Mark Wilkes Posted July 6, 2017 Share Posted July 6, 2017 Hello please can anyone help me. if I put the blower on in the van, Citroen relay, it only works on speed 4 and not 1,2,3 I have checked the fuses and they are OK.please can anyone help me. thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek Uzzell Posted July 6, 2017 Share Posted July 6, 2017 Mark has said that his vehicle is a 2007 Citroen Relay. http://forums.outandaboutlive.co.uk/forums/Motorhomes/Motorhome-Matters/Hello-to-all/47326/ This might mean that it is ‘X250’-based or the preceding model, though it’s quite possible that the heater-blower control is the same for both. A Relay’s heater should be the same as a Peugeot Boxer’s, so this link may be relevant http://www.heaterblowerresistor.co.uk/peugeotboxerbipperheaterresistor.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keninpalamos Posted July 6, 2017 Share Posted July 6, 2017 Hi, sounds like the switch (big round thing) or the resistors have gone (I think that's what they call them) anyway they reduce the power going to the motor in steps so top speed has no resister in the line They could be anywhere, mounted on the motor, switch or a circuit board somewhere. Depends on the year of the vehicle as it is still being made and production started in the early eighties as the C25 (Citreon 2.5 Ton) name change to Relay in '98 or there abouts. The C25 replaced the ealier Citreon H, 1 ton (The corrugated shed) wish I had one now. Sorry gone off subject. Hope that helps ps I must have posted just after you Derek. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul2 Posted July 7, 2017 Share Posted July 7, 2017 I think Derek has the answer in his second link we had this problem on Fiat Doblo's and Peugeot Bipper's. Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keninpalamos Posted July 7, 2017 Share Posted July 7, 2017 paul2 - 2017-07-07 11:04 AM I think Derek has the answer in his second link we had this problem on Fiat Doblo's and Peugeot Bipper's. Paul yep that looks like it. The pic of the melting resister pack might also point to a problem of a worn electric fan motor. Iv'e seen the fusebox by-passed for the heater (late '90's Ducato) and fitted with a blade line fuse. This worked ok on speeds 1 and 2, on 3 it made the fuse holder a little warm and on 4 it started to melt the plastic part of the blade fuse which is what had happened in the fuse box. Remedy was new contacts and correct fuse replaced in the original fuse box, (located in the glove box) and re connected. And a new heater motor, as the worn motor was pulling more power than the system was designed to take. The motor was £70 from a van dealer if i remember correctly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Wilkes Posted July 7, 2017 Author Share Posted July 7, 2017 Thank you all for your advice now all I need to do is get a new resister and find out where it goes and hopefully all will be good again. Thanks again for your help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Wilkes Posted July 8, 2017 Author Share Posted July 8, 2017 I have tried serching the handbook for where the blower resister is located and can't find where it is. Please can Someone let me know in plain simple terms where the thing is. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robinhood Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 The consensus is under/behind the passenger side glovebox (for the X/250). (There are a few posts on here giving that info, but the closest I can get to a description and picture are here: http://www.autosleeper-ownersforum.com/t6790-heater-blower ...and you need to read an scroll down, as the top picture is for an X244). They're normally set into the heater cold-air intake to provide some cooling in use, and you'll undoubtedly have to remove a couple of screws to get the resistor out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Wilkes Posted July 8, 2017 Author Share Posted July 8, 2017 thank you. I now have a better idea at what I am looking for. cheers.?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aandncaravan Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 On some cars the cause of the unit burning out is attributed to failure to replace the Cabin Filter which clogs up reducing the cooling airflow. No idea if this is your issue, but maybe check the Cabin Filter, if fitted, and for Leaves or other debris slowing down the airflow while you are in there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Wilkes Posted July 11, 2017 Author Share Posted July 11, 2017 thank you all for your help. I found the resistor and it was as rusty as an old nail, so I bought a new one from Euro parts and now all of the fan settings work as they should. I couldn't of done it without your help so a big thanks to you all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChamFan Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 Just seen your thread and glad your managed to find the resistor. We had a similar problem when we got our van (at 5 years old), and there was more to it than just the resistor. If you haven't already I would also check and change the cabin air filter - it's behind the back of the central storage bin. When this get's clogged the fan has to work harder to maintain its target speed - which is sensed/controlled by the resistor in the airflow - and this pulls more current through the resistor circuit (in positions 1, 2 and 3*). This leads to a higher current through all the wiring, potentially leading to an overheat situation in the connector plug (as per photos attached). In some cases this could lead to a fire - as has been seen in other vehicles (where the fuse has been bypassed without investigation/rectification of the root cause). If you look and find an overheated connector plug, I'd suggest replacing or rewiring it, but changing the resistor without changing the pollen filter could still leave you with a problem down the line. (* In position 0 the fan is off and there is no current, and in position 4 it is 'all-out', so it by-passes the resistor circuit anyway. This will be why you can use 0 and 4, but not 1, 2, and 3). Hope that helps! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
veletron Posted March 31, 2019 Share Posted March 31, 2019 Hi I wonder if anyone has a suggestion OTHER than the blower motor resistor or thermal fuse for the heater not working on positions 1,2,3 (2015 Euro V Ducato). This issue occurred sometime ago, but I have only today got a look at it. The blower motor resistor is in good condition the thermal fuse is fine and the resistances for the three resistors make sense. To test further, I put the fan on position 1, and then shorted between the common and each output on the resistor. One of them should have made the fan spin at full speed. Unfortunately it did not! This points the finger elsewhere - eg its not the blower motor resistors that have failed. The Fan appears to be switched on the -ve 12V, common feed into the blower resistor is ground, the three outputs must go to the fan switch (or perhaps relays?), the position 4 on the motor must be ground via zero resistance. I buzzed between the common -ve input to the fan resistor pack, and the chassis ground, zero ohms or as good as (as expected). I am assuming its the fan switch now. Maybe someone has taken apart their dash and can give me some tips re getting behind the fan switch?! Nigel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
veletron Posted March 31, 2019 Share Posted March 31, 2019 Getting at the heater switch looks like a right pain in the....! One to save for a another day. Maybe I will just bypass the thing with a proper PWM motor controller. https://amzn.to/2WCbZp0 Nigel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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