michele Posted June 26, 2008 Share Posted June 26, 2008 At the weekend I did a trip to Chester to visit my sister who unfortunately was in the Walton Hospital Liverpool . Basically on the way home it started to rain I tried to put on the screen wipers but I had none . It made me doubt that I had hit the right side of the stick so there I was swopping and checking watching my indicators flashing . I couldnt get anything fast slow intermitant . I drove to the Keele service station as that was the next stop thank god it wasnt lashing it down . When I pulled up I atuomatically turned off the engine tried to start it again and nothing BUT because my screen wipers were now in the on position they started to work . I phoned hubby and explained and he suggested disconnecting the battery killing the lot and just trying .Nothing no engine no nothing I opened the bonnet and it stunk like electrical 1hour later and the RAC turning up I had no starter motor left the RAC guy gave me a quick tug with the warning dont stall it on the way home . At home hubby removed the starter motor I wished I had of took a picture for you all my god what a mess I cant explain what it is but its sort of like a fan shape on the starter somehow I had managed to eat half the metal away ..today I picked up the new one costing £100 and all is back to normal well oce hubby fits it again I have no idea why this happened and the only thing I can think of is the ignition key stayed in the far position I certainly never heard anything and the van drove like a dream .just becareful that your ignition key returnes back to its normal position because i think that is the only way this could of happened . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
granddad Posted June 26, 2008 Share Posted June 26, 2008 hi michele if iwas u i would look at ignition as it happen on sweepers at work 3 times and 3 starter motor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panagah Posted June 26, 2008 Share Posted June 26, 2008 michele - 2008-06-26 7:33 PM At the weekend I did a trip to Chester to visit my sister who unfortunately was in the Walton Hospital Liverpool . Basically on the way home it started to rain I tried to put on the screen wipers but I had none . It made me doubt that I had hit the right side of the stick so there I was swopping and checking watching my indicators flashing . I couldnt get anything fast slow intermitant . I drove to the Keele service station as that was the next stop thank god it wasnt lashing it down . When I pulled up I atuomatically turned off the engine tried to start it again and nothing BUT because my screen wipers were now in the on position they started to work . I phoned hubby and explained and he suggested disconnecting the battery killing the lot and just trying .Nothing no engine no nothing I opened the bonnet and it stunk like electrical 1hour later and the RAC turning up I had no starter motor left the RAC guy gave me a quick tug with the warning dont stall it on the way home . At home hubby removed the starter motor I wished I had of took a picture for you all my god what a mess I cant explain what it is but its sort of like a fan shape on the starter somehow I had managed to eat half the metal away ..today I picked up the new one costing £100 and all is back to normal well oce hubby fits it again I have no idea why this happened and the only thing I can think of is the ignition key stayed in the far position I certainly never heard anything and the van drove like a dream .just becareful that your ignition key returnes back to its normal position because i think that is the only way this could of happened . You drove right past my house and you never popped in for a brew michelle. :-o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Grumpy Posted June 26, 2008 Share Posted June 26, 2008 Some years ago our old 2.5td fiat starter ceased working. The problem was a set of very dog eared reduction gears between the starter motor pinion and the fly wheel, a re-build sorted the problem but it cost no where near £100. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranger Posted June 26, 2008 Share Posted June 26, 2008 BRING BACK THE OLD ROTORY ACTION MANUAL COMMENCER ! ! ! THEY OFTEN BROKE A CARELESS THUMB, BUT NOT MUCH TROUBLE OTHERWISE. MY FIRST MOTORHOME HAD ONE, AUSTIN 3000cc STRAIGHT SIX. STILL GOING STRONG ON THE I.O.W. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michele Posted June 26, 2008 Author Share Posted June 26, 2008 I suppose you would call it the starter motor engaging gear that was all broken and twisted ... i really wished I had taken a piccy for you all to see the damage . I reckon you are right about watching the ignition the guy at the shop said he would change the barrel just incase this happened again . funny never heard anything didnt even have the music on . It snot like in your car if you start the car and then held on to the key you would get an awful noise ...nothing Zilch .. Well a leasson learned trust it to be out of warranty now ..such is life :-| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michele Posted July 27, 2008 Author Share Posted July 27, 2008 Just an update we had the starter motor rectified . Put it back on started straight away no problems . Went to a friends garage around a 20 mile drive no problems . My friend was changing the tyres and setting the tracking with one of them red eye things got in the van tried to start it and nothing not a thing again . My friend got underneath touched something and it started again he decided to play with it but said maybe to go back to the starter motor place again . I went back and I think the guy said he would strip it down again and do the solonoid ? I think anyway picked it up again and hubby just about to put it back again . It seems like something is loose ,connection between the ignition and the starter . Any suggestion if we get this when it is back on the motor ? I dont want to be stuck in france well anywhere being stuck, all cause we could of renewed something . Thanks everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Cole Posted July 27, 2008 Share Posted July 27, 2008 Hi Michele, While hubby is grovelling around under the van with the starter motor get him to check the condition of the earth strap that goes between the engine and chassis and that the connections each end are not corroded and are making a good contact. A poor connection here could be causing your problem, also check the swaged terminals on the starter motor cables these can also some times come loose. good luck hope you sort it out Regards geoff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Collings Posted July 27, 2008 Share Posted July 27, 2008 It sounds like the starter stayed engaged after the engine started. the engine then drove the starter many times faster than intended and wrecked it. Probably the ignition switch is falling to pieces internally ( the wipers are probably fed by it as well) and ocasionally supplying current to the starter after the key is released. A new ignition switch as previously mentioned is probably needed. Best of luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Collings Posted July 27, 2008 Share Posted July 27, 2008 It sounds like the starter stayed engaged after the engine started. the engine then drove the starter many times faster than intended and wrecked it. Probably the ignition switch is falling to pieces internally ( the wipers are probably fed by it as well) and ocasionally supplying current to the starter after the key is released. A new ignition switch as previously mentioned is probably needed. Best of luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Collings Posted July 27, 2008 Share Posted July 27, 2008 oops stuttering finger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michele Posted July 28, 2008 Author Share Posted July 28, 2008 Thanks guys have not had the time to do it as yet with the kids but I will ceratinly tell hubby and let you know if we have any more problems. Thanks alot everyone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onecal Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 Hi Michele, You will have to change the Ignition switch aswell as the starter motor + solonoid. The wiring from the switch needs to be checked for overloading .They may have fused together. The wires can be viewed under the ignition switch (yellow ,Red, Etc). Check and change the following:- 1)- Ignition switch, Replace 2)- Solonoid switch, Replace 3)- Wiring from switch, Replace/Repair loom 4)- Earth Wiring connections from Engine/Gearbox to chassis 5)- Fuse box connections, Repair/Replace This should give you back faith in your Motorhome. Have a nice Hol' in France,Keep us all informed. Regards, Brendan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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