I suppose that a man needs a hobby ..... and it keeps him off the streets.

So it's a win win.
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Posted: 8 February 2020 5:51 PM
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747 - 2020-02-08 5:31 PM

Birdbrain - 2020-02-08 3:43 PM

Fancy taking the humanitarian emergency of coronavirus and turning it into a bashing stick used on our Government ... Mind I seem to remember the same fella doing the same with the Grenfell tragedy ... How very sad


I suppose that a man needs a hobby ..... and it keeps him off the streets.

So it's a win win.


His hobby seems to be me ... I'm like family I suppose
userJohn52
Posted: 8 February 2020 6:20 PM
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I read the Chinese built 25 cities whilst Britain argued about another strip of Tarmac at Heathrow.
But its like the Romans building straight roads I suppose.
They were a conquering army, so no need to bother about who the land belonged to, who would be affected and need to be consulted, NIMBY protests, planning permissions, getting estimates, drawing up contracts etc etc.
They just did it.
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Posted: 8 February 2020 6:22 PM
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Birdbrain - 2020-02-08 3:43 PM

Fancy taking the humanitarian emergency of coronavirus and turning it into a bashing stick used on our Government ... Mind I seem to remember the same fella doing the same with the Grenfell tragedy ... How very sad


What a flap you are in....flu has infected millions and hundreds of thousands die each year. Coronavirus has infected 20,000 with 400 deaths to date. Stop flapping.
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Posted: 8 February 2020 6:40 PM
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jumpstart - 2020-02-08 6:22 PM

Birdbrain - 2020-02-08 3:43 PM

Fancy taking the humanitarian emergency of coronavirus and turning it into a bashing stick used on our Government ... Mind I seem to remember the same fella doing the same with the Grenfell tragedy ... How very sad


What a flap you are in....flu has infected millions and hundreds of thousands die each year. Coronavirus has infected 20,000 with 400 deaths to date. Stop flapping.


Que ??? ... I'm in a flap for pointing out your boyfriends vile attempt at political point scoring over death again ... Your looking like a silly billy again
userBulletguy
Posted: 8 February 2020 8:12 PM
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malc d - 2020-02-08 4:20 PM

Bulletguy - 2020-02-08 3:36 PM

This one was built from ground up using 7000 workers. Ten days later it was fully equipped, operational and ready to receive patients.

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/02/07/asia/wuhan-coronavirus-hospital-design-intl-hnk/index.html

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/china-s-coronavirus-hospital-built-10-days-opens-its-doors-n1128531

Over four months ago Johnson pledged to build "40 new hospitals" (not refurbs) he called “biggest hospital-building programme in a generation”, yet to my knowledge not one footing has been dug or brick laid. Seems his 'promise' comes with conditions (bribery)......of two terms of office. Only six are in the pipeline for the next five years and each are just refurbs.

https://morningstaronline.co.uk/article/b/johnsons-promise-40-new-hospitals-would-only-really-result-six

What isn't so good for China is the death of the doctor who tried to warn about the outbreak of the virus

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-51409801



I doubt if any democracy can compete with a dictatorship when it comes to building hospitals at speed.


The difference is Malc one is a pathological liar who makes promises he cannot deliver on whilst the other simply gets on with the job of doing.

It's also interesting to look at our import/export record with China. In 2018 we exported just £22.6 billion of goods and services whilst we imported a whopping £44.7 billion from them. https://researchbriefings.parliament.uk/ResearchBriefing/Summary/CBP-7379
Seems we also need them to build Hinkley nuclear plant and rescue our steel industry....even black cab taxis are now Chinese owned. So much for "taking back control" eh?
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Posted: 8 February 2020 8:59 PM
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Birdbrain - 2020-02-08 6:40 PM

jumpstart - 2020-02-08 6:22 PM

Birdbrain - 2020-02-08 3:43 PM

Fancy taking the humanitarian emergency of coronavirus and turning it into a bashing stick used on our Government ... Mind I seem to remember the same fella doing the same with the Grenfell tragedy ... How very sad


What a flap you are in....flu has infected millions and hundreds of thousands die each year. Coronavirus has infected 20,000 with 400 deaths to date. Stop flapping.


Que ??? ... I'm in a flap for pointing out your boyfriends vile attempt at political point scoring over death again ... Your looking like a silly billy again


Just another childish response with more insults.
userBirdbrain
Posted: 9 February 2020 7:03 AM
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jumpstart - 2020-02-08 8:59 PM

Birdbrain - 2020-02-08 6:40 PM

jumpstart - 2020-02-08 6:22 PM

Birdbrain - 2020-02-08 3:43 PM

Fancy taking the humanitarian emergency of coronavirus and turning it into a bashing stick used on our Government ... Mind I seem to remember the same fella doing the same with the Grenfell tragedy ... How very sad


What a flap you are in....flu has infected millions and hundreds of thousands die each year. Coronavirus has infected 20,000 with 400 deaths to date. Stop flapping.


Que ??? ... I'm in a flap for pointing out your boyfriends vile attempt at political point scoring over death again ... Your looking like a silly billy again


Just another childish response with more insults.


No real answer ... Like I said silly billy
usercolin
Posted: 9 February 2020 11:20 AM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjHdzv0zTao
https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/3870468
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Posted: 9 February 2020 3:46 PM
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Colin.....the first is an odd source. First thing i questioned is why the reporter speaks with a noticeable US/Canadian accent despite her obvious Chinese appearance. May have something to do with the fact their HQ is based in New York. Gets a bit more weird when i found NTD TV is founded by a group of Chinese-American Falun Gong practitioners, a cult like 'religion' which supports social conservatism, segregated paradises and anti-communism, so that explains the attraction to a western audience, in particular conservative Americans. in essence, it is a mouthpiece of ‘Falun Gong’ in cult and anti-China propaganda.

The Taiwan News link holds more credibility and on media fact checking, rates as the least biased source. Reporting since 1949 with its HQ based at Taiwan. https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/taiwan-news/

The problem with this virus outbreak is just what is China supposed to do? Isolate, contain and treat....or do nothing and allow folks to wander freely around? It seems to me very much a case of damned when they do and damned if they don't. A cruise ship that docked in Italy a couple of weeks ago was quarantined with 6000 passengers on board due to a husband and wife passengers from Macau who had fallen ill with a high fever. They've since been cleared and all passengers released....but not until the Italian authorities were satisfied. I don't see that as an over reaction by the Italians, but a sensible one though not before the Mayor had clashed with the harbour master!

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jan/30/6000-passengers-stuck-on-cruise-ship-in-italy-over-coronavirus-fears

Italy is flying 60 Italians back home from Wuhan to be quarantined in "a military facility" for two weeks. Lets hope when they land they do things differently to UK when we flew Brits back from China, the passengers arrived wearing paper face masks - useless - with each coach accompanied by a 'guard' in full Hazmat gear.....but the poor coach drivers appear to have drawn the short straw!



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Posted: 9 February 2020 3:59 PM
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I know exactly what the sources are that I linked to, Falun Gong in particular not liked by the Chinese State as they advocate greater human rights in China, some of the reported atrocities committed against them are pretty horrific.
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Posted: 9 February 2020 5:46 PM
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colin - 2020-02-09 3:59 PM

I know exactly what the sources are that I linked to, Falun Gong in particular not liked by the Chinese State as they advocate greater human rights in China, some of the reported atrocities committed against them are pretty horrific.


Its repulsive that a member uses China , a country with a terrible human rights record as a bashing stick against our own Government ... Yuk ... We've hit rock bottom me finks
userBulletguy
Posted: 9 February 2020 5:54 PM
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colin - 2020-02-09 3:59 PM

I know exactly what the sources are that I linked to, Falun Gong in particular not liked by the Chinese State as they advocate greater human rights in China, some of the reported atrocities committed against them are pretty horrific.

The question still remains though Colin, just what are China supposed to do....quarantine by containing and treat, or just let folk wander freely around? If they did the latter, ie nothing, they'd be widely condemned and rightly so.

And what the hell was going on with those coach drivers and Hazmat man?
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Posted: 9 February 2020 8:25 PM
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Apparently they were advised that they were not at high risk.
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Posted: 9 February 2020 8:45 PM
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jumpstart - 2020-02-09 8:25 PM

Apparently they were advised that they were not at high risk.

Telling the exposed drivers they aren't at high risk only to plonk a guy in full Hazmat gear next to them hardly instills confidence!
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Posted: 9 February 2020 10:22 PM
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Another cruise ship with 3,700 passengers now quarantined in Japan with 61 people diagnosed and removed, the rest have to stay onboard to complete their quarantine.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=4&v=tzR2G0WOvww&feature=emb_title
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Posted: 9 February 2020 11:37 PM
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Blimey.....five Brits who hadn't been to China, now tested positive in the French Alps.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2qhkz3xxwcw
userBulletguy
Posted: 10 February 2020 9:21 PM
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A GP practice in Brighton temporarily closed down after a staff member tested positive for coronavirus.

The Department of Health has called the virus a "serious and imminent threat" to public health, but the overall risk to the population is "moderate".

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51447761
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