BGD Posted November 11, 2012 Share Posted November 11, 2012 I bought and fitted a Thule additional caravan door lock recently whilst we were up in France, and I have to say that I am VERY impressed with it. It's particularly good feature is that, unlike all the other Fiamma etc versions, you can operate this one from the inside of the Motorhome as well as outside. So at night it's both extra door security and a highly visual deterrent to attempts at break-in. http://www.narbonneaccessoires.fr/serrure-de-porte-thule.html In my opinion, for 79 euros, a very good security product investment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vindiboy Posted November 11, 2012 Share Posted November 11, 2012 I like the look of that but I could not fit it to my vans door as there would not be enough room behind the door because the fridge abuts the door and would not allow the back plate with handle to fit, a good product though,Thanks for the info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sshortcircuit Posted November 11, 2012 Share Posted November 11, 2012 What are the size of the internal part, please? By the way, what's this wet stuff here in Beni? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brambles Posted November 11, 2012 Share Posted November 11, 2012 http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Milenco-Caravan-Motorhome-Security-Door-Lock-Locks-inside-and-outside-/170703399353?_trksid=p2047675.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222002%26algo%3DSIC.FIT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D74%26meid%3D3388191780446985857%26pid%3D100005%26prg%3D1048%26rk%3D2%26sd%3D310458372901%26 cannot be bothered shortening link --- but cheapest I can find and pic shows dimsions inside. Milenco market the same product. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGD Posted November 11, 2012 Author Share Posted November 11, 2012 sshortcircuit - 2012-11-11 5:31 PM What are the size of the internal part, please? By the way, what's this wet stuff here in Beni? I can't tell you at the moment, as the sky is falling in...............we are having a damn monsoon here this afternoon....and I'm not gonna drown myself by venturing out of the villa to the MH in this! But you should be able to find out by Googling..... Here's the Thule sales blurb on the lock:- http://www.thule.com/en/GB/Products/RV-Accessories/SecurityProducts/Thule-Inside_-_out-Lock# Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sshortcircuit Posted November 11, 2012 Share Posted November 11, 2012 Thanks, but could not find sizes on site you linked to. Will keep on looking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGD Posted November 11, 2012 Author Share Posted November 11, 2012 sshortcircuit - 2012-11-11 5:50 PM Thanks, but could not find sizes on site you linked to. Will keep on looking. The sizes are in the link that Brambles has put up for you. (I hadn't realised that this lock was also marketed/badged my Milenco as well as Thule/Omnistor, but it is indeed the same product). The internal, handle/plate part is 94mm wide, by 80mm high. But the exterior lock plate, and corresponding internal handle plate, need to be set back a little from the edge of the door of course, so they avoid the exterior door frame edging and thus fit flush to the exterior and interior walls of the MH. So if measuring your MH to see if it'd fit, the 94mm of necessary internal width needs to start at the point where your door external frame edging stops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sshortcircuit Posted November 11, 2012 Share Posted November 11, 2012 Thanks again. For some reason I missed Brambles post. Might struggle to find enough room but will have a look once I get home from this terrible place :-D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vindiboy Posted November 11, 2012 Share Posted November 11, 2012 Closer inspection of this lock shows it is not key lockable from inside so is not in fact a dead lock,I know no one claimed it was but I would only fit one that is key lockable inside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sshortcircuit Posted November 11, 2012 Share Posted November 11, 2012 why would you need a key on the inside? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brambles Posted November 11, 2012 Share Posted November 11, 2012 Why do I bother posting links -- 94 x 80 high. See second photo on ebay listing - click on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brambles Posted November 11, 2012 Share Posted November 11, 2012 sshortcircuit - 2012-11-11 8:06 PM why would you need a key on the inside? You would not as it has a knob to lock/unlock. Answer to your question though is convemience and safety. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vindiboy Posted November 11, 2012 Share Posted November 11, 2012 sshortcircuit - 2012-11-11 8:06 PMwhy would you need a key on the inside? My reason for this is as follows. A small child is put through the roof light that you have left open, his / her job is to open the Habitation door to let the Adult in to rob the van, if the door is key locked the kid cannot open it, belt and braces I suppose, but that is the reason my doors are ALL key locked, I do leave a key in one of the locks whilst sleeping in the van [ Fully Alarmed too.] I have fitted Heosafe locks to the Cab Doors.http://www.outdoorbits.com/heosafe-door-locks-p-82.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vindiboy Posted November 11, 2012 Share Posted November 11, 2012 http://www.outdoorbits.com/heosafe-door-locks-p-82.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sshortcircuit Posted November 11, 2012 Share Posted November 11, 2012 Brambles - 2012-11-11 9:05 PM Why do I bother posting links -- 94 x 80 high. See second photo on ebay listing - click on it. What did I miss? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sshortcircuit Posted November 11, 2012 Share Posted November 11, 2012 vindiboy - 2012-11-11 9:50 PM sshortcircuit - 2012-11-11 8:06 PMwhy would you need a key on the inside? My reason for this is as follows. A small child is put through the roof light that you have left open, his / her job is to open the Habitation door to let the Adult in to rob the van, if the door is key locked the kid cannot open it, belt and braces I suppose, but that is the reason my doors are ALL key locked, I do leave a key in one of the locks whilst sleeping in the van [ Fully Alarmed too.] I have fitted Heosafe locks to the Cab Doors.htdamagesww.outdoorbits.com/heosafe-door-locks-p-82.html Hmmm well I suppose, but the child can just open a window and adult gets in. When I look at my MH it is so easy to get into even with all locks so wonder if worth the hassle of damage when locks are fitted. Hope I do not raise your anxiety level Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brambles Posted November 11, 2012 Share Posted November 11, 2012 sshortcircuit - 2012-11-11 10:10 PM Brambles - 2012-11-11 9:05 PM Why do I bother posting links -- 94 x 80 high. See second photo on ebay listing - click on it. What did I miss? Sorry! think I got out of sync. edit - I apologise for what appears to be my abrupt rudeness in earlier post, and not exactly sure why I posted " why do I bother...." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGD Posted November 12, 2012 Author Share Posted November 12, 2012 vindiboy - 2012-11-11 11:03 PM http://www.outdoorbits.com/heosafe-door-locks-p-82.html But those are for cab doors, not the caravan door. They are good though....In fact I have just fitted those, the key-lockable versions, to the insides of the two cab doors (I got a great result on buying them from an ebayer who'd bought but never fitted them: 40 quid!). I've also fitted two days ago, additional, obvious, deadlocks to the outside of both the cab doors too....like these: http://www.van-locked.co.uk/Shop/Vans/Fiat-Ducato-~-1996TOSept06/DeadLock.html I've also just fitted a Fiamma locking arm to the frame beside caravan door, which folds across the original caravan lock so protecting it; and also fitted the additional Fiamma locking piece actually in the middle of the caravan door which the arm locks into. Oh, and also a heavy steelplate backed hoop, bolted through the caravan door, through which we thread a steel bar on the inside face at night. Oh, and Milenco window alarms on all internal caravan windows, which can be obviously seen from the outside. Oh, and a dog inside the van, who is a very good alarm system, too. The above security improvements may seem over the top if you always stay on big, organised sites. We wild camp almost all the time we are away in the van, which is a lot.....maybe 60 to 80 nights a year. Of course, there is no absolute way to prevent MH, burglaries......my intention is to spend a couple of hundred quid to make ours obviously far more highly secure than most, in the hope that the scum sizing ours up will not bother, or will "do" someone else as an easier target. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike B. Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 vindiboy - 2012-11-11 9:50 PM sshortcircuit - 2012-11-11 8:06 PMwhy would you need a key on the inside? My reason for this is as follows. A small child is put through the roof light that you have left open, his / her job is to open the Habitation door to let the Adult in to rob the van, if the door is key locked the kid cannot open it, belt and braces I suppose, but that is the reason my doors are ALL key locked, I do leave a key in one of the locks whilst sleeping in the van [ Fully Alarmed too.] I have fitted Heosafe locks to the Cab Doors.http://www.outdoorbits.com/heosafe-door-locks-p-82.html Wouldn't it be easier for said kid (having climbed on the roof to enter via the roof light) to just open the cab door? :'( Edit_ah just seen you have that covered -missed that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGD Posted November 12, 2012 Author Share Posted November 12, 2012 vindiboy - 2012-11-11 10:50 PM sshortcircuit - 2012-11-11 8:06 PMwhy would you need a key on the inside? My reason for this is as follows. A small child is put through the roof light that you have left open, his / her job is to open the Habitation door to let the Adult in to rob the van, if the door is key locked the kid cannot open it, belt and braces I suppose, but that is the reason my doors are ALL key locked, I do leave a key in one of the locks whilst sleeping in the van [ Fully Alarmed too.] I have fitted Heosafe locks to the Cab Doors.http://www.outdoorbits.com/heosafe-door-locks-p-82.html Ummmm.......maybe just close rooflights when away from the van? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vindiboy Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 HMM, several comments needed here, Firstly ,yes the Heosafe locks are for the cab doors and are great, yes, a child could open a window to allow an adult in ,but one hopes someone might see an Adult climbing in the window, I think the locks you posted a link to are very good but I could not fit on to my van because of the fridge being too close to the entrance door. The other poster spoke about stress levels, well I don't do stress, I Wild Camp extensively, I take all the precautions I can to secure my van and every thing is well Insured so what else can one do, if we were to worry to much about being broken into we would never camp in the first place would we , so I just make it as difficult as I can for my van to be entered, if damage is done by some Cretin breaking in, that is covered by Insurance too ,so fingers crossed hey ho . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike B. Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 I've also found my dogs jaws round said cretin's scrotal regions is not very welcome either-and it saves me walking him! Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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