Guest pelmetman Posted March 19, 2011 Share Posted March 19, 2011 Any thoughts? For my part he has had it coming for a long time >:-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletguy Posted March 20, 2011 Share Posted March 20, 2011 pelmetman - 2011-03-19 11:09 PM Any thoughts? I wouldn't hold your breath......you won't get many of those on here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightrider Posted March 20, 2011 Share Posted March 20, 2011 Why should we get involved? why not let them sort their selves out, America under Obama seem reluctant to get involved, or is it a question of oil again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebishbus Posted March 20, 2011 Share Posted March 20, 2011 Hi. I find this, 0h it's oil again comment a bit strange. The other day an oil expert, on the radio, said, that Americans had more oil reserves under their own land, than they will ever need for the foreseeable future, they are sitting on it untill they need it. 8-) Brian B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightrider Posted March 20, 2011 Share Posted March 20, 2011 Its similar to when maggie closed down all our coal fields and started buying cheap coal from elsewhere in the world, we are sitting on our billions of tons of coal until needed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JudgeMental Posted March 20, 2011 Share Posted March 20, 2011 thebishbus - 2011-03-20 8:38 AM Hi. I find this, 0h it's oil again comment a bit strange. The other day an oil expert, on the radio, said, that Americans had more oil reserves under their own land, than they will ever need for the foreseeable future, they are sitting on it untill they need it. 8-) Brian B Yes that is true they capped them of years ago and plunder the world for the rest *-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightrider Posted March 20, 2011 Share Posted March 20, 2011 How can Britain fight a war in Libya when the government are scrapping our armed forces? Do they propose to send in our boy scouts and girl guides? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightrider Posted March 20, 2011 Share Posted March 20, 2011 JudgeMental - 2011-03-20 10:15 AM thebishbus - 2011-03-20 8:38 AM Hi. I find this, 0h it's oil again comment a bit strange. The other day an oil expert, on the radio, said, that Americans had more oil reserves under their own land, than they will ever need for the foreseeable future, they are sitting on it untill they need it. 8-) Brian B Yes that is true they capped them of years ago and plunder the world for the rest *-) America has oodles of raw materials and has no need of plundering the rest of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordThornber Posted March 20, 2011 Share Posted March 20, 2011 Loss of life and all the other associated costs of unrest/war excepted, I'm not complaining about it. It's yet another good opportunity to go into the market and exploit the volatility the markets show without fail on these occasions. The markets hate uncertainty but investors like me love the yo yo effect, bring it on Gaddafi, bring it on. Martyn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JudgeMental Posted March 20, 2011 Share Posted March 20, 2011 knight of the road - 2011-03-20 10:23 AM JudgeMental - 2011-03-20 10:15 AM thebishbus - 2011-03-20 8:38 AM Hi. I find this, 0h it's oil again comment a bit strange. The other day an oil expert, on the radio, said, that Americans had more oil reserves under their own land, than they will ever need for the foreseeable future, they are sitting on it untill they need it. 8-) Brian B Yes that is true they capped them of years ago and plunder the world for the rest *-) America has oodles of raw materials and has no need of plundering the rest of the world. So what are they doing in the middle east?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightrider Posted March 20, 2011 Share Posted March 20, 2011 LordThornber - 2011-03-20 10:28 AM Loss of life and all the other associated costs of unrest/war excepted, I'm not complaining about it. It's yet another good opportunity to go into the market and exploit the volatility the markets show without fail on these occasions. The markets hate uncertainty but investors like me love the yo yo effect, bring it on Gaddafi, bring it on. Martyn Martyn Sorry but I dont like your way of thinking it just proves to me that money men and investers are only interested in the bottom line and have no scruples or concience and dont give a toss for the pain and suffering to the people directly concerned, you have gone down in my esteem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightrider Posted March 20, 2011 Share Posted March 20, 2011 JudgeMental - 2011-03-20 11:07 AM knight of the road - 2011-03-20 10:23 AM JudgeMental - 2011-03-20 10:15 AM thebishbus - 2011-03-20 8:38 AM Hi. I find this, 0h it's oil again comment a bit strange. The other day an oil expert, on the radio, said, that Americans had more oil reserves under their own land, than they will ever need for the foreseeable future, they are sitting on it untill they need it. 8-) Brian B Yes that is true they capped them of years ago and plunder the world for the rest *-) America has oodles of raw materials and has no need of plundering the rest of the world. So what are they doing in the middle east?? Dont ask me, ask them, could it be greed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malc d Posted March 20, 2011 Share Posted March 20, 2011 knight of the road - 2011-03-20 10:21 AM How can Britain fight a war in Libya when the government are scrapping our armed forces? Do they propose to send in our boy scouts and girl guides? No Malc. They're looking for people who 'shoot from the hip' -' kill or be killed' and 'take no prisoners' Do you know anyone like that ? ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordThornber Posted March 20, 2011 Share Posted March 20, 2011 knight of the road - 2011-03-20 11:11 AM Sorry but I dont like your way of thinking it just proves to me that money men and investers are only interested in the bottom line and have no scruples or concience and dont give a toss for the pain and suffering to the people directly concerned, you have gone down in my esteem. As you wish Malc. I'm a Capitalist, not a Socialist. I much prefer to earn my keep using my head rather than my hands. As I said though... Loss of life and all the other associated costs of unrest/war excepted. Martyn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted March 20, 2011 Share Posted March 20, 2011 LordThornber - 2011-03-20 12:26 PM As you wish Malc. I'm a Capitalist, not a Socialist. I much prefer to earn my keep using my head rather than my hands. As I said though... Loss of life and all the other associated costs of unrest/war excepted. Martyn I thought you were a socialist worker Martyn :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordThornber Posted March 20, 2011 Share Posted March 20, 2011 pelmetman - 2011-03-20 12:48 PM I thought you were a socialist worker Martyn :D Haha, like it Dave, I guess I still "sell my labour" as some Communist twerp will have spouted once no doubt. But my financial leanings are deffo from the right wing :D Martyn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Momma Posted March 20, 2011 Share Posted March 20, 2011 What right do we have to go in and bomb Libya ? As every Current and former serviceman and woman will know, you sign the Oath to allegiance to the Monarch of this country and to defend our Realm. This is in no way in the defence of the Realm. Okay, so we are part of NATO, that means we are signed up to join up with other NATO forces to protect any other NATO member under attack from an enemy. Libya has not attacked any other NATO member. The humanitarian case ? We do not get involved with other 'Civil Wars or Uprisings' in the World, Russia, Somalia, Tunisia, Eygpt. Only it appears those that the Government select. Economic - Oil assets, very likely. But it is not our Oil. How can we justify in these hard economic times in Britain another costly military campaign. the Government has stated that they cannot afford to maintain the MOD, not just back room staff and civil servants but Troops and Equipment. The Government have got this one very, very wrong in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightrider Posted March 20, 2011 Share Posted March 20, 2011 malc d - 2011-03-20 12:23 PM knight of the road - 2011-03-20 10:21 AM How can Britain fight a war in Libya when the government are scrapping our armed forces? Do they propose to send in our boy scouts and girl guides? No Malc. They're looking for people who 'shoot from the hip' -' kill or be killed' and 'take no prisoners' Do you know anyone like that ? It could be said that I shoot from the hip and take no prisoners, but then again I am not an invester, I earn my crust from my own physical labour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightrider Posted March 20, 2011 Share Posted March 20, 2011 LordThornber - 2011-03-20 12:26 PM knight of the road - 2011-03-20 11:11 AM Sorry but I dont like your way of thinking it just proves to me that money men and investers are only interested in the bottom line and have no scruples or concience and dont give a toss for the pain and suffering to the people directly concerned, you have gone down in my esteem. As you wish Malc. I'm a Capitalist, not a Socialist. I much prefer to earn my keep using my head rather than my hands. As I said though... Loss of life and all the other associated costs of unrest/war excepted. Martyn But it is an inescapeable fact that someone gets hurt in order for your investments to pay off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malc d Posted March 20, 2011 Share Posted March 20, 2011 knight of the road - 2011-03-20 1:48 PM malc d - 2011-03-20 12:23 PM knight of the road - 2011-03-20 10:21 AM How can Britain fight a war in Libya when the government are scrapping our armed forces? Do they propose to send in our boy scouts and girl guides? No Malc. They're looking for people who 'shoot from the hip' -' kill or be killed' and 'take no prisoners' Do you know anyone like that ? It could be said that I shoot from the hip and take no prisoners, but then again I am not an invester, I earn my crust from my own physical labour. They're not looking for investers. Warriors are required. I just thought that as you often tell us that you 'shoot from the hip' 'take no prisoners ' etc, ( whatever that means) you might like to go instead of sending the boy scouts and girl guides. ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antony1969 Posted March 20, 2011 Share Posted March 20, 2011 Should of bombed Gaddafi when he was supplying the scummy IRA with weapons to murder our lads in Northern Ireland and innocent Brits and maybe sent a crack SAS team in to slit his throat after his terrorists blew up the Lockerbie Plane and what about Yvonne Fletcher ? , but no what do we , Gordon bleedin Brown releases a poor cancer stricken scumbag to see out his last few days at home and he's still walking the earth now . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Momma Posted March 20, 2011 Share Posted March 20, 2011 antony1969 - 2011-03-20 2:32 PM Should of bombed Gaddafi when he was supplying the scummy IRA with weapons to murder our lads in Northern Ireland and innocent Brits and maybe sent a crack SAS team in to slit his throat after his terrorists blew up the Lockerbie Plane and what about Yvonne Fletcher ? , but no what do we , Gordon bleedin Brown releases a poor cancer stricken scumbag to see out his last few days at home and he's still walking the earth now . And we should have taken the action at the appropriate time when it would have been seen to be justifiable. Cannot use those historical events as some sort of excuse to go in now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted March 20, 2011 Share Posted March 20, 2011 Big Momma - 2011-03-20 2:37 PM And we should have taken the action at the appropriate time when it would have been seen to be justifiable. Cannot use those historical events as some sort of excuse to go in now. Perhaps we should of done. I wont shed any tears if the murdering bar steward gets killed. As for our involvement I expect it will be quite limited due to lack of assets available for deployment :D Which in some ways will be a good thing as it means our European allies will pick up most of the tab! First time I've seen a Sub being used since the Falklands though :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordThornber Posted March 20, 2011 Share Posted March 20, 2011 With respect Malc, the unrest comes first, the volatile trading conditions come second. Not the other way around. I, (and thousands of others) are merely taking advantage of the situation. History has taught me to take full financial advantage of these monumental events. 9/11, 7/7, The Credit Crunch (the best of the lot), Tunisia, Bahrain, Japan, Libya to name just a few. There'll be plenty of folk on here who had the wisdom to throw money, (at their own risk I might add), when the markets were swinging wildly. I'm just honest enough to admit to it. For those who think it distasteful to profit or gain out of such events, that's fine, I respect your view - but don't share it. I pay my Capital Gains Tax just like the next person, there's no cash in hand stuff of course, GB PLC benefits from my amateur dealings too. Martyn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antony1969 Posted March 20, 2011 Share Posted March 20, 2011 Its reality Martyn , you are not responsible for said events and If you are fortunate enough to have money to invest then I say good luck to ya , doesnt mean that you have any less feelings for those in Japan etc . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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