Hymer C 9. Posted November 13, 2007 Share Posted November 13, 2007 Dont know if its me but it seems to be taking a age to go from one thread to another, anyone else having a problem. Carol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GJH Posted November 13, 2007 Share Posted November 13, 2007 I'm not having any problems. You haven't had your computer fitted with one of them new speed retarders have you? (lol) Graham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hymer C 9. Posted November 13, 2007 Author Share Posted November 13, 2007 No Graham nothing different but its taking a age. must be the lap top think it may need a service if no one else is having problems must be me. thanks anyway Carol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J9withdogs Posted November 13, 2007 Share Posted November 13, 2007 Forum's not running at all on my PC - my hard-drive's just given up the ghost :-( That means I can't logoff either, so I'm doomed to haunt the forum for ever *-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hymer C 9. Posted November 13, 2007 Author Share Posted November 13, 2007 Ooooo whats going on Janine spooky 8-) 8-) :D Carol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mel B Posted November 13, 2007 Share Posted November 13, 2007 Carole Try running a programme called 'Crap Cleaner' to take out the ... crap funnily enough ... from your hard drive, similarly then run a defragging programme. You'll probably find that helps a bit. :-D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J9withdogs Posted November 13, 2007 Share Posted November 13, 2007 Is there a programme for raising a hard-drive from the dead *-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GJH Posted November 13, 2007 Share Posted November 13, 2007 J9withdogs - 2007-11-13 8:00 PM Is there a programme for raising a hard-drive from the dead *-) Is the hard drive really dead or just not booting into the OS? If it is the latter then you should be able to re-format it and reload the OS. If it really seems to be dead and it contains must have files then there are companies which can resurrect drives - but they are expensive. A cheaper alternative (though by no means guaranteed to work) is to bash the drive on a concrete floor - might just free up something stuck - and then install it in another machine as a slave to extract the files. Sounds drastic but I have seen it done by techie colleagues when I worked in IT. On no account take the drive to bits because that will definitely cream cracker it. To guarantee beating identity theft before dumping the disk, place on a concrete floor, don safety goggles and belt it several times with a sledge hammer. Graham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J9withdogs Posted November 13, 2007 Share Posted November 13, 2007 Wow - drastic measures! I have my pet computer man working on it as we speak (I seem to have 'pet' for all circumstances!) I do have back-ups of most of my work so just a minor inconvenience, I hope. As long as you guys don't think that I am on here 24/7 - I do have a life! (lol) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davenewellhome Posted November 13, 2007 Share Posted November 13, 2007 Sorry Graham but I do not agree with your suggestion to "smack it on a hard concrete floor" unless you.......... A/ Really have tried everything else with no luck, or...... B/ Really know what you are doing, or....... C/ just want to destroy a drive completely. The disc itself is quite fragile as are the read/write heads and smacking it on a hard surface will almost certainly render it completely FUBAR. Data recovery can be done by most decent computer shops nowadays, I recently had to have it done :$ but I learned the hard way and back up daily now. Anyway they managed to retrieve almost all of my data and thankfully all of the really important stuff and it only cost me £45 inc VAT. D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hymer C 9. Posted November 13, 2007 Author Share Posted November 13, 2007 Mel B - 2007-11-13 7:49 PM Carole Try running a programme called 'Crap Cleaner' to take out the ... crap funnily enough ... from your hard drive, similarly then run a defragging programme. You'll probably find that helps a bit. .......................................................................................................................... Mel where will I find my Crap cleaner (In as polite way as possible) Carol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J9withdogs Posted November 13, 2007 Share Posted November 13, 2007 Graham wasn't far wrong - quick trip down to my mates did my PC the world of good. It worked perfectly by the time it got there! Perhaps it just wanted to get out more ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GJH Posted November 13, 2007 Share Posted November 13, 2007 davenewell@home - 2007-11-13 8:28 PM Sorry Graham but I do not agree with your suggestion to "smack it on a hard concrete floor" unless you.......... A/ Really have tried everything else with no luck, or...... B/ Really know what you are doing, or....... C/ just want to destroy a drive completely. The disc itself is quite fragile as are the read/write heads and smacking it on a hard surface will almost certainly render it completely FUBAR. Yes Dave, I agree - and I did say if it really seems to be dead :-D . I was amazed when I first saw it done - but the guys who did it were experienced hardware people who I'd worked with for years. davenewell@home - 2007-11-13 8:28 PM Data recovery can be done by most decent computer shops nowadays, I recently had to have it done :$ but I learned the hard way and back up daily now. Anyway they managed to retrieve almost all of my data and thankfully all of the really important stuff and it only cost me £45 inc VAT. That's certainly a good price, a lot less than I've seen quoted previously. If I ever get into that position I'll set the Tom Tom for Telford :D As you say, a regular backup regime is the best way to avoid problems. Good to see that Janine got the problem sorted anyway. I'm sure there is no significance in the fact that she took it to a computer Man *-) Graham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J9withdogs Posted November 13, 2007 Share Posted November 13, 2007 GJH - 2007-11-13 11:06 PM Good to see that Janine got the problem sorted anyway. I'm sure there is no significance in the fact that she took it to a computer Man *-) Graham But dahling, I never said that men didn't have their uses :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michele Posted November 13, 2007 Share Posted November 13, 2007 Such as fussing washing cooking shopping ironing ...etc etc etc Shall we dance :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J9withdogs Posted November 13, 2007 Share Posted November 13, 2007 What you on, Michele - can I have some?? :D :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michele Posted November 13, 2007 Share Posted November 13, 2007 I was sticking up for you in the battle of the sexes . In answer to what am I on I'm on love and happyness baby . :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J9withdogs Posted November 13, 2007 Share Posted November 13, 2007 Good for you girl - enjoy :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davenewellhome Posted November 14, 2007 Share Posted November 14, 2007 "As you say, a regular backup regime is the best way to avoid problems." Yup, did I feel a bit of a prat after preaching exactly that to others then finding I'd neglected to do it myself. An expensive lesson but it could have been so much worse. I now back up to DVD every night before I shut the system down. D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GJH Posted November 14, 2007 Share Posted November 14, 2007 michele - 2007-11-13 11:24 PM washing cooking shopping ironing ...etc etc etc Only a few examples of the range of household management tasks I undertake Michele (lol) Graham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GJH Posted November 14, 2007 Share Posted November 14, 2007 davenewell@home - 2007-11-14 7:14 AM Yup, did I feel a bit of a prat after preaching exactly that to others then finding I'd neglected to do it myself. An expensive lesson but it could have been so much worse. Best I did was over-write a salaries master file on a mainframe. Now that teaches you the value of a good backup :D davenewell@home - 2007-11-14 7:14 AM I now back up to DVD every night before I shut the system down. As well as daily backups of changed files, each week I back up both our main machines to an external hard drive, copy changed files to a second external hard drive and then create a DVD of the main folders. The two external drives and the DVD are kept in separate locations from the PCs in case of fire. When we go away I back everything up to the laptop which we take with us. Graham (Careful not paranoid, honest) (lol) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icelander Posted November 14, 2007 Share Posted November 14, 2007 ..........no.................I ...........d...d.........dont..... think........think s........so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mel B Posted November 14, 2007 Share Posted November 14, 2007 When the techies at work want to wipe a hard drive clean they just stick a great big magnet on the top, they use one out of an old stereo speaker, and leave it for 24 hours, it completely obliterates anything on the drive. Carole - crap cleaner, this is good for removing all your temporary files out and has a registry clean up with takes out old links that don't work etc, basically stuff you don't need anymore but is clogging up your hard drive: http://www.filehippo.com/download_ccleaner Power defragmenter is a good one to use every week to keep your machine in good order, the first time you do it it can take a while to clean up the hard drive, if you then get into the habit of running it every week it hardly takes any time at all and keeps your machine optimised: http://fileforum.betanews.com/detail/Power_Defragmenter/1110989780/1 Both are safe to use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GJH Posted November 14, 2007 Share Posted November 14, 2007 Mel B - 2007-11-14 9:19 PM When the techies at work want to wipe a hard drive clean they just stick a great big magnet on the top, they use one out of an old stereo speaker, and leave it for 24 hours, it completely obliterates anything on the drive. We used to use a de-gausser for cassette tapes about 30 years ago. Did the same job but a lot quicker :-D Graham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazza454 Posted November 15, 2007 Share Posted November 15, 2007 Hi Mel,Is it necessary to install an additional Defragmentor when there is the MS one already available in 2000, XP or Vista? I use it weekly and it seems to work really well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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